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Post by Pacifico on Jan 23, 2023 8:00:19 GMT
Lord Falconer, Lord Chancellor under Tony Blair, dismissed the complaints of those concerned about the safety of women, saying, “The vast majority of [applicants] are likely to be genuine.” - so if even the supporters of this scheme admit that a minority of those its aimed at will be a danger to women the obvious question springs to mind - how large does this minority have to be to make it a price not worth paying?
Would 10% be too high? - 20%?.
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Post by thomas on Jan 23, 2023 8:25:47 GMT
well how i see it borkie is the gender reform bill is a well meaning but needless distraction for wee nicky and the yes movement that didnt need to happen. I dont agree with it , and genuinely feared the worst.
...but just as wee nicky got the gun out , and took aim at her foot , your tories blundered in , took the gun off her , and proceeded to blow both their own feet off .
What should have been a suicidal act of self harm for wee nicky and the snp , has been turned around by those nice helpfull chaps in westminster.
Its that bad , my mate om is reduced to trying to sway scotlands public opinion using unelected lords , while hoping a party that commands 18 % in the polls , and is predicted to lose most of their seats , are seen as scotlands saviour.
Lovely folk english tories and brexiters , but not the sharpest tools in the box.
26% at the last count Tommy and there is every indication that the Scots will soon give up their child like fantasies of making a mess of their own affairs and return to the comforting embrace of Whitehall. 26% ? not with you borkie. Admittedly it is early in the morning.
Half the people in England support Ending the union , 54 % in scotland in the latest poll , the tories are in dissarray and looking like being wiped out at the next general election. 18 % support the tories in scotland , barely more than a local pressure group.
Im not sure what this 26 % is you speak of , but im thoroughly enjoying the end days of this tory government , and all the usual corruption , tory fantasy and of course sadly the absolute state of the uk economy.
Once that nice man mr starmer gets in , he will have you back in the european union in a jiffey before you can say im a european citizen.
talking of child like fantasies , you told me you were getting the return of empire and sid james carry on up the khyber after brexit..........instead , you had northern ireland taken off you and further terminal decline.
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Post by thomas on Jan 23, 2023 8:32:21 GMT
i have done , and i cant see what you are talking about. As ever , happy jack is caught out telling porkie pies , and we can of course yet again dismiss your invented nonsense with the scorn it deserves. Just because you can’t find the comments does not mean that they are not there. I cant find them becasue they dont exist. If you think they are there , then you will have no problem quoting them to me in whatever way you can manage , and we can debate what i said , rather than what happy jack implies i have said.
same old happy littering threads with lies bullshit and innuendo.
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Post by thomas on Jan 23, 2023 8:35:00 GMT
Lord Falconer, Lord Chancellor under Tony Blair, dismissed the complaints of those concerned about the safety of women, saying, “The vast majority of [applicants] are likely to be genuine.” - so if even the supporters of this scheme admit that a minority of those its aimed at will be a danger to women the obvious question springs to mind - how large does this minority have to be to make it a price not worth paying? Would 10% be too high? - 20%?. Well heres a perspective from an independent country.......
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 23, 2023 8:51:30 GMT
Doesnt answer the question - what is the offending rate for that 599?
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Post by thomas on Jan 23, 2023 9:03:57 GMT
Doesnt answer the question - what is the offending rate for that 599? well the article from Ireland says that there hasnt been a "surge in trans sex offences" , presumably that means the offending rate hasnt increased.
I read this though from the yookay......
Really small numbers. Like i said before , a silly distraction by sturgeon , and an even dafter intervention by the tory government.
Crazy hill to die on .
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Post by jaydee on Jan 23, 2023 9:23:18 GMT
Why on earth should he, Sturgeon came up with this shite, why is it someone else's job to sort it out and make it legal, it is an embarrassing mess and a humiliation for Scotland and Sturgeon is to blame. Why do you continually rant garbage. Some 57% to 27% of your own countrymen agree with the Scottish version. All Scottish leaders of Unionist party's except the clown Dross agree that Jack in the box should get back in the box. Even that dipstick ranted the wellbeing of those it affected did not enter his thinking. And you matey have no idea what it is about. So for the umptenth time. What is your problem with the Scottish GRR bill. Apart from being a out and out silly little Englander Jock hater. Do not come away with the red herring, safety. You still have not answered how the law in England as it stands has stopped men dressing up as woman and attacking them. That is what you rant.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 23, 2023 9:34:18 GMT
Rattled big krankie Johnsky outrageous as little Englanders Westminster wankers, have been compromised. Shown for what they are. Homophobic misogynist nut jobs. Confirmed by Jack in the box. To quote.. their well being did not enter his thinking. You do know who he is . Nah you do not. That is very obvious. Would you care to explain what your problem is. And explain your garbage how the FM is quitting. And exactly what your problem with her is. You do not have a clue do you.
