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Post by Toreador on Dec 13, 2022 12:17:59 GMT
Since I'm not the only one to call you a troll and since at least two people have you on ignore, not counting those who no longer post who may resent your style or styles similar to your's makes me think I'm on solid ground. Now if I were to fully explain something to you, I know, with absolute certainty, you will return with "Yeah but, what if" every fecking time and it isn't just with me but everyone who comments on your posts, not to mention your numerous repetitions; those actions describe trolling. This forum would be done a great service if someone would take the time to explain to Sal that 'yeah, but, what if' are the essence of debate. It's not possible without them. You never stop.As for being a troll, point to something specific. Vaguely calling someone a troll won't cut it. Were you trolling when you followed almost every post I made on the previous forum with some remark about my still being in school? Historical repetition.Some people have come here from echo chambers, where everyone is a Brexiter. For them, it's shocking to find their views challenged. So shocking in fact, they're inclined to define it as trolling. And some have come here thinking they can change that decision by writing on an obscure forum.
And the second post I got when I first joined the old forum was a See You Next Tuesday message from you. You're hardly one to throw allegations about. Histerical repetition.
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2022 12:26:46 GMT
You have an exaggerated idea of your own importance, Sal. You even wrote to Truss to advise her on the makeup of her cabinet (or, at least, you seriously considered it). No wonder you don't like to be challenged. Anyone who comes at you with a 'what, but, if' is simply impertinent. Well, the reality is that these are mere delusions of grandeur. The real world has a habit of intruding on that sort of thing.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 13, 2022 12:46:56 GMT
So, back to the topic, Eva Kaili's assets have been frozen, she's been suspended by her party, she denies having been bribed but MEPs have voted 625-1 to strip her of her Vice President role.
€600,000 has been found at the home of one suspect, €150,000 at the flat of an MEP and several hundred thousand euros in a suitcase in a Brussels hotel room.
Investigations by the Belgian Police are on going.
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2022 12:53:13 GMT
So, back to the topic, Eva Kaili's assets have been frozen, she's been suspended by her party, she denies having been bribed but MEPs have voted 625-1 to strip her of her Vice President role. €600,000 has been found at the home of one suspect, €150,000 at the flat of an MEP and several hundred thousand euros in a suitcase in a Brussels hotel room. Investigations by the Belgian Police are on going. Nobody's in the least bit surprised that a highly rule-governed organisation like the EU has taken such serious steps in the face of corruption charges. You and the others must be disappointed, though.
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Post by sandypine on Dec 13, 2022 14:34:27 GMT
So, back to the topic, Eva Kaili's assets have been frozen, she's been suspended by her party, she denies having been bribed but MEPs have voted 625-1 to strip her of her Vice President role. €600,000 has been found at the home of one suspect, €150,000 at the flat of an MEP and several hundred thousand euros in a suitcase in a Brussels hotel room. Investigations by the Belgian Police are on going. Nobody's in the least bit surprised that a highly rule-governed organisation like the EU has taken such serious steps in the face of corruption charges. You and the others must be disappointed, though. Perhaps we need Kinnock back to root out corruption and say the slate needs wiping clean, then trying to silence whistleblowers and accusing some of mental health issues. It is a good job he did not come out with lots of money otherwise we would have suspected him of not being straight with the public.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 13, 2022 14:54:23 GMT
Gotta say the Belgian Police have been fantastic, and the EU itself has behaved professionally by removing her as "vice President" so swiftly.
Credit where it is due.
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Post by Toreador on Dec 13, 2022 15:51:07 GMT
Gotta say the Belgian Police have been fantastic, and the EU itself has behaved professionally by removing her as "vice President" so swiftly. Credit where it is due. I think they didn't have an alternative and this is almost certainly the tip of the iceberg. High time the whole lobbying of the EU was stopped. www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1hVXSNeMXQThere was also a Farage EU speech revealing that large numbers of lobbying material landed in his post on a daily basis. Six or seven years ago lobbying was spending around £100 million in the EU with offices of lobbyist from around the world generously sprinkled around Brussels. I hate to think what the figure may now be. There will no doubt be attempts to stifle the investigation if things get to close to the bone.
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Post by Vinny on Dec 13, 2022 15:55:49 GMT
I used to fear they were even more corrupt than FIFA. I'm sure some of them actually are. But, no longer our prob. We're out.
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Post by Toreador on Dec 13, 2022 15:58:34 GMT
You have an exaggerated idea of your own importance, Sal. You even wrote to Truss to advise her on the makeup of her cabinet (or, at least, you seriously considered it). No wonder you don't like to be challenged. Anyone who comes at you with a 'what, but, if' is simply impertinent. Well, the reality is that these are mere delusions of grandeur. The real world has a habit of intruding on that sort of thing. Things happened to fast at the Truss time so I never got to write but I have since written to two MPs who still fail to respond. That's what you should do, maybe you can change the course of history.
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2022 17:51:46 GMT
You have an exaggerated idea of your own importance, Sal. You even wrote to Truss to advise her on the makeup of her cabinet (or, at least, you seriously considered it). No wonder you don't like to be challenged. Anyone who comes at you with a 'what, but, if' is simply impertinent. Well, the reality is that these are mere delusions of grandeur. The real world has a habit of intruding on that sort of thing. Things happened to fast at the Truss time so I never got to write but I have since written to two MPs who still fail to respond. That's what you should do, maybe you can change the course of history. No need. Support for Brexit is literally dying out: ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/thread/889/support-brexit-die-out
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2022 17:55:29 GMT
I used to fear they were even more corrupt than FIFA. I'm sure some of them actually are. But, no longer our prob. We're out. And you didn't pause to consider whether Farage might be just a teeny bit corrupt when he refused to vote for EU measures to curb Putin's propaganda?
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Post by Toreador on Dec 13, 2022 17:55:49 GMT
Things happened to fast at the Truss time so I never got to write but I have since written to two MPs who still fail to respond. That's what you should do, maybe you can change the course of history. No need. Support for Brexit is literally dying out: ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/thread/889/support-brexit-die-outYou're wasting yuour time on here supporting rejoining. I think you should join Reform UK and have the chance of meeting Nigel; he'll put you right.
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2022 17:58:06 GMT
There was also a Farage EU speech revealing that large numbers of lobbying material landed in his post on a daily basis. And how much of the lobbying material that landed on Farage's desk had a return address in Moscow?
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Post by Toreador on Dec 13, 2022 17:58:52 GMT
I used to fear they were even more corrupt than FIFA. I'm sure some of them actually are. But, no longer our prob. We're out. And you didn't pause to consider whether Farage might be just a teeny bit corrupt when he refused to vote for EU measures to curb Putin's propaganda? No need to consider, Nigel has been investigated on a number of occasions but they've never taken any legal action. Read the link I quoted a few posts back.
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2022 18:00:14 GMT
And you didn't pause to consider whether Farage might be just a teeny bit corrupt when he refused to vote for EU measures to curb Putin's propaganda? No need to consider, Nigel has been investigated on a number of occasions but they've never taken any legal action. Read the link I quoted a few posts back. It couldn't be more obvious that Farage is corrupt. I used to fear he was more corrupt than FIFA.
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