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Post by om15 on Jan 24, 2023 20:25:42 GMT
Increasing the current foreseeable problem to a situation whereby impressionable teenage children can be induced into this abnormal life choice without the safeguards that the society should be putting in place. What Sturgeon is doing is being negligent to a point of criminality.
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Post by research0it on Jan 25, 2023 7:06:59 GMT
Increasing the current foreseeable problem to a situation whereby impressionable teenage children can be induced into this abnormal life choice without the safeguards that the society should be putting in place. What Sturgeon is doing is being negligent to a point of criminality. Hi Om15 Except that in the countries where this sort of legislation has already taken place, there is no evidence that there is such an increase. The amount of discrimination and outright persecution transgender people endure means that they'd have to be very sure of themselves, before committing. You need to stop regarding them as abnormal. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 25, 2023 7:46:11 GMT
You need to stop regarding them as abnormal. I'd suggest the abnormal ones are those who convinced themselves that this guy is a woman and belongs in a womans prison....  |
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Post by research0it on Jan 25, 2023 8:33:34 GMT
You need to stop regarding them as abnormal. I'd suggest the abnormal ones are those who convinced themselves that this guy is a woman and belongs in a womans prison.... Hi pacifico I don't know the first thing about that person. I'd need to know all the facts and very few people bother trying. You know I'm a human being, with imperfect and reactive emotions. When I see photos like that, or the one with a transgender person in a dress who still looks like a man, my emotions scream "wierdi" and "abnormal". But everyone needs to stop assuming their emotional reactions are necessarily correct and inform themselves. Then, if necessary, tell themselves that their only human reaction is wrong, if that's what the research says. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 25, 2023 8:48:10 GMT
I don’t need helping out and that doesn’t help me out. All you are trying to do here is to desperately wriggle out any which way you can and to do so you are obviously prepared to twist and lie about what both you and I said to create false wriggle room. I am not going to give you or your lies any credibility by engaging with you over them. That would only give them and you a false appearance of validity. No dignity...no humility...no integrity. No surprise! wriggle out of what? I have re clarified my point for you . Its not diffuclt to understand
I see you are back though not using the quote tags so i dont get notified of your response in your typical cowardly manner.
You lie , you make claims about your lies that no one else is claiming , and then run away when wriggling on hooks of your own making , by throwing posts into threads in the hope you can get the last word in without the people you have lied about seeing them.
Waste of space.
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Post by thomas on Jan 25, 2023 9:06:47 GMT
Increasing the current foreseeable problem to a situation whereby impressionable teenage children can be induced into this abnormal life choice without the safeguards that the society should be putting in place. What Sturgeon is doing is being negligent to a point of criminality. meanwhile....
All kicking off in the tory party om , with many tories openly supporting the scottish parliaments legislation.
Dear oh dear.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2023 10:48:56 GMT
I'd suggest the abnormal ones are those who convinced themselves that this guy is a woman and belongs in a womans prison.... Hi pacifico I don't know the first thing about that person. I'd need to know all the facts and very few people bother trying. You know I'm a human being, with imperfect and reactive emotions. When I see photos like that, or the one with a transgender person in a dress who still looks like a man, my emotions scream "wierdi" and "abnormal". But everyone needs to stop assuming their emotional reactions are necessarily correct and inform themselves. Then, if necessary, tell themselves that their only human reaction is wrong, if that's what the research says. Do you really want to brainwash yourself in some vain attempt to protect the feelings of a multiple rapist pervert? And as you hadn't heard, I'll help you to "research0it" www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11673161/Furious-campaigners-slam-disgusting-decision-send-transgender-rapist-female-prison.html |
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Post by om15 on Jan 25, 2023 11:00:59 GMT
1. I have not seen or heard of any persecution of transgender people, have you? if so let me know, it would be illegal to do so and certainly the bulk of people are tolerant of the situation.