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Post by thomas on Jan 23, 2023 9:35:21 GMT
Why on earth should he, Sturgeon came up with this shite, why is it someone else's job to sort it out and make it legal, it is an embarrassing mess and a humiliation for Scotland and Sturgeon is to blame. Why do you continually rant garbage. Some 57% to 27% of your own countrymen agree with the Scottish version. All Scottish leaders of Unionist party's except the clown Dross agree that Jack in the box should get back in the box. Even that dipstick ranted the wellbeing of those it affected did not enter his thinking. And you matey have no idea what it is about. So for the umptenth time. What is your problem with the Scottish GRR bill. Apart from being a out and out silly little Englander Jock hater. Do not come away with the red herring, safety. You still have not answered how the law in England as it stands has stopped men dressing up as woman and attacking them. That is what you rant. jaydee , as i said earlier , the mad thing is the tories are getting all their wee hopes up this latest strugeon bad will put scotland back in its box.....but its having the opposite effect. Meanwhile , all the polls are showing that the dim witted starmer will be the next uk pm (unless the tories go on yet another killing spree) and if starmer gets into power in 16 months or so , he will set about bringing in a similar GRR bill for englandshire.
You couldnt make this shite up.
The utter desperation of a dead empire in trying to hold onto the last of its colonies.
Meanwhile , in the real world away from snp bad stories , we have zahawi under increasing pressure about tax affairs , sunak getting grief over not wearing a seatbelt and being a general incompetent , johnson making someone head of the BBC after sorting him out a bank loan , and the uk government begging people not to use electricty. While viceroy jack is laughed at by every party in scotland.
Romes burning while the senators party , but om and co are focusing on the GRR bill , cause they think it might make scotland love england and the tories a wee bit more......
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Post by jaydee on Jan 23, 2023 9:42:40 GMT
I know that it is popular among the dim witted SNP supporters to blame Westminster for everything, but even they must concede that it is illogical to blame Westminster for Sturgeon breaking the law. Anyway, Sturgeon and her baying brownshirt supporters have been slagging off Westminster and trying to pick a fight since 2014, now they have a fight and they are going to be stuffed. Good. I shall enjoy seeing Westminster give Sturgeon a good humiliating drubbing and will waste no opportunity to keep you up to date with the details. Westminster is to blame for all the ails of Scotland. Let me explain it nice and simple. Using GERs Excluding London and the south-east, the rest of England has more than twice Scotland’s deficit while Wales and Northern Ireland are even worse, which just shows how much the City of London financial sector siphons off the profits generated in the rest of the UK. Or let me put it likes this. If GERs was used to calculate lets say the Dutch economy. This is how it would work To calculate the Dutch 'deficit' in the way we calculate Scotland's, the first thing you'd do is take about 20 per cent of Dutch public spending – and stop spending it in the Netherlands. Instead you'd send all that money to London so it could be spent there instead.And yes, that would immediately shrink the Dutch economy and its tax revenue at the expense of further boosting economic growth in London. Just as it does with Scotland. The fact is. Scotland can no longer afford debt ridden England. So if that is not the fault of Westminster. Because the English cannot live within their means. Who's fault is it. You tell me.
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Post by happyjack on Jan 23, 2023 10:14:46 GMT
Just because you can’t find the comments does not mean that they are not there. I cant find them becasue they dont exist. If you think they are there , then you will have no problem quoting them to me in whatever way you can manage , and we can debate what i said , rather than what happy jack implies i have said.
same old happy littering threads with lies bullshit and innuendo.
So the self-conceit and arrogance continue. You can’t find them so they must not exist even though you have someone else telling you otherwise. Well, they do exist so all you have to do is take a humility pill, read back through this thread and keep going until you finally spot them. And there is nothing to debate - which is just as well because, by the evidence that I have seen thus far, you lack the ability and/or the inclination to debate, relying on smart-ass quips, childish goading, reality deniance and twisted mythologies rather than anything remotely complying with accepted debating standards.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 23, 2023 10:15:25 GMT
Why do you continually rant garbage. Some 57% to 27% of your own countrymen agree with the Scottish version. All Scottish leaders of Unionist party's except the clown Dross agree that Jack in the box should get back in the box. Even that dipstick ranted the wellbeing of those it affected did not enter his thinking. And you matey have no idea what it is about. So for the umptenth time. What is your problem with the Scottish GRR bill. Apart from being a out and out silly little Englander Jock hater. Do not come away with the red herring, safety. You still have not answered how the law in England as it stands has stopped men dressing up as woman and attacking them. That is what you rant. jaydee , as i said earlier , the mad thing is the tories are getting all their wee hopes up this latest strugeon bad will put scotland back in its box.....but its having the opposite effect. Meanwhile , all the polls are showing that the dim witted starmer will be the next uk pm (unless the tories go on yet another killing spree) and if starmer gets into power in 16 months or so , he will set about bringing in a similar GRR bill for englandshire.
