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Post by Einhorn on Dec 14, 2022 11:34:10 GMT
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. This lady obviously didn't have absolute power. If she had, she wouldn't have been suspended. The EU can only act within the constraints of the treaties. It does not have absolute power. Compare and contrast with the UK Parliament, which has absolute power as there is no written constitution. The only realistic restriction on the UK Parliament's power is the golden rule that one Parliament can't bind a later Parliament. Your criticism is correct, it's just that you've aimed it at the wrong institution. |
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Post by Vinny on Dec 14, 2022 12:14:51 GMT
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 14, 2022 12:18:48 GMT
As I understand it, this woman, her partner, and her aides have been arrested. Do we know who initiated the police action against these people? Was it fellow MEPs? The Politico article suggests that she had been alienated by her colleagues because of her support for Qatar. |
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Post by Toreador on Dec 14, 2022 13:12:47 GMT
So, back to the topic, Eva Kaili's assets have been frozen, she's been suspended by her party, she denies having been bribed but MEPs have voted 625-1 to strip her of her Vice President role. €600,000 has been found at the home of one suspect, €150,000 at the flat of an MEP and several hundred thousand euros in a suitcase in a Brussels hotel room. Investigations by the Belgian Police are on going. It's all good news if corruption is found and steps are being taken to correct and punish. Except that my single brain cell knows there'll be attempts to brush events under the carpet; how obout your cell? |
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Post by Vinny on Dec 14, 2022 14:50:03 GMT
The Belgian Police Force is not an institution of the EU, yet.
The EU may want to brush things under the carpet, but cannot.
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Post by om15 on Dec 14, 2022 17:18:48 GMT
Things are starting to make sense, top people in the EU plus more underlings now under arrest, vice president sacked, no surprise to any of it, Nigel Farage always claimed it was crooked from top to bottom, he has been proved right.
Now we see vast suitcases full of cash in bribes, backhanders and sleaze, now we can see why Nicola Sturgeon is striving every sinue to join the EU, her current perquisites are all very well but they don't compare to this, and the Scots are falling for it, hook line and sinker, as they say.
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Post by patman post on Dec 14, 2022 17:28:17 GMT
All this just negates the anti EU brigade’s rants against the parties and personalities in Brussels — it turns out they’re just as (or no more) corrupt as individuals in Cardiff, Holyrood, Stormont, or Westminster…
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 14, 2022 17:44:20 GMT
Things are starting to make sense, top people in the EU plus more underlings now under arrest, vice president sacked, no surprise to any of it, Nigel Farage always claimed it was crooked from top to bottom, he has been proved right. Now we see vast suitcases full of cash in bribes, backhanders and sleaze, now we can see why Nicola Sturgeon is striving every sinue to join the EU, her current perquisites are all very well but they don't compare to this, and the Scots are falling for it, hook line and sinker, as they say. The same Nigel Farage who refused to vote for EU measures to curb Putin's propaganda? |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 14, 2022 17:45:16 GMT
Things are starting to make sense, top people in the EU plus more underlings now under arrest, vice president sacked, no surprise to any of it, Nigel Farage always claimed it was crooked from top to bottom, he has been proved right. Now we see vast suitcases full of cash in bribes, backhanders and sleaze, now we can see why Nicola Sturgeon is striving every sinue to join the EU, her current perquisites are all very well but they don't compare to this, and the Scots are falling for it, hook line and sinker, as they say. The same Nigel Farage who refused to vote against EU measures to curb Putin's propaganda? What had that to do with corruption in the EU?. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 14, 2022 17:46:28 GMT
The same Nigel Farage who refused to vote against EU measures to curb Putin's propaganda? What had that to do with corruption in the EU?. Farage was obviously corrupt during his time at the EU. He'd know all about it. My remark was a natural follow on from OM15's post. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 14, 2022 17:50:59 GMT
What had that to do with corruption in the EU?. Farage was obviously corrupt during his time at the EU. He'd know all about it. My remark was a natural follow on from OM15's post. So if corruption in the EU is as endemic as you claim - good thing we left. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 14, 2022 17:52:54 GMT
Farage was obviously corrupt during his time at the EU. He'd know all about it. My remark was a natural follow on from OM15's post. So if corruption in the EU is as endemic as you claim - good thing we left. Let's not tar everyone with the same brush as Farage. Any idea who made the complaint to the Belgian police, Doc? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 17:52:59 GMT
All this just negates the anti EU brigade’s rants against the parties and personalities in Brussels — it turns out they’re just as (or no more) corrupt as individuals in Cardiff, Holyrood, Stormont, or Westminster… I've not heard these rants. Eurosceptics have been against our own political establishment, which some would argue are corrupt (to certain degree), for decades. The fact that the EU Parliament is found to be corrupt comes as no surprise. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 14, 2022 18:07:53 GMT
All this just negates the anti EU brigade’s rants against the parties and personalities in Brussels — it turns out they’re just as (or no more) corrupt as individuals in Cardiff, Holyrood, Stormont, or Westminster… I've not heard these rants. Eurosceptics have been against our own political establishment, which some would argue are corrupt (to certain degree), for decades. The fact that the EU Parliament is found to be corrupt comes as no surprise. The EU parliament? What percentage of the EU parliament is involved in this? Do you happen to know who initiated the police investigation? Was it 'the EU parliament' or an MEP? |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 14, 2022 18:36:56 GMT
So if corruption in the EU is as endemic as you claim - good thing we left. Let's not tar everyone with the same brush as Farage. Any idea who made the complaint to the Belgian police, Doc? Well the EU failed to spot the corruption that you claim exiosted - so how much more corruption have they failed to investigate? Sounds like a right cess pit We had a lucky escape. |
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