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Post by research0it on Dec 24, 2022 8:31:37 GMT
I wonder if all the writers who are hostile to the scottish government's legislation on transgender issues, have actually researched the issue?
Such as what has been the outcomes in countries who passed legislation such as this years ago? Or what is the suicide rates among young transgender people? Or the relative levels of violence between male prisoners pretending to be transgender, in order to access female prisons, as opposed to violence against transgender people in male prisons? Or the incidence of transgender people, later on in life, regretting the decision?
Finally I wonder how the gay community would feel about having to obtain certification from medically qualified people that they are, indeed gay, before their status is legal?
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Post by sheepy on Dec 24, 2022 9:44:58 GMT
Well we know new labour are planning much the same legislation, which backs up what I was saying, nobody gives a flying one what you actually vote for, you get what they vote for.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 24, 2022 9:46:10 GMT
This trans/gender reform bill introduced by the SNP will quite rightly be blocked by the government who will introduce a section 35* order which will stop it gaining Royal Assent. This SNP gender reform bill is insane. Who thought it would be a good idea to allow children, and 16 year olds are children, to decide they want to change sex? This is mind boggling in the extreme. And it's a real problem for the increasingly unpopular SNP. According to YouGov, if people in Scotland were given a vote on this, two thirds would say no. *A section 35 order is intended to prevent laws passed by the Scottish Parliament having "an adverse effect on the operation of the law as it applies to reserved matters". Yes, it's looking like Westminster will block the toy parliament on this one.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 24, 2022 10:12:08 GMT
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Post by jaydee on Dec 24, 2022 10:18:19 GMT
Starmer yet another one who CANNOT define a woman. 'WILL change law to allow trans people to self declare their gender in line with Scotland': Labour leader set to 'update Gender Recognition Act if elected' amid a 50/50 split within his own party Labour MPs are said to be split on whether to back Scotland's new gender rules A Holyrood bill allows trans people to self-identify without a medical diagnosis Sir Keir Starmer last night refused to say how far he would go on trans rights www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11570689/Labour-war-Scotlands-new-law-changing-gender.htmlAh Johnsky Clarkson. The man with the working brain cell. Tell me something what has Starmer to do with Scotland.. Allow me a copy and paste..Its a Englsih party wiped out in Scotland Oh you mean like all those paedophiles in Rochdale and Yorkshire. Good luck. So tell me how is it going to attract paeophiles. Do you actually understand the bill in England. Far less Scotland. England The general equality duty that is set out in the Equality Act 2010 requires public authorities, in the exercise of their functions, to have due regard to the need to:eliminate unlawful discrimination, harassment and victimisation and other conduct prohibited by the act advance equality of opportunity between people who share a protected characteristic and those who do not foster good relations between people who share a protected characteristic and those who do not.
What is it with absolute stupid Englishmen who rant utter garbage on matters they clearly do not have one clue about. The same ones all the time. OM15, Pacifico Borchy, Buccaneer. It is already in England since 2004. I forgot the one line wonder TSM www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-gender-recognition-disclosure-of-information-england-order-2022-equality-impact-assessment/the-gender-recognition-disclosure-of-information-england-order-2022-equality-impact-assewww.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/7/contents
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Post by research0it on Dec 24, 2022 10:20:55 GMT
This trans/gender reform bill introduced by the SNP will quite rightly be blocked by the government who will introduce a section 35* order which will stop it gaining Royal Assent. This SNP gender reform bill is insane. Who thought it would be a good idea to allow children, and 16 year olds are children, to decide they want to change sex? This is mind boggling in the extreme. And it's a real problem for the increasingly unpopular SNP. According to YouGov, if people in Scotland were given a vote on this, two thirds would say no. *A section 35 order is intended to prevent laws passed by the Scottish Parliament having "an adverse effect on the operation of the law as it applies to reserved matters". Yes, it's looking like Westminster will block the toy parliament on this one.
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Post by research0it on Dec 24, 2022 10:22:10 GMT
I see, squeezed middle that you totally ignored my post, researched nothing, and just repeated your bigotry
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 24, 2022 10:26:48 GMT
And who did you used to be, oh sock puppet?