You couldnt make this shite up.
The utter desperation of a dead empire in trying to hold onto the last of its colonies.
Meanwhile , in the real world away from snp bad stories , we have zahawi under increasing pressure about tax affairs , sunak getting grief over not wearing a seatbelt and being a general incompetent , johnson making someone head of the BBC after sorting him out a bank loan , and the uk government begging people not to use electricty. While viceroy jack is laughed at by every party in scotland.
Romes burning while the senators party , but om and co are focusing on the GRR bill , cause they think it might make scotland love england and the tories a wee bit more......
Oh indeed hate filled England has no idea why it is hate filled. I get my kill at stupid Englishmen on here ranting utter shite about 1, a subject they have absolutely no idea about. 2. What their problem they actually have with the bill which was voted in by all parties. And as you say, like the smoking ban, the amended GRR bill will be part of English once the tartan Tories take power. With no Scottish Labour MPs. I see the new leader of the SNP is not going to be as nice as the last one. He has told the unelected Sunak to under take a deep clean of of his sleaze ridden corrupted lying fascist government. Including the sacking of Zahawi and his failure to declare to the HMRC. As he agrees to pay a £5 million penalty. FFS This is a government minister in charge of the nations affairs. Just as well he did not try that crap in America. He would be looking at 15 years to life. As in one Al Capone. By the way I have seen his grave. Flynn has also demanded the whip be withdrawn from the lying racist homophobic corrupt Bojoke after it hasnow came to light The now head of the BBC made arrangement for a guarantor for Johnston for a load of some £800,000. My my my. How to be head of he BBC. And of course the red meat of the GRR bill is thrown to the arseholes who caannot think for themselves to divert from the daily revelations of scandals, sleaze, lying, lining their pockets and corruption coming to light. So much for the integrity and accountability of another unelected sleaze bag. I suspect Sunak now realises he is the patsy. But what is beyond my ken.. . How can any body be so fecking stupid to not realise they are being thrown red meat. And it works on the clowns. Not with debate, but with vicious hate. Listen to them. If half of them had a machine guns. They would go out and mow down kids for playing football on the street or riding a bike on the pavement. Or kick shit out of a immigrant begging on the street. having just come from their invented church where they were singing Jesus wants me for a sunbeam, preaching love to all woman. You are not welcome in hate filled England with its 150,000 hate filled crimes a year and rising. The laughable bit. Not one has any idea of why they hate the FM with such venom.
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Post by jaydee on Jan 23, 2023 10:17:16 GMT
I cant find them becasue they dont exist. If you think they are there , then you will have no problem quoting them to me in whatever way you can manage , and we can debate what i said , rather than what happy jack implies i have said.
same old happy littering threads with lies bullshit and innuendo.
So the self-conceit and arrogance continue. You can’t find them so they must not exist even though you have someone else telling you otherwise. Well, they do exist so all you have to do is take a humility pill, read back through this thread and keep going until you finally spot them. And there is nothing to debate - which is just as well because, by the evidence that I have seen thus far, you lack the ability and/or the inclination to debate, relying on smart-ass quips, childish goading, reality denying and twisted mythologies rather than anything remotely complying with debating standards. I have quoted you time and time time again. So you matey are in no position to pontificate to any body about quoting. And when he does quote. You will go in the huff in total denial. .
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Post by thomas on Jan 23, 2023 10:18:56 GMT
I cant find them becasue they dont exist. If you think they are there , then you will have no problem quoting them to me in whatever way you can manage , and we can debate what i said , rather than what happy jack implies i have said.
same old happy littering threads with lies bullshit and innuendo.
So the self-conceit and arrogance continue. You make a claim , i ask you to help me out and show me what you are talking about , you cant do so and then waffle on that im arrogant and self conceited?
When someone makes a claim in polite society jack , the onus is on them to back that claim up. That you cant do so speaks volumes. (as ever....)
Now.....either put up or shut up , and stop wasting everyones time making up lies as normal.
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Post by Vinny on Jan 23, 2023 10:24:12 GMT
Meanwhile the SNP policy is shit. 16 year olds aren't old enough to drink in a pub never mind decide to have their genitals removed.
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