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Post by Vinny on Jan 27, 2023 9:19:21 GMT
If all this bollocks is what the SNP have to offer, God help us were the SNP ever to achieve their goal of a happy clappy weirdo club in the EU.
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2023 9:24:49 GMT
If all this bollocks is what the SNP have to offer, God help us were the SNP ever to achieve their goal of a happy clappy weirdo club in the EU. i cant wait to rejoin the EU vinny. Looks like( latest polls have labour on 50 % now) the process could begin in something like 16 months.
The uk is finished vinny. If it doest break apart , we can both happily become citizens of the european union again , with greater englandshire the north west region of the european state.
Then i can get to tell you you arent british , but european , while telling you off for being a seperatist.  |
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Post by thomas on Jan 27, 2023 9:34:18 GMT
To be fair, it's not just the SNP who are all over the place on this issue - Labour are a complete shambles as well. Keir Starmer, April 2022: "Transwomen are women. And that's not just my view, that's actually the law." and yet.. Yvette Cooper Jan 2023: “This dangerous rapist should not be in a women’s prison” I must admit I'm getting confused - are these people women or not? dont forget what lisa nandy was saying last week...
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Post by research0it on Jan 27, 2023 9:44:13 GMT
Hi pacifico I believe that, in this particular case, the prison service had not completed the standard risk assessment which would determine the person's permanent prison. While it was carried out the person was held isolated in a female prison. The risk assessment concluded that the permanent prison was to be a male prison. All standard procedure under the 2004 uk transgender act and the 2010 equalities act. The procedure and risk assessment was nothing to do with the new act which, as you know, has not been implemented. That issue is getting confused with the issue of prisoner risk assessments and how robust they are. SPS policy is that you go to the prison in line with the gender you identify with. If you are considered a risk to other inmates you are subject to restrictions inside that institution. 'A male-to-female person in custody living permanently as a woman without genital surgery should be allocated to a female establishment.'By Sturgeon (and other politicians) saying that this 'woman' should be kept in a male prison they are admitting that transwomen are not real women. That being the case what is the rational for allowing anyone to self declare without a medical intervention - what is the Legislation trying to achieve?. All it will do is make it easier for men intent on harming women to enter womens safe spaces - the SPS has already said that GRC's are taken into account when determining where an inmate is sent. If this proposed Law were in place Bryson would already have GRC. Hi pacifico Is that bit in bold part of legislation? Or did someone just voice an opinion What the legislation is trying to achieve is a better balance of rights and obligations for all, and there is considerable opinion that even the uk 2004 act still discriminates against transgender people. You and many don't agree, but the Scottish legislation went through a democratic process lasting 6 years, with 2 rounds of public consultation. All that noted, one good thing about this forum, is that it forces you to look into things. I asked the following question Procedure for risk assessment and categorisation of prisoners in the UK. Try it. Read many documents, including the one about advice to families of prisoners. Bear in mind that every bad case is related to someone in the criminal justice system. There is a risk assessment at every stage First of all for the accused, which will decide if they get bail and if so, how much it will be Then when found guilty and awaiting sentence. The rape case was in this category Then once sentenced Then during the prison sentence - parole board Then on release - rehabilitation procedure. So why does the transgender legislation need extra provision, when there is a full system of risk assessments anyway? To do so would be to treat transgender people as different to everyone else. Is that what you want? Having looked into it to that extent, I believe 3 issues are being intertwined. Male violence, criminal justice risk assessments and transgender issues. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 27, 2023 9:53:34 GMT
If all this bollocks is what the SNP have to offer, God help us were the SNP ever to achieve their goal of a happy clappy weirdo club in the EU. i cant wait to rejoin the EU vinny. Looks like( latest polls have labour on 50 % now) the process could begin in something like 16 months.
The uk is finished vinny. If it doest break apart , we can both happily become citizens of the european union again , with greater englandshire the north west region of the european state.
Then i can get to tell you you arent british , but european , while telling you off for being a seperatist. You'll be waiting forever. Btw, what on earth do you actually like about the EU ? It's fucking shit. |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 27, 2023 9:53:38 GMT
It’s 100% a political decision and your last comment illustrates just how far the leftie spaceship is away from planet earth. Words fail me.....She now needs to resign..........Politicians yet again, proving they have Zero common sense and are so out of touch with the General Public......Too late Krankie, the damage is done.
