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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2022 13:12:37 GMT
I say them on pension imcome of more the 50, 000 per year should be means tested But then as nobody votes for any of you, but a very, very small minority, I wouldn't get carried away with picking on pensioners because they don't vote liebour. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 17, 2022 13:34:35 GMT
I say them on pension imcome of more the 50, 000 per year should be means tested But then as nobody votes for any of you, but a very, very small minority, I wouldn't get carried away with picking on pensioners because they don't vote liebour. If nothing Is done about state pension. THE pension ticking time bomd will just go boom. with them reaaching oension age increasing yrealy and them 8f a wirking age decreasing . |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2022 13:37:26 GMT
But then as nobody votes for any of you, but a very, very small minority, I wouldn't get carried away with picking on pensioners because they don't vote liebour. If nothing Is done about state pension. THE pension ticking time bomd will just go boom. with them reaaching oension age increasing yrealy and them 8f a wirking age decreasing . Which incidentally, they paid into the whole false belief that they would receive it back as a pension, it is not their fault it was completely mismanaged by the Westminster party, who now are looking for a way out. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 17, 2022 13:43:55 GMT
If nothing Is done about state pension. THE pension ticking time bomd will just go boom. with them reaaching oension age increasing yrealy and them 8f a wirking age decreasing . Which incidentally, they paid into the whole false belief that they would receive it back as a pension, it is not their fault it was completely mismanaged by the Westminster party, who now are looking for a way out. No It lie with who ever was in governance and with the grey vote i cant see any party having the balls to sort it out. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 17, 2022 13:45:19 GMT
If nothing Is done about state pension. THE pension ticking time bomd will just go boom. with them reaaching oension age increasing yrealy and them 8f a wirking age decreasing . Which incidentally, they paid into the whole false belief that they would receive it back as a pension, it is not their fault it was completely mismanaged by the Westminster party, who now are looking for a way out. If only people had continued to die aged 70. If only they had rejected all those new expensive drugs and treatments that keep them alive. But its not too late. Let them know you don't want any cancer you get treated with gene technology or the new chemo drugs. Just say NO to this waste of your National insurance payments, Tell them they are for your pension, not your life. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2022 13:47:24 GMT
Which incidentally, they paid into the whole false belief that they would receive it back as a pension, it is not their fault it was completely mismanaged by the Westminster party, who now are looking for a way out. If only people had continued to die aged 70. If only they had rejected all those new expensive drugs and treatments that keep them alive. But its not too late. Let them know you don't want any cancer you get treated with gene technology or the new chemo drugs. Just say NO to this waste of your National insurance payments, Tell them they are for your pension, not your life. Sounds like you are all for bad management of funds then. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 17, 2022 13:49:54 GMT
If only people had continued to die aged 70. If only they had rejected all those new expensive drugs and treatments that keep them alive. But its not too late. Let them know you don't want any cancer you get treated with gene technology or the new chemo drugs. Just say NO to this waste of your National insurance payments, Tell them they are for your pension, not your life. Sounds like you are all for bad management of funds then. No I'm about reality. Everyone wants more from the pot, but no one wants to put more in. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2022 13:51:25 GMT
Sounds like you are all for bad management of funds then. No I'm about reality. Everyone wants more from the pot, but no one wants to put more in. No they don't they want a fair return as they were promised. Which the Westminster all stood on. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 17, 2022 13:52:12 GMT
Which incidentally, they paid into the whole false belief that they would receive it back as a pension, it is not their fault it was completely mismanaged by the Westminster party, who now are looking for a way out. If only people had continued to die aged 70. If only they had rejected all those new expensive drugs and treatments that keep them alive. But its not too late. Let them know you don't want any cancer you get treated with gene technology or the new chemo drugs. Just say NO to this waste of your National insurance payments, Tell them they are for your pension, not your life. Something like that will happen. All it will take is a few more years putting pensioners into the ‘ benefit parasite ‘ drawer and it might become NHS policy to either restrict or coerce pensioners into restricting treatment l |
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Post by Steve on Dec 17, 2022 13:58:14 GMT
A pure annuity passes the risk of living long to a large organisation able to manage that risk A pure drawdown keeps the risk on the individual. Historically most drawdowns have been OK as the underlying fund has grown faster (or at least sufficient) to maintain the drawdown in real terms. But that is by no means guaranteed. I’m working a job to keep my small drawdown in the pot. The later I leave it to put into an annuity , the larger the annuity. You can index link the annuity but afaik it makes it far smaller in the first place . When you look at the crystallised drawdown pot the you need to take 20% off most of it and consider how inflation is going to eat into it. A big pot becomes much smaller. There is no guaranteed best option but looks like you are reducing the risk to you and (ultimately the state to underpin) with a hybrid approach. Good I'm getting mixed results, some of my pensions have been winners but the one that's not properly inflation linked clearly looks a bit sus now. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2022 14:00:39 GMT
If only people had continued to die aged 70. If only they had rejected all those new expensive drugs and treatments that keep them alive. But its not too late. Let them know you don't want any cancer you get treated with gene technology or the new chemo drugs. Just say NO to this waste of your National insurance payments, Tell them they are for your pension, not your life. Something like that will happen. All it will take is a few more years putting pensioners into the ‘ benefit parasite ‘ drawer and it might become NHS policy to either restrict or coerce pensioners into restricting treatment l Not going to happen, lets get back to basics, a couple of years ago they all voted for probably the second biggest misappropriation of funds ever under the guise of saving the NHS. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 17, 2022 14:13:04 GMT
No I'm about reality. Everyone wants more from the pot, but no one wants to put more in. No they don't they want a fair return as they were promised. Which the Westminster all stood on. Next you'll be saying people want the truth. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 17, 2022 14:14:11 GMT
Something like that will happen. All it will take is a few more years putting pensioners into the ‘ benefit parasite ‘ drawer and it might become NHS policy to either restrict or coerce pensioners into restricting treatment l Not going to happen, lets get back to basics, a couple of years ago they all voted for probably the second biggest misappropriation of funds ever under the guise of saving the NHS. Sorry, what’s not going to happen? |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2022 14:14:54 GMT
No they don't they want a fair return as they were promised. Which the Westminster all stood on. Next you'll be saying people want the truth. Its a long winded process, first they don't then they wished they did. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2022 14:16:23 GMT
Not going to happen, lets get back to basics, a couple of years ago they all voted for probably the second biggest misappropriation of funds ever under the guise of saving the NHS. Sorry, what’s not going to happen? That it will become permanent NHS policy. You can only push people so far. |
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