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Post by jonksy on Nov 24, 2024 12:10:01 GMT
They only had 20 percent of the electorate that allowed their landslide Andrew. Jonksy, please stop with the childish name calling…. Decisions are made by those who turn up and whichever party gets the most votes. Disgruntled supporters failing to turn out, or vote for reform knew very well in advance the consequences of them doing so, and equally, are well within their rights to have decided to do as they did. Maybe long term it may institute change within the Tories, or even see a shift towards reform, but this was always going to be the outcome of this election cycle. Regardless, the Labour Party is less than 6 months into their government, there isn’t a cat in hells chance there is going to be another election anytime soon. I never stated that anything will change but this is a total embarrasment for this government who have to mention this in the house after such a short period of being in power.
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Post by see2 on Nov 24, 2024 12:15:39 GMT
I could put up dozens of pics showing remainers watering down their weetabix with their tears.. What about the tears from the fooled Brexit voters who are still waiting for all these improvements they were told would happen, all they had to do was to vote Brexit LOL
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Post by jonksy on Nov 24, 2024 12:17:47 GMT
It won't change anything, but if a significant percentage of the electorate sign the petition then it may demonstrate to Starmer and his front bench that they are not universally approved of or admired. Added to the WFA, farmers, slumping economy, rise in unemployment, rise in inflation and out of control immigration a debate about their failures in Parliament may make them think twice before they do something else that is stupid. At least this keeps them in the spotlight. You can sign here petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143 Exactly. How many other governments have had to suffer this embarrassment after such a short time in power.
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Post by Rebirth on Nov 24, 2024 12:22:51 GMT
It won't change anything, but if a significant percentage of the electorate sign the petition then it may demonstrate to Starmer and his front bench that they are not universally approved of or admired. Added to the WFA, farmers, slumping economy, rise in unemployment, rise in inflation and out of control immigration a debate about their failures in Parliament may make them think twice before they do something else that is stupid. At least this keeps them in the spotlight. You can sign here petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143 It has gone up by nearly half a million sigs since I last looked.
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Post by see2 on Nov 24, 2024 12:24:38 GMT
Jonksy, please stop with the childish name calling…. Decisions are made by those who turn up and whichever party gets the most votes. Disgruntled supporters failing to turn out, or vote for reform knew very well in advance the consequences of them doing so, and equally, are well within their rights to have decided to do as they did. Maybe long term it may institute change within the Tories, or even see a shift towards reform, but this was always going to be the outcome of this election cycle. Regardless, the Labour Party is less than 6 months into their government, there isn’t a cat in hells chance there is going to be another election anytime soon. I never stated that anything will change but this is a total embarrasment for this government who have to mention this in the house after such a short period of being in power. Labour did get off to a bad start, but that is no excuse for all the lies, insinuations and exaggerations that have been used against them. The same old 'Dark Legend' approach that has worked so well for the Tories over most of the time during the last 70 odd years. And nasty political posts of perverted politics make you one of the main offenders. You and your ilk are largely to blame for the UK not filling its potential, shame on you.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 24, 2024 12:26:09 GMT
You're embarrassing yourself, you silly old fool.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 24, 2024 12:27:38 GMT
It won't change anything, but if a significant percentage of the electorate sign the petition then it may demonstrate to Starmer and his front bench that they are not universally approved of or admired. Added to the WFA, farmers, slumping economy, rise in unemployment, rise in inflation and out of control immigration a debate about their failures in Parliament may make them think twice before they do something else that is stupid. At least this keeps them in the spotlight. You can sign here petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143 It has gone up by nearly half a million sigs since I last looked. It is nearly 650K now. I am sure Reform will rub salt in the wounds...
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Post by om15 on Nov 24, 2024 12:31:07 GMT
Can you please explain what you mean by that curious observation. What in particular is Jonsky's"ilk"?
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Post by Handyman on Nov 24, 2024 12:31:25 GMT
The usual idiot come out with the same drivel its in the Mail , it is reported in more then one media outlet the Petition was started by a small business owner called Michael Westwood not the Media
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Post by om15 on Nov 24, 2024 12:32:08 GMT
645,455 at 12.31.
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Post by Handyman on Nov 24, 2024 12:36:51 GMT
I am not surprised there are a lot of angry people out there
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 24, 2024 12:39:01 GMT
6.1Million signed the People's Vote petition. What's your point?
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Post by Rebirth on Nov 24, 2024 12:42:29 GMT
6.1Million signed the People's Vote petition. What's your point? It's publicity. The EU referendum had a significantly higher turnout and was a binary option raw direct democracy event. Labour was elected on 19% of people, because most people know the mainstream party system is corrupt and broken.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 24, 2024 12:43:41 GMT
6.1Million signed the People's Vote petition. What's your point? The point is that the peoples vote had one of the largest turnouts ever recorded and labour are there with only 20% of the electorates approval..
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 24, 2024 12:50:53 GMT
6.1Million signed the People's Vote petition. What's your point? The point is that the peoples vote had one of the largest turnouts ever recorded and labour are there with only 20% of the electorates approval.. So what is the turnout level at which a vote becomes legitimate in your view?
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