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Post by Vinny on Dec 25, 2022 17:26:18 GMT
The evidence is growing that this experimental philosophy of yours doesn't work.
If people want to be trans, fine, but do not give them that status BEFORE surgery has been carried out, yeah ?
Difficult to understand ?
Sadly it looks that way but prove me wrong.
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Post by research0it on Dec 25, 2022 17:34:46 GMT
Hi vinny
What evidence? All the countries that have this type of legislation have not recorded increases in sexual violence against women. On the other hand, they've recorded a significant decrease in violence and abuse of transgender people
Why should we force someone to have surgery? That in itself is a big contribution to the very high suicide rates of transgender people.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 25, 2022 17:49:52 GMT
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Post by Vinny on Dec 25, 2022 18:07:52 GMT
Hi vinny What evidence? All the countries that have this type of legislation have not recorded increases in sexual violence against women. On the other hand, they've recorded a significant decrease in violence and abuse of transgender people Why should we force someone to have surgery? That in itself is a big contribution to the very high suicide rates of transgender people. Men have penises, women have vaginas. Understand ? If a man wants to be a woman, he needs to undergo surgery if he wishes to become a she. It's not a simple case of changing a pronoun. It takes surgery called "vaginoplasty". If a woman wants to be a man, she needs to undergo surgery to create a replica penis, the surgery is called "phalloplasty". Once surgery has been carried out, then paperwork can be provided. Thing is, procedure is irreversible. And what contributes to the suicide rate of transgender people is lefties messing with the minds of very young people, and making cases of body dysmorphia far far worse. It's people like the SNP who cause the high suicide rates of transgender people and you are supporting a policy that will make matters worse.
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Post by research0it on Dec 25, 2022 18:21:36 GMT
Hi vinny
Only trouble is there is little or no evidence that this legislation has had bad outcomes.
In terms of what is required to be transgender, I leave it to those that feel that they are, to determine it.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 25, 2022 18:53:06 GMT
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 25, 2022 19:04:19 GMT
You all should realise that the photo shopped photos are incredibly bigoted and are causing offence to teansgender people? I know this as I know at least 2 transgender people who are so offended. No you don't. And it's bad law that's being ridiculed, not genuine trans people. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 25, 2022 19:05:06 GMT
Hi vinny Only trouble is there is little or no evidence that this legislation has had bad outcomes. In terms of what is required to be transgender, I leave it to those that feel that they are, to determine it. And where has this exact legislation been enacted?
Please provide evidence.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 25, 2022 19:22:38 GMT
Exactly, and bad legislation not only enables such people it also makes matters worse for those who genuinely want to get reassignment surgery. It's not real trans people we're attacking, it's shit far legislation and the criminal scum enabled by it. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Dec 25, 2022 21:24:36 GMT
My main concern around anything to do with this bill is the impacts it will have on women and I do think people who are wanting to transition should be given a clean bill of mental health. The reasons for this are I hope obvious, 1) I don't think the rights of women should be trampled over by any group of men, trans or otherwise & I think there is a conversation that needs to be had here which is currently being silenced & that's never a good idea when decision making. 2) When you undergo gender reassignment surgery, it's not reversible and so it's essential to make sure the person is making the choice of sound mind and body. Was it not the catch 22 book that was about, you could only pilot a plane if you were medically fit to fly, and not insane, but you would have to be insane to fly a plane and get shot at and likely killed, therefore no one was eligible to fly the planes. Yes, and so the first condition would suffice - lol. |
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Post by research0it on Dec 25, 2022 21:43:30 GMT
That gallery is a product of BEFORE this legislation. Sadly men will always abuse women. I am not saying that such men don't exist or abuses of transgender laws don't happen. I am just saying that this legislation has not had any effect on the incidence of abuse, where it has already occurred
Can you all get this?
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Post by Vinny on Dec 25, 2022 22:03:28 GMT
You're missing the point.
This legislation is shit and will only make matters worse.
Get that into your head.
You're not defending trans people, you're defending shit legislation.
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Post by Tinculin on Dec 25, 2022 22:16:32 GMT
If this guy thinks he's helping trans peoples cause by making this kind of post, he couldn't be further from the truth. It's good that women are speaking out about how ludicrous his remarks are. He's a prime example of why people need access to mental health support. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 25, 2022 22:32:28 GMT
That gallery is a product of BEFORE this legislation. Sadly men will always abuse women. I am not saying that such men don't exist or abuses of transgender laws don't happen. I am just saying that this legislation has not had any effect on the incidence of abuse, where it has already occurred Can you all get this? Can you get that you are a danger to women? The easier make it for these people who want to abuse women to get access to vulnerable women the more likely attacks are going to happen. |
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Post by research0it on Dec 25, 2022 23:42:35 GMT
Hi vinny
It's you that isn't getting it.
The question is not whether men are dangers to women (they are) or that some use transgender issues to be a danger (they do)
It's whether this legislation will INCREASE the incidence of it. Evidence from other countries clearly show that it doesn't
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