Contributor "Totheleft" has (in the first post in this thread) copied text from a Wikipedia article. Unfortunately, Wikipedia is no longer objective; the article is biased in favor of the narrative asserted by Palestinian Arabs and their supporters. After quoting therefrom, the contributor then draws his conclusions.
Since Zionism is a Jewish movement which has existed since Biblical times, I believe it should be appropriate to counter-quote from a Jewish source:
Zionism goes back to Biblical times and cannot be separated as the contributor's article seeks to do, from the Jewish religion.
Since Biblical times for example, the Jewish Passover Haggadah (service for the Passover festival) has stated:
"Next year in Jerusalem", Jerusalem Zion, the ancestral Jewish capital city of all (except the northern Jewish sovereign state), of the many Jewish sovereign states they have previously had in the land of Israel.
Zionism can be traced to the first Exiles of Jewish people (“Jew”=citizen of “Judah” - Judaism is an ethnicity as well as a religion) caused by foreign invasion and occupation, as shown from the extract from Psalm 137 below.
Yet the Jewish people have also had an unbroken presence in their ancestral homeland of Israel despite the substantial exile of many of its people; an unbroken presence dating from Biblical times:
Extract from Psalm 137, verses 1 to 6:
The Jewish people are an ethnicity as well as a religion., their ancestors partially-exiled due to Roman invasion. Zionism is the expression of the Jewish people's desire for self-determination within their ancestral-homeland of Israel.
There has never been any indigenous "Palestine" / Arab sovereign state within the land of Israel upon which the Palestinian Arabs could base any claim to any part of the land of Israel. The last indigenous sovereign state in the land of Israel (on which the name “Palestine” was imposed by Roman-occupiers), prior to the RE-establishment of Israel in 1948, was the post-Biblical Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom. It included Judah and Samaria ("West Bank"), Gaza, and the Golan Heights. Its capital was (what is now referred to as "East") Jerusalem; between 110 BCE / 754 BH and 63 BCE / 706 BH - map:
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Hasmonean_kingdom.jpgTherefore the Jewish people logically cannot:
“invade”,
or “steal”,
or “illegally-occupy”,
or “illegally-settle”,
or “be a colony on”,
its OWN ancestral-homeland.
The Palestinian Arabs dropped the name “Arab” because they do not want you to understand they mostly originate from Foreign-Arab-Migrant-Workers who came to the land of Israel just prior to, and during the British Mandate, to take advantage of higher wages through Jewish returnee-exiles:
theettingerreport.com/arab-migration-shaped-palestinian-society/Why does the United Nations support the Palestinian Arab unverifiable claims?
The U.N. and its structures have for many years had a built-in pro Palestinian Arab bias. The Palestinian Arabs start-off in U.N. votes by enjoying a block-vote in their favour of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries (e.g. U.N. member states that are also members of the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation” and follow its policies when voting in the U.N.), and influence of Arab oil money with consequential trading power; compared to Israel's one vote.
thank you robert for your contribution you seem to think my premise is from a pro Palestine prospective it certainly isnt i come from a jewish religious point of view.
Ultra-Orthodox Jews
The best-known of the Jewish religious anti-Zionists is the Neturei Karta. This group is so extreme its members have met with enemies of Israel, such as the leaders of Iran and Hezbollah.
Another group is the Satmar, an ultra-conservative anti-Zionist Hasidic sect of Judaism. It was founded by Yoel Teitelbaum in 1928 in Szatmár, Hungary. He survived the Holocaust by escaping from Bergen-Belsen on a Zionist-planned rescue train to Switzerland in 1944. After spending two and a half years in Palestine, he arrived in the United States in 1947 and reestablished the Satmar Hasidic Court in the Williamsburg area of Brooklyn, New York. Teitelbaum was appointed president of Jