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Post by Steve on Dec 15, 2022 21:23:19 GMT
That's a different point, you're moving the goal posts. It's an established fact that the older people were the more likely they were to vote to leave. That being older also meant they were less likely to have A levels or even degrees. It was of course wrong for some people to then suggest that meant leavers were dim and sadly some did that but were they ever part of the Remain campaign? I think not. Not so, I'm telling you that Remnants used ageism as one weapon against leaving, that us silly old fuckers didn't know what we were doing; it's even being done on this site. So you wish to pretend that generically remainers (you so childishly call remnants) used ageism. Utter BS as you full well know. You might find a few that did but to pretend that just about all remainers did is just another BIG FAT LIE
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Post by Steve on Dec 15, 2022 21:25:10 GMT
We don't have Brexit yet we are still tied to the EU Human Rights rulings. So we have a sort of limited Brexit. The quiet Brexiters will rise again if backtracking starts to happen too far and there are rumours already of some starting to suggest getting close once again. Another that still doesn't know the difference between the EU and Churchill's legacy The Council of Europe. And after being told umpteen times.
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Post by Toreador on Dec 15, 2022 21:29:03 GMT
Not so, I'm telling you that Remnants used ageism as one weapon against leaving, that us silly old fuckers didn't know what we were doing; it's even being done on this site. So you wish to pretend that generically remainers (you so childishly call remnants) used ageism. Utter BS as you full well know. You might find a few that did but to pretend that just about all remainers did is just another BIG FAT LIE I've always called them Remnants for that is what they are and I didn't say they all used ageism as an attack....unless of course you want to be labeled "pedant.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2022 21:32:10 GMT
Not so, I'm telling you that Remnants used ageism as one weapon against leaving, that us silly old fuckers didn't know what we were doing; it's even being done on this site. So you wish to pretend that generically remainers (you so childishly call remnants) used ageism. Utter BS as you full well know. You might find a few that did but to pretend that just about all remainers did is just another BIG FAT LIE Your post only sums up your ignorance of the campaign or your dishonesty/selective memory of what happened. Screaming in denial with capitals does come along as the forum equivalent of a toddler throwing a tantrum. I am also unsure why take such a dislike to the word 'remnants' when its meaning accurately describes those who are still campaigning long after Remain lost.
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Post by Steve on Dec 15, 2022 21:33:34 GMT
So you wish to pretend that generically remainers (you so childishly call remnants) used ageism. Utter BS as you full well know. You might find a few that did but to pretend that just about all remainers did is just another BIG FAT LIE I've always called them Remnants for that is what they are and I didn't say they all used ageism as an attack....unless of course you want to be labeled "pedant. You said 'remnants' with no determiner. Literally that means all of them but in modern parlance it has come to mean all with few exceptions (ie generically) It's the so called zero article form of expression. EG 'Cats have four legs'. 'Wines are made from grapes' etc etc. And of course you know full well you intended to malign all remainers
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Post by Steve on Dec 15, 2022 21:35:07 GMT
So you wish to pretend that generically remainers (you so childishly call remnants) used ageism. Utter BS as you full well know. You might find a few that did but to pretend that just about all remainers did is just another BIG FAT LIE Your post only sums up your ignorance of the campaign or your dishonesty/selective memory of what happened. Screaming in denial with capitals does come along as the forum equivalent of a toddler throwing a tantrum. I am also unsure why take such a dislike to the word 'remnants' when its meaning accurately describes those who are still campaigning long after Remain lost.
Ah B4 I've been expecting you. It's so easy to predict stalking trolls.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2022 21:38:27 GMT
Your post only sums up your ignorance of the campaign or your dishonesty/selective memory of what happened. Screaming in denial with capitals does come along as the forum equivalent of a toddler throwing a tantrum. I am also unsure why take such a dislike to the word 'remnants' when its meaning accurately describes those who are still campaigning long after Remain lost.
Ah B4 I've been expecting you. It's so easy to predict stalking trolls. My post is on-topic and following the chain of the discussion. I guess I will just have to conclude that you're intolerant and dishonest.
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Post by Steve on Dec 15, 2022 21:42:01 GMT
You can tell yourself anything you like B4. Your maliciously motivated supposed conclusions have all the value of a bucket of warm spit *
* possibly George Bush's finest ever phrase
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Post by Toreador on Dec 15, 2022 21:49:23 GMT
I've always called them Remnants for that is what they are and I didn't say they all used ageism as an attack....unless of course you want to be labeled "pedant. You said 'remnants' with no determiner. Literally that means all of them but in modern parlance it has come to mean all with few exceptions (ie generically) It's the so called zero article form of expression. EG 'Cats have four legs'. 'Wines are made from grapes' etc etc. And of course you know full well you intended to malign all remainersPedant it is then. Remnants....I jog along with several of them.
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Post by see2 on Dec 15, 2022 21:54:42 GMT
So you wish to pretend that generically remainers (you so childishly call remnants) used ageism. Utter BS as you full well know. You might find a few that did but to pretend that just about all remainers did is just another BIG FAT LIE I've always called them Remnants for that is what they are and I didn't say they all used ageism as an attack....unless of course you want to be labeled "pedant. Some refer to Leavers as traitors to Europe, I think that is derogative as too is to refer to anyone as a remnant.
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Post by Toreador on Dec 15, 2022 21:55:53 GMT
I've always called them Remnants for that is what they are and I didn't say they all used ageism as an attack....unless of course you want to be labeled "pedant. Some refer to Leavers as traitors to Europe, I think that is derogative as too is to refer to anyone as a remnant. Remnant is what's left over when the job is done.
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Post by Steve on Dec 15, 2022 22:01:32 GMT
I've always called them Remnants for that is what they are and I didn't say they all used ageism as an attack....unless of course you want to be labeled "pedant. Some refer to Leavers as traitors to Europe, I think that is derogative as too is to refer to anyone as a remnant. I've been known to refer to lying Brexiters as Brexshitters But overwhelmingly most of those that voted Leave did so honestly judging the situation as best they could. It's those that played them with lies and risibly false dreams that deserve the pejorative labels.
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Post by see2 on Dec 16, 2022 18:33:09 GMT
Some refer to Leavers as traitors to Europe, I think that is derogative as too is to refer to anyone as a remnant. Remnant is what's left over when the job is done. I know what a remnant is it is the left overs. I voted remain with a huge percentage of people who voted the same. And for obvious reasons, I advise no one to insult me, face to face by referring to me as a Remnant. I also know what damage deliberate lies can do, it seems that those who voted Leave either do not or are quite happy with lying in order to get their way. The UK will have to live with that lie at least until the the next referendum comes along in about 30 or 40 years time.
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Post by Toreador on Dec 16, 2022 18:41:34 GMT
Remnant is what's left over when the job is done. I know what a remnant is it is the left overs. I voted remain with a huge percentage of people who voted the same. And for obvious reasons, I advise no one to insult me, face to face by referring to me as a Remnant. I also know what damage deliberate lies can do, it seems that those who voted Leave either do not or are quite happy with lying in order to get their way. The UK will have to live with that lie at least until the the next referendum comes along in about 30 or 40 years time. You mean the one about "each UK household will be £4,300 worse off if the UK leaves the EU" or was that a Remnant said that?
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Post by see2 on Dec 16, 2022 22:24:19 GMT
I know what a remnant is it is the left overs. I voted remain with a huge percentage of people who voted the same. And for obvious reasons, I advise no one to insult me, face to face by referring to me as a Remnant. I also know what damage deliberate lies can do, it seems that those who voted Leave either do not or are quite happy with lying in order to get their way. The UK will have to live with that lie at least until the the next referendum comes along in about 30 or 40 years time. You mean the one about "each UK household will be £4,300 worse off if the UK leaves the EU" or was that a Remnant said that? No I am referring to Brexshiters I'm not referring to someone's guess that had nothing to back it up with other than their opinion, I am referring actual lies such as the EU is run by unelected people.
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