|
|
Post by jaydee on Dec 17, 2022 10:19:55 GMT
It just pie in the sky Westminster bullshit anyway, something for them to pretend they are doing something. Exactly |
|
|
|
Post by Toreador on Dec 17, 2022 10:24:23 GMT
In general I find common sense is not very common. Just look at some of the absolute clowns drivel and slaster on here. But you have not really thought it through. First the UK state pension is the lowest in the developed world. It's a joke. Even Mexico pays more. Second. As stated you have to pay NIC for years. What you pay is what you get back. On my state pension I still pay tax. Third. What do you define as rich. Third. To target who is rich would cost more than the pension contribution. Fourth. Even those with a private pension struggle. The way to deal with it is like what the Scottish government do. Those who earn the most pay the most. Then look at it from another point of view. It is not criminal to be rich. So a person who is rich is going to argue. As he does not get a state pension why should he pay NIC. The basic principle of democracy. No taxation without representation. I accept that is lost on this bunch of clowns in Westminster EVEL springs to mind. Not to mention the way this bunch of wankers who call themselves a UK government operate. You could lose your fortune and the family pile overnight. It is akin to saying. I have no children so I should not pay as much tax. I see where you are coming from. But believe me. You could not live of the state pension. It is the cost of one meal to the wankers. Who get a free breakfast at your expense. MPs get £25 per day for meals. That is £125 per week or to put it bluntly. What you get on a full UK state pension. I see where you are coming from. But you are at the wrong airport. www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/pampered-mps-enjoy-cut-price-25891783fullfact.org/online/MPs-25-lunch-allowance/  It just pie in the sky Westminster bullshit anyway, something for them to pretend they are doing something. I think you pay tax on your total income of which state pension is part. |
|
|
|
Post by Dan Dare on Dec 17, 2022 10:25:26 GMT
The only 'service' voluntary class 3 contributions cover is the basic state retirement pension. Contrary to TTL's imaginings it is not possible to contribute towards NHS care whilst resident outside the UK. The NHS is largely funded (85%) from general taxation anyway, not NI contributions.
|
|
|
|
Post by om15 on Dec 17, 2022 10:25:28 GMT
Not you then, evidently.
|
|
|
|
Post by jaydee on Dec 17, 2022 10:39:53 GMT
Geez. why are you speaking to yourself. Worked out yet what the figures state. That is the first part. Nah.. What they mean is clearly way past you. And you clearly do not understand I am not the OECD. Have you contacted the OECD and stated they have all that wrong as well. That is what you are saying. Neither did you tell me if you wrote to Professor Murphy to explain to him how Corbyn destroyed the UK economy. That is what you said and inferred. Or to Police Scotland on how the FM stole all this money that you keep ranting about. Or confirmed you know the difference between Conservatism and fascism. I apologise to all self respecting imbeciles |
|
|
|
Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 17, 2022 10:42:44 GMT
...I apologise to all self respecting imbeciles Good because you're giving them a bad name. |
|
|
|
Post by Bentley on Dec 17, 2022 11:00:14 GMT
Pensions are liable for tax the same as any other income.
I suspect the same lefties that claim a wage rise for nurses would not be as expensive as it seems because of the extra tax that they would pay are asking for pensioners to be denied a rise in the meagre pensions .
|
|
|
|
Post by jaydee on Dec 17, 2022 11:01:33 GMT
...I apologise to all self respecting imbeciles Good because you're giving them a bad name. Te He. Ah Nigel the forum one line wonder. I was wondering when you were going to pop up. And being true to form. You still have not told me why you are on here as you have contributed nothing. Lets look at your total drivel. 1, You rant. Right wing neo Nazis and fascist are left wing 2. You rant. The NHS and English national teams are Nazis because they have the word National in them. 3. Your total commitment and adoration to right wing fascist party's here and across Europe are mind boggling. 4. You insult all who disagree with you. By trying to be a smart ass. Not working. It makes you look stupid. 5. And not once have you answered a question. I do not apologise for given you a bad name. You managed all that by yourself. You still have not told me if you paint R and L on your shoes. You have a serious direction problem. I await on more garbage being spewed. That you consider a reply. Feel free to contact me on any of that you did not understand. I know it is difficult. But I am help to help you. |
|
|
|
Post by Steve on Dec 17, 2022 11:05:03 GMT
It's a typical mean-minded, politically motivated attack on the wealthy to try to win votes. . . . . . Nail hit head. But then the Adam Smith Institute has always been a den of stupidity. . .The problem is that the state pension is a very small amount of money . . . It's actually very generous compared to the contributions made. What we have is way too many people that didn't properly plan for their old age. It's hard not to see them as acting selfishly in their working years assuming someone would bail them out later. Thankfully the law has now changed so just about everyone has to make proper pension contributions. Countries like Germany do pay higher state pensions, that's because they take roughly double the level of compulsory contributions into their state schemes. Effectively they nationalised and compulsorised what were private pensions. A dangerous idea IMHO |
|
|
|
Post by zanygame on Dec 17, 2022 11:07:04 GMT
Pensions are liable for tax the same as any other income. I suspect the same lefties that claim a wage rise for nurses would not be as expensive as it seems because of the extra tax that they would pay are asking for pensioners to be denied a rise in the meagre pensions . I suspect some economists would say the same. Of course the change doesn't have to be all or nothing. We could split the state pension into a fixed amount and a means tested amount. |
|
|
|
Post by jaydee on Dec 17, 2022 11:07:52 GMT
Pensions are liable for tax the same as any other income. I suspect the same lefties that claim a wage rise for nurses would not be as expensive as it seems because of the extra tax that they would pay are asking for pensioners to be denied a rise in the meagre pensions . What football team do the lefties play for. In terms of your suspicion. If you get more money. You pay more tax. So if you pay more tax. The more the government gets. Gee whizz. What part did you not work out. You do know the government does not have any money. The tax payer does |
|
|
|
Post by zanygame on Dec 17, 2022 11:08:29 GMT
. .The problem is that the state pension is a very small amount of money . . . It's actually very generous compared to the contributions made. What we have is way too many people that didn't properly plan for their old age. It's hard not to see them as acting selfishly in their working years assuming someone would bail them out later. Thankfully the law has now changed so just about everyone has to make proper pension contributions. Countries like Germany do pay higher state pensions, that's because they take roughly double the level of compulsory contributions into their state schemes. Effectively they nationalised and compulsorised what were private pensions. A dangerous idea IMHO This^^ |
|
|
|
Post by Bentley on Dec 17, 2022 11:18:17 GMT
Pensions are liable for tax the same as any other income. I suspect the same lefties that claim a wage rise for nurses would not be as expensive as it seems because of the extra tax that they would pay are asking for pensioners to be denied a rise in the meagre pensions . What football team do the lefties play for. In terms of your suspicion. If you get more money. You pay more tax. So if you pay more tax. The more the government gets. Gee whizz. What part did you not work out. You do know the government does not have any money. The tax payer does Accrington Stanley. Well the same could be said about banks . So I’m not sure what you are on about. Do you? |
|
|
|
Post by totheleft3 on Dec 17, 2022 11:22:51 GMT
I say them on pension imcome of more the 50, 000 per year should be means tested
|
|
|
|
Post by Steve on Dec 17, 2022 11:24:16 GMT
I say them on pension imcome of more the 50, 000 per year should be means tested But all that is is introducing a marginal rate of income tax of over 100% Hopefully that makes it clear how dumb and unjust such would be. |
|