The Scotish mayor has been forced to do a u-turn
Transgender double rapist Isla Bryson will be transferred out of women's prison, Nicola Sturgeon tells Scottish Parliament
Ms Sturgeon said she believes it is not possible to have a rapist in a women's jail
But she refused 4 times to say whether Isla Bryson is still in Cornton Vale prison
Ah Big Krankie Jonksy. Englishmen at their most stupid. I cannot find another description for it. He now rants the FM. Directs the Court. Tells them to find a person guilty. Then tells them what prison they should go to and for how long. After making her mind up if it is a female or male. I wonder if big Krankie Jonksy could tell me. Did this happens after her shift building ferries, or before her shift Policing Scotland. Or was in between arranging ferry contracts, as she jumped between that and being the Procurator Fiscal. Or maybe it was before she met the unelected lying wanker Sunak at Bute House. Matey you rant so much utter Havering slastering drivel you are becoming a bigger comic than OM15 on Scottish matters. By the way when is the unelected wanker in bankrupt England , Allowing the rapist in the Met. What was it 26 rapes by one of bankrupt England finest, lose on the ex chancellor and his £5 million HMRC discretion . Or the corruption on Bojoke and the appointment of a BBC chairman amongst others. Seeking a loan Making that clown, then a Prime Minister a bigger security risk than Liam Fox when he took his friend to a defence meeting Surely Sunak the unelected wanker should be sacking the Met. Telling them what jails they should go to. And you still have not told me. What exactly is your problem with the GRR bill or what jack in the box decision was to block it FFS. Jack in the box does not have a fecking clue, anymore than you do. . I take it you now know who he is. Apart from being wasted space and wasted money. The Scottish Parliament are still waiting for it. To allow lawyer to take it to court. As Jonksy swallows the fanny and red meat tossed at him, hook line and sinker. To divert from the Westminster wankers problems. Having not one jot what he is talking about. I have heard it all now. Sunak tells people what prison they go to. That matey in a nutshell is the shite you and other stupid Englishmen are ranting. Have you ever tried taking up politics. www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/liam-fox-admits-he-met-friend-274474 |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 27, 2023 10:31:56 GMT
It’s the leftie gift to rapists that keeps on giving . Sanctuary from other males, constant source of female company , potential opportunity to predate …making many vulnerable in a cause to protect the few self perceived victims . Hi Bentley No, it's not a leftie thing, it's the current system Under the 2004 uk act, if you want to be moved to another sex prison as a transgender, then you must pass a risk assessment test. It’s leftie ideology . Don’t be obtuse. |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 27, 2023 10:36:26 GMT
Hi Bentley No, it's not a leftie thing, it's the current system Under the 2004 uk act, if you want to be moved to another sex prison as a transgender, then you must pass a risk assessment test. It’s leftie ideology . Don’t be obtuse. What is leftie ideology. Is that the opposite of righty fascist ideology. Like one police officer raping 26 woman and more on the horizon. Or leaders misplacing £5 million. Or jobs for the boys. That even made D.ross only look like a tosspot and a ametuer light weight. Which he is. Do try and answer without lying, like denying you said it. Or moving the goalposts, you know righty ideology. Very obtuse |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 27, 2023 10:40:51 GMT
Male rapists have no place in a female prison.
That said, if the law were changed and female prisoners were allowed to perform the surgery, with a rusty meat cleaver....
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Post by Bentley on Jan 27, 2023 10:42:03 GMT
It’s leftie ideology . Don’t be obtuse. What is leftie ideology. Is that the opposite of righty fascist ideology. Like one police officer raping 26 woman and more on the horizon. Or leaders misplacing £5 million. Or jobs for the boys. That even made D.ross only look like a tosspot and a ametuer light weight. Which he is. Do try and answer without lying, like denying you said it. Or moving the goalposts, you know righty ideology. Very obtuse Fucking hell. Father Jack’s back again 🤦♂️ |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 27, 2023 11:03:41 GMT
What is leftie ideology. Is that the opposite of righty fascist ideology. Like one police officer raping 26 woman and more on the horizon. Or leaders misplacing £5 million. Or jobs for the boys. That even made D.ross only look like a tosspot and a ametuer light weight. Which he is. Do try and answer without lying, like denying you said it. Or moving the goalposts, you know righty ideology. Very obtuse Fucking hell. Father Jack’s back again 🤦♂️ So you are not going to answer. Just rant drivel. Well at least this time you did not lie though your teeth and denied what you said. That has still to come as you start anotgher load of drivel going around in circles. You know fascist righty ideology |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 27, 2023 11:07:53 GMT
Fucking hell. Father Jack’s back again 🤦♂️ So you are not going to answer. Just rant drivel. Well at least this time you did not lie though your teeth, or moved the goal posts. Denying what you said. That has still to come. As you start another load of drivel going around in circles. making a prat of yourself. You know English fascist righty ideology |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 27, 2023 11:08:36 GMT
Fucking hell. Father Jack’s back again 🤦♂️ So you are not going to answer. Just rant drivel. Well at least this time you did not lie though your teeth and denied what you said. That has still to come as you start anotgher load of drivel going around in circles. You know fascist righty ideology Attachments:
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Post by jaydee on Jan 27, 2023 11:11:18 GMT
So you are not going to answer. Just rant drivel. Well at least this time you did not lie though your teeth and denied what you said. That has still to come as you start anotgher load of drivel going around in circles. You know fascist righty ideology And there it is. English fascist righty ideology. You know there is a clown on here who used to answer on the old forum every questioning he could not answer with a photo of Rab C Nesbit. One of the reason it closed down. |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 27, 2023 11:12:17 GMT
And there it is. The answer from English fascist righty ideology. You know there is a clown on here who used to answer on the old forum every questioning he could not answer with a photo of Rab C Nesbit. One of the reason it closed down. Heard it all before. And you are not going to give up |
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