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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2022 23:42:26 GMT
the average pensioner’s net income increase by £510 a year since 2010.Welfare reforms made over the same period mean that working households with a child are down £375 a year. This is despite the fact that the number of pensioners in poverty (18pc) is well below that of the population as a whole (22pc) or children, almost a third of whom are below the poverty line. Of cousre the state pension enough British society has been known for its cruelty throughout the globe, there are lines that have been drawn which you cannot step over,you are sailing very close to the wind. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 18, 2022 1:49:11 GMT
What you think its cruel to suggest that state pension should come means tested like other Benefits.
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 18, 2022 1:58:12 GMT
How many years of annual erorision ? Even under the new labour years the state pension wentsavings 50% The triple lock was introduced because Pensions were not keeping up with wage increases. Take a 2% annual rise on a pension against a 2% annual rise on a £25,000 salary and the problem is easily seen. Talking about savings most are kept in tax free isa accounts and inflation over a few decades now have been histolically low 2-3% .has intrest rates rise so do the interest on savings |
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Post by Toreador on Dec 18, 2022 6:55:09 GMT
You are not making any allowances for inflation which also affects the limited savings of many pensioners.The triple lock was introduced because Pensions were not keeping up with wage increases. Take a 2% annual rise on a pension against a 2% annual rise on a £25,000 salary and the problem is easily seen. Talking about savings most are kept in tax free isa accounts and inflation over a few decades now have been histolically low 2-3% .has intrest rates rise so do the interest on savings Well I and millions of others haver never owned an ISA and interest rate average over tha past 50 years is just over 7%. prior to that in the 1960s, mortgage rates went up by almost 50% under your favourite Labour government. In the late 80s bank rate was well over 10%. Now stop talking even more bollox. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 18, 2022 8:38:48 GMT
the average pensioner’s net income increase by £510 a year since 2010.Welfare reforms made over the same period mean that working households with a child are down £375 a year. This is despite the fact that the number of pensioners in poverty (18pc) is well below that of the population as a whole (22pc) or children, almost a third of whom are below the poverty line. Of cousre the state pension enough Stop talking bollox, many pensioners still have a mortgage round their necks. Many pensioners live in places where they need to run a car. Pensioners are having to pay elevated fuel bils. There's a whole bagful of reasons some pensioners struggle. Imagine if I swapped this Stop talking bollox, many pensioners still have a mortgage round their necks. Many pensioners live in places where they need to run a car. Pensioners are having to pay elevated fuel bills. There's a whole bagful of reasons some pensioners struggle.
For this. Stop talking bollox, many benefits claimants still have a mortgage round their necks. Many benefits claimants live in places where they need to run a car. benefits claimants are having to pay elevated fuel bills. There's a whole bagful of reasons some benefits claimants struggle. What would your reaction be? |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 18, 2022 8:43:50 GMT
Stop talking bollox, many pensioners still have a mortgage round their necks. Many pensioners live in places where they need to run a car. Pensioners are having to pay elevated fuel bils. There's a whole bagful of reasons some pensioners struggle. Imagine if I swapped this Stop talking bollox, many pensioners still have a mortgage round their necks. Many pensioners live in places where they need to run a car. Pensioners are having to pay elevated fuel bills. There's a whole bagful of reasons some pensioners struggle.
For this. Stop talking bollox, many benefits claimants still have a mortgage round their necks. Many benefits claimants live in places where they need to run a car. benefits claimants are having to pay elevated fuel bills. There's a whole bagful of reasons some benefits claimants struggle. What would your reaction be? Wrong thread half a story. |
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Post by Toreador on Dec 18, 2022 9:48:52 GMT
Stop talking bollox, many pensioners still have a mortgage round their necks. Many pensioners live in places where they need to run a car. Pensioners are having to pay elevated fuel bils. There's a whole bagful of reasons some pensioners struggle. Imagine if I swapped this Stop talking bollox, many pensioners still have a mortgage round their necks. Many pensioners live in places where they need to run a car. Pensioners are having to pay elevated fuel bills. There's a whole bagful of reasons some pensioners struggle.
