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Post by om15 on Jan 25, 2023 11:37:34 GMT
If you are transgender Jaydee, I must apologise if I have offended you. Meanwhile, you are entitled to your opinions, opaque as they are, and I am entitled to mine. It is with relief that I find that mine are not the same as yours.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 25, 2023 11:39:54 GMT
Hi everyone Reem Alsalam Also floats a complete strawman. No one has ever said that predatory males taking advantage of legislation NEVER happens. But the solution is better systems to stop it, not abandoning a piece of legislation that potentially makes transgender lives much better. Oh Mr OM15 has said exactly that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2023 11:51:34 GMT
Hi everyone Reem Alsalam Also floats a complete strawman. No one has ever said that predatory males taking advantage of legislation NEVER happens. But the solution is better systems to stop it, not abandoning a piece of legislation that potentially makes transgender lives much better. Not sending men to women's prisons might be a good start.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 25, 2023 11:53:15 GMT
If you are transgender Jaydee, I must apologise if I have offended you. Meanwhile, you are entitled to your opinions, opaque as they are, and I am entitled to mine. It is with relief that I find that mine are not the same as yours. Offended. FFS matey I simply point out your absolutely stupidity. You ranted you have never heard of any persecution. That is what you said. Well now you have. So what opinion do you now hold. Or is your opinion the same as Jack in the box. How did he put it. I did not take their feeling into consideration. Your opinion matey was. You have never heard of persecution and you ranted it never happens in England because the law there is different. So what is your opinion now. That is what you were asked.. And for your info if it can penetrate. T he issue of gender recognition is devolved in Scotland, which allows the Scottish parliament, if it wishes, to legislate for a different policy to that of England and Wales. In 2004, the Scottish Parliament passed a motion to consent to Westminster's GRA, so that a uniform system of gender recognition would be in place throughout the UK.A 2018 consultation in England and Wales found that a majority of the over 100,000 respondents were in favour of removing most of the requirements for a GRC; despite this, in 2020, the government in Westminster announced that it would not legislate to relax the requirements. Separately, the Scottish government also consulted on reforming the law: an initial consultation on the principles of the bill which took place between November 2017 and March 2018 found a majority of the 15,500 respondents in favour of the bill; and the second consultation on a draft bill, taking place between November 2019 and March 2020, also found majority support. And you still in your opinion have not told me what criminal act the FM was guilty of. As you rant more drivel. That is what you said. Or how it stops females being assaulted in England. That to is what you said.
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Post by om15 on Jan 25, 2023 11:53:19 GMT
Even at the safety of women and girls?
You think the rights of possibly criminally minded people using transgender laws to be a threat to women and girls supersedes the rights of the women and girls? That is what this is all about, not victimisation of transgender people, but of course Jaydee is too thick to see that.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 25, 2023 11:53:55 GMT
Hi everyone Reem Alsalam Also floats a complete strawman. No one has ever said that predatory males taking advantage of legislation NEVER happens. But the solution is better systems to stop it, not abandoning a piece of legislation that potentially makes transgender lives much better. Not sending men to women's prisons might be a good start. Your problem being
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Post by om15 on Jan 25, 2023 11:57:37 GMT
Failing to put the rights and safety of young women and girls before the potentially evil intentions of criminals using the transgender laws for their own ends. That's what, as most people see it.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 25, 2023 12:00:20 GMT
If you keep men with penises who claim that they are women out of womens’private/ safe spaces then you would potentially make many women’s’ lives a lot better .
