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Post by see2 on Nov 23, 2024 11:16:30 GMT
I'm not sure there's an equivalence between 7th October and anything that the Israelis have done. Anything the Israelis have ever done? Both sides engaged in ethnic cleansing and killing for a long time before October the 7th, it has been going on for centuries now Israeli settlers (I am not suggesting they either are or aren't justified in doing so) have been evicting and killing Palestinian families for a long time now, with support from the govt They feel it is justified as Jewish land is holy and theirs - all of it YOU have had the explanation on page 2, on how the Palestinian Arabs CHOSE VIOLENCE against the Jews / Israelis back in 1948 instead of the peaceful cooperation offered. The wars of Israeli annihilation by the Palestinian Arabs and the Arab league were lost by the Arabs between 1948 and 1967, but Arab terrorism against Israel continued. Hamas and Hezbollah have not accepted defeat, they continue to this day with their non-stop terrorist attacks against Israel. |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 23, 2024 11:22:04 GMT
Wasn't violence committed against British troops by Haganah in 1948 also?
The conflict extends way before 1948 I'm afraid
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Post by see2 on Nov 23, 2024 11:31:10 GMT
Definition of 'genocide' "the deliberate and systematic killing or persecution of a large number of people from a particular national or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group".Israel is at war, the enemy is in hiding in the tunnels in Gaza. They're talking about complete annexation of both Gaza and the West Bank They believe all the land is rightly theirs, as it describes in the Bible NO, Arab violence have given the Israelis no options. The Israelis took control of the West Bank from Jordon in the 1967 war of annihilation against Israel, if the Israelis withdraw from the West Bank then Hamas will have a second home from which to attack Israel. If Hamas remain in Gaza, they will attack Israel again, with each attack increasing in violence, deaths, torture and rapes. Israel may be stopped from eliminating Hamas, but they wont be stopped from defending Israel. One question that needs to be asked is why is it being left to the Israelis to fight Hamas after the disgusting cowardly invasion of 7th Oct? |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 23, 2024 11:39:07 GMT
Well the Jews ruled the area a 1000 years before Islam was even invented so Hamas are the newcomers... All three major religions claim the site as their own, that's why Jerusalem is shared. Obviously, part of me would like it to be ruled by Christians but I can't accept that any Jews, or Muslims, should be kicked out Maybe the answer is to share it between everyone given all 3 revere it sharing has been offered and rejected numerous times since 1937 - not once has the Palestinian side accepted a proposal for shared lands |
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Post by see2 on Nov 23, 2024 11:48:23 GMT
Wasn't violence committed against British troops by Haganah in 1948 also? The conflict extends way before 1948 I'm afraid The term Haganah, in English means 'Defense' it originally emerged as a defense against Arab terrorism. Yes they blew up the King David hotel where British troops were stationed in 1946, it was a reaction against the British stopping Jewish refugees from entering Israel. I have already posted the information that the conflict between the Palestinian Jews and the Palestinian Arabs began in 1858 when the Ottomans remover the shackles of Dhimmitude from the Jews making them equal under the law to the Arabs. The Arabs chose not to accept that equality and caused trouble from that point on. |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 23, 2024 12:41:54 GMT
They're talking about complete annexation of both Gaza and the West Bank They believe all the land is rightly theirs, as it describes in the Bible NO Huh? It's a fact that the land is described in the Bible as part of Israel. What do you mean "no"? |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 23, 2024 12:42:50 GMT
All three major religions claim the site as their own, that's why Jerusalem is shared. Obviously, part of me would like it to be ruled by Christians but I can't accept that any Jews, or Muslims, should be kicked out Maybe the answer is to share it between everyone given all 3 revere it sharing has been offered and rejected numerous times since 1937 - not once has the Palestinian side accepted a proposal for shared lands The one Israeli PM who made real inroads with that was assassinated, his Arab counterparts have been killed off too at times |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 23, 2024 12:43:19 GMT
Wasn't violence committed against British troops by Haganah in 1948 also? The conflict extends way before 1948 I'm afraid The term Haganah, in English means 'Defense' it originally emerged as a defense against Arab terrorism. Yes they blew up the King David hotel where British troops were stationed in 1946, it was a reaction against the British stopping Jewish refugees from entering Israel. I have already posted the information that the conflict between the Palestinian Jews and the Palestinian Arabs began in 1858 when the Ottomans remover the shackles of Dhimmitude from the Jews making them equal under the law to the Arabs. The Arabs chose not to accept that equality and caused trouble from that point on. The Ottomans would in that case be to blame for that, not the Palestinians. |
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