For this. Stop talking bollox, many benefits claimants still have a mortgage round their necks. Many benefits claimants live in places where they need to run a car. benefits claimants are having to pay elevated fuel bills. There's a whole bagful of reasons some benefits claimants struggle. What would your reaction be?
To tell you to stop talking bollox no matter how hard you find it and aspecially as the discussion was about pensioners. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 18, 2022 9:50:19 GMT
You are not making any allowances for inflation which also affects the limited savings of many pensioners.The triple lock was introduced because Pensions were not keeping up with wage increases. Take a 2% annual rise on a pension against a 2% annual rise on a £25,000 salary and the problem is easily seen. Talking about savings most are kept in tax free isa accounts and inflation over a few decades now have been histolically low 2-3% .has intrest rates rise so do the interest on savings "most" ?? And most of the less well off pensioners have ?? I see you ignored the point I made. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 18, 2022 10:01:39 GMT
Imagine if I swapped this Stop talking bollox, many pensioners still have a mortgage round their necks. Many pensioners live in places where they need to run a car. Pensioners are having to pay elevated fuel bills. There's a whole bagful of reasons some pensioners struggle.
For this. Stop talking bollox, many benefits claimants still have a mortgage round their necks. Many benefits claimants live in places where they need to run a car. benefits claimants are having to pay elevated fuel bills. There's a whole bagful of reasons some benefits claimants struggle. What would your reaction be?
Yo tell you to stop talking bollox no matter how hard you find it. That's a shame. I thought you might be more considered. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 18, 2022 10:01:45 GMT
Playing catch-up after many many years of annual erosion ---- for too many pensioners. How many years of annual erorision ? Even under the new labour years the state pension went up by 50% New Labour introduced the triple lock on pensions because of the errosion taking place. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 18, 2022 11:36:32 GMT
How many years of annual erorision ? Even under the new labour years the state pension went up by 50% New Labour introduced the triple lock on pensions because of the errosion taking place. Complete fiction ^ The Tory/Lib Coalition introduced the triple lock after turfing Labour out |
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Post by Toreador on Dec 18, 2022 12:44:59 GMT
New Labour introduced the triple lock on pensions because of the errosion taking place. Complete fiction ^ The Tory/Lib Coalition introduced the triple lock after turfing Labour out Is the correct answer. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 18, 2022 13:51:59 GMT
New Labour introduced the triple lock on pensions because of the errosion taking place. Complete fiction ^ The Tory/Lib Coalition introduced the triple lock after turfing Labour out Yes my mistake, 2010 after NL had been lied about and lost the election. (Helped by Brown's lack of Charisma). "As research commissioned by former shadow chancellor John McDonnell recently showed, the UK state pension is more than £50 a week lower than it would be if Margaret Thatcher hadn’t broken the earnings link in 1980 – the UK has one of the least generous pensions in Europe." So Tory Lib Dem corrected a Tory created problem. That'll do for me. |
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Post by Toreador on Dec 18, 2022 14:06:37 GMT
Complete fiction ^ The Tory/Lib Coalition introduced the triple lock after turfing Labour out Yes my mistake, 2010 after NL had been lied about and lost the election. ( Helped by Brown's lack of Charisma). "As research commissioned by former shadow chancellor John McDonnell recently showed, the UK state pension is more than £50 a week lower than it would be if Margaret Thatcher hadn’t broken the earnings link in 1980 – the UK has one of the least generous pensions in Europe." So Tory Lib Dem corrected a Tory created problem. That'll do for me. And serious lack of ability. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 18, 2022 14:11:13 GMT
Yes my mistake, 2010 after NL had been lied about and lost the election. ( Helped by Brown's lack of Charisma). "As research commissioned by former shadow chancellor John McDonnell recently showed, the UK state pension is more than £50 a week lower than it would be if Margaret Thatcher hadn’t broken the earnings link in 1980 – the UK has one of the least generous pensions in Europe." So Tory Lib Dem corrected a Tory created problem. That'll do for me. And serious lack of ability. If your comment is a reference to Brown then you are wrong. |
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