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Post by jaydee on Dec 24, 2022 10:42:38 GMT
This trans/gender reform bill introduced by the SNP will quite rightly be blocked by the government who will introduce a section 35* order which will stop it gaining Royal Assent. This SNP gender reform bill is insane. Who thought it would be a good idea to allow children, and 16 year olds are children, to decide they want to change sex? This is mind boggling in the extreme. And it's a real problem for the increasingly unpopular SNP. According to YouGov, if people in Scotland were given a vote on this, two thirds would say no. *A section 35 order is intended to prevent laws passed by the Scottish Parliament having "an adverse effect on the operation of the law as it applies to reserved matters". Yes, it's looking like Westminster will block the toy parliament on this one. Ah Nigel the one line wonder. Unlike you 16 year old are not children in Scotland. . And guess what it was not the SNP gender bill. It was voted in by all party's in the Scottish Parliament. Tory's, Labour, Lib Dems Greens etc.. That means it was not the SNP who passed it. And who gives a crap what you think. You do not even know your right from your left. Look forward to millions of your money being spent in court. Again. From a fascist UK government who has a PM elected by nobody. A Clown who goes by the grandiose title of Secretary of State for Scotland, who nobody knows. And voted in by no body in Scotland. His office which does nothing cost around a £billion a year to run. His job supposed to be in the best interest of Scotland. As he is told to delay his access to the HoL as they are running out of Scottish MPs. Knowing full well his seat is gone. Like Labour the Tory's will be wiped out.
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Post by jaydee on Dec 24, 2022 10:44:15 GMT
And who did you used to be, oh sock puppet? Ah Nigel the one line wonder. And who do you think you are. Having problems answering the question. Could you tell me what the fascist parliament in Westminster is actually objecting to.
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Post by research0it on Dec 24, 2022 10:49:37 GMT
Who I am or used to be, is irrelevant to the point.
You have not researched a thing and that bigoted cartoon proves it.
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Post by jaydee on Dec 24, 2022 11:00:20 GMT
This bill has been rushed through to prevent Kate Forbes, who is on maternity leave, from opposing it. The sole reason is to have Westminster reject it and thus playing into the hands of these SNP inbreds who can then unctuously claim that the English bastards are preventing their sovereign will democratic Jock Pervert Bill bla bla from allowing true loyal patriotic Scots from being perverts in their own country. Ah OM15 back to the inbreeding of the Scots. I forgot about that one. I was just thinking about that yesterday on your circular rants. As his warped brain shows his hatred of the Jocks. . Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) between April 2002 and March 2017. Based on the number of offenses reported, the researchers worked out the prevalence of incest would exist somewhere between one in 5,247 and one in 4,699. Or there are around 400 - 1000 cases reported in England each year. What was that about inbreeding. The Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) provides the best measure of victimisation and estimated that for the year ending March 2020 there were 773,000 adults aged 16 to 74 years who were victims of sexual assault (including attempts) in the last year, with almost four times as many female victims (618,000) as male victims (155,000). Sexual crimes recorded by the police in Scotland in the same period was 13,131. Not even close Maybe it has something to to do with having to pay to drink your own shit. Now can you actually tell me what your problem with the bill is. Like everything else. You do not have a clue do you
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Post by jaydee on Dec 24, 2022 11:33:18 GMT
That means that a self declared pervert would be "female" in Scotland but male when in England, that could be confusing, what would his/her/it have entered in their UK passport. The ideal solution would be to pass a law dissolving the prentendy parliament, attest Sturgeon for treason and install a Westminster controlled Scottish Parliament under the control of Jacob Rees Mogg. The Scots would thank us for saving them from themselves in due course. Research, estimates that providing public services to victims of gender violence and the lost economic output of women affected costs England £15.8 billion annually. The cost to health, housing and social services, criminal justice and civil legal services is estimated at £3.9 billion. Could you tell me what gender the pantomime clown, with the put on gob, Jacob Rees Moggs is. It is clear he is a fanny. The ideal solution is for Scotland to go its merry way. And leve fascist England to its hate filled politics.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 24, 2022 11:45:22 GMT
I wonder if all the writers who are hostile to the scottish government's legislation on transgender issues, have actually researched the issue? Such as what has been the outcomes in countries who passed legislation such as this years ago? Or what is the suicide rates among young transgender people? Or the relative levels of violence between male prisoners pretending to be transgender, in order to access female prisons, as opposed to violence against transgender people in male prisons? Or the incidence of transgender people, later on in life, regretting the decision? Finally I wonder how the gay community would feel about having to obtain certification from medically qualified people that they are, indeed gay, before their status is legal? Being Gay does not remove rights from anyone else.
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Post by jaydee on Dec 24, 2022 11:48:43 GMT
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