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Post by jaydee on Jan 25, 2023 12:03:43 GMT
Even at the safety of women and girls? You think the rights of possibly criminally minded people using transgender laws to be a threat to women and girls supersedes the rights of the women and girls? That is what this is all about, not victimisation of transgender people, but of course Jaydee is too thick to see that. No matey I do not think. I know. The law is already in place to deal with it. You are ranting shite. If you care to read what I posted. Oh look there is a law in England that says you cannot murder people. Or get pished then drive a car. Jings it must never happen there. And you still have not told me what criminal act the FM committed. Or why she wants to change to a man. That is the drivel you posted. . This is the type of bile that makes you stupid. You still have not told me how the law of England as it is. Stops men assaulting woman in England., That is what you said and have just said it again. This is what makes you more stupid. Nor have you explained what exactly is your problem with the GRR bill in Scotland. . Which you do not have clue. Which adds to your continual need to make a total prat of yourself.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 25, 2023 12:10:02 GMT
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Post by om15 on Jan 25, 2023 12:15:06 GMT
This is interesting and does seem to support my point of view, interesting to see how the Scots feel about it all,
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Post by jaydee on Jan 25, 2023 12:17:06 GMT
Failing to put the rights and safety of young women and girls before the potentially evil intentions of criminals using the transgender laws for their own ends. That's what, as most people see it. So what is this failing you are on about. That happens according to you in Scotland You have still not told me how all this has been stopped in England. That is what you have now said twice. Or how the FM wants to be man or what crime she had committed. That is what you said. Are you actually capable when you rant stupidity, ever in a position to back it up. As you still refuse to announce to the great unwashed. Your actual problem with the GRR bill. Now you have heard of the hate crimes against them in hate filled England. What is your opinion now.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 25, 2023 12:19:03 GMT
It applies everywhere matey. You are the one waffling matey. In fact I expect you to waffle a bit more soon matey.
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Post by happyjack on Jan 25, 2023 12:20:21 GMT
I don’t need helping out and that doesn’t help me out. All you are trying to do here is to desperately wriggle out any which way you can and to do so you are obviously prepared to twist and lie about what both you and I said to create false wriggle room. I am not going to give you or your lies any credibility by engaging with you over them. That would only give them and you a false appearance of validity. No dignity...no humility...no integrity. No surprise! wriggle out of what? I have re clarified my point for you . Its not diffuclt to understand
I see you are back though not using the quote tags so i dont get notified of your response in your typical cowardly manner.
You lie , you make claims about your lies that no one else is claiming , and then run away when wriggling on hooks of your own making , by throwing posts into threads in the hope you can get the last word in without the people you have lied about seeing them.
Waste of space.
“Re-clarified my point”. Well, if that isn’t a euphemism for “changed my words to suit my story” then I don’t know what is. At least you are admitting it now, I guess, even if you don’t realise that you are doing so. Wriggle out of being seen to be wrong, of course. What else do people with fragile egos try to to wriggle out of? Unlike you with your fragile ego, it seems, I don’t need reassurance that others on the forum agree with me, particularly if you are talking about the other 2 members of the Indy fantasist cell that operates on here, and which brings this forum down to playground level most of the time. If you need your ego massaged by either of them then heaven help you; one who is the standing joke of this site for good and immediately obvious reason, and the other who, like you, seems to be so consumed by his twisted false narrative and corrosive prejudices that he can’t even recognise and acknowledge self-evident facts Despite the efforts of the more balanced (and, it seems to me, more intelligent) contributors amongst us to raise the standard, thanks to you and your little gang this forum is dragged down to the embarrassing level of the lowest common denominator most of the time. And, as I have made clear before, I have no idea what quote tags are never mind knowing how to use them, but just to be clear, I say boldly, loudly and clearly for you to see and understand NO DIGNITY...NO HUMILITY...NO INTEGRITY........NO SURPRISE!
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Post by jaydee on Jan 25, 2023 12:31:46 GMT
This is interesting and does seem to support my point of view, interesting to see how the Scots feel about it all, Mr stupid once again at his best. Any stupid clown supports your point of view. You know like the view from the arsehole who ios now in jail in Nottingham for sex offences. Why do you continually listen to utter shite. I have just told you that some 57% to 27% of people in England agree with the Scotish GRR bill. Now because of it a rise in the indy poll. You have still not told me how all this has been stopped in England. That is what you have now said twice. Or how the FM wants to be man or what crime she had committed. That is what you said. Are you actually capable when you rant stupidity, ever in a position to back it up. As you still refuse to announce to the great unwashed. Your actual problem with the GRR bill. Now you have heard of the hate crimes against them in hate filled England. What is your opinion now. www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/majority-scots-now-favour-independence-29014100www.theguardian.com/media/2017/may/08/the-sun-owner-in-discussions-with-kelvin-mackenzie-over-his-departure
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