2. No I don't, that is my opinion and I am perfectly entitled to hold it if I choose to. I am tolerant of the genuine transgender people, (not the rapists, kiddie fiddlers and so on), but that doesn't mean that I have to think that it is normal.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 25, 2023 11:21:12 GMT
1. I have not seen or heard of any persecution of transgender people, have you? if so let me know, it would be illegal to do so and certainly the bulk of people are tolerant of the situation. 2. No I don't, that is my opinion and I am perfectly entitled to hold it if I choose to. I am tolerant of the genuine transgender people, (not the rapists, kiddie fiddlers and so on), but that doesn't mean that I have to think that it is normal. Mr stupid at his very best. You have not heard of anything. Only what you hear from the Westminster wankers and want to believe. All shot down in flames on every one of your posts. Every post 100% wrong. In 2020/2021, 2,630 Hate Crimes against transgender people were recorded by the Police in England, an increase of 16% from the previous year (Home Office, 2021). This number is still severely underreported because out of 108,100 responses to the National LGBT Survey, 88% of transgender people did not report the most serious type of incident. 48% of transgender people were not satisfied with the Police response after reporting the most serious types of incidents. You have heard it now. And you will be back in a few hours ranting the same drivel. And you do not hold a opinion. You hold havering slastgering rubbish. You have spewed gallons of pish, and still have not told me how the law as it stands in England has stopped all those crackpots dressing up as woman and assaulting women. That is what you said. And as you have not been informed what you have not heard. What is your opinion you are entitled to hold now. And oh Jack in he box who has sudeenly became famous. Has already stated he had not heard either. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 25, 2023 11:28:32 GMT
I'd suggest the abnormal ones are those who convinced themselves that this guy is a woman and belongs in a womans prison.... Hi pacifico I don't know the first thing about that person. I'd need to know all the facts and very few people bother trying. You know I'm a human being, with imperfect and reactive emotions. When I see photos like that, or the one with a transgender person in a dress who still looks like a man, my emotions scream "wierdi" and "abnormal". But everyone needs to stop assuming their emotional reactions are necessarily correct and inform themselves. Then, if necessary, tell themselves that their only human reaction is wrong, if that's what the research says. When even the UN are pointing out the pitfalls of putting a convicted rapist in a womens jail you might think that some people would stop and reconsider if their decisions are correct.. |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 25, 2023 11:29:36 GMT
Increasing the current foreseeable problem to a situation whereby impressionable teenage children can be induced into this abnormal life choice without the safeguards that the society should be putting in place. What Sturgeon is doing is being negligent to a point of criminality. What is she doing that is negligent to the point of criminality. It was passed by the Scottish parliament. Now failing to declare £5 million to HMRC is not the point of criminality it is criminality. Not wearing a seat belt and covid transgressions are criminality. As would. As would appointing Simeone who arranges a guarantor to £800,000. Not only criminality. But a blatant breach of security. |
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Post by research0it on Jan 25, 2023 11:29:37 GMT
Hi pacifico I don't know the first thing about that person. I'd need to know all the facts and very few people bother trying. You know I'm a human being, with imperfect and reactive emotions. When I see photos like that, or the one with a transgender person in a dress who still looks like a man, my emotions scream "wierdi" and "abnormal". But everyone needs to stop assuming their emotional reactions are necessarily correct and inform themselves. Then, if necessary, tell themselves that their only human reaction is wrong, if that's what the research says. Do you really want to brainwash yourself in some vain attempt to protect the feelings of a multiple rapist pervert? And as you hadn't heard, I'll help you to "research0it" www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11673161/Furious-campaigners-slam-disgusting-decision-send-transgender-rapist-female-prison.htmlHi blackiswhite No I don't do that What you have here is an individual example of something against the big picture statistics. This chap seemed reprehensible and it fits with what I've found. There are a few examples of predatory men abusing the legislation. But I've also found that the problem of persecution, discrimination and violence against transgender people to be over 200 times worse than those examples. So read my last paragraph. Predatory men exist. I don't deny it. But the violence against transgender people is over 200 times worse. Wouldn't it be better to protect the transgender people AND put in other measures to protect women from predatory men. I cannot see how that wouldn't be possible. I would suggest that brainwashing occurs when one only looks at examples that confirms one's existing belief set. I didn't do that. You did. |
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Post by research0it on Jan 25, 2023 11:31:42 GMT
Hi pacifico I don't know the first thing about that person. I'd need to know all the facts and very few people bother trying. You know I'm a human being, with imperfect and reactive emotions. When I see photos like that, or the one with a transgender person in a dress who still looks like a man, my emotions scream "wierdi" and "abnormal". But everyone needs to stop assuming their emotional reactions are necessarily correct and inform themselves. Then, if necessary, tell themselves that their only human reaction is wrong, if that's what the research says. When even the UN are pointing out the pitfalls of putting a convicted rapist in a womens jail you might think that some people would stop and reconsider if their decisions are correct.. Hi pacifico That's a failure of the system. That should be corrected. .but it happened under existing rules and has no bearing on whether the transgender new legislation should be passed. |
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Post by jaydee on Jan 25, 2023 11:32:52 GMT
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Post by research0it on Jan 25, 2023 11:36:07 GMT
Hi everyone
Reem Alsalam
Also floats a complete strawman. No one has ever said that predatory males taking advantage of legislation NEVER happens.
But the solution is better systems to stop it, not abandoning a piece of legislation that potentially makes transgender lives much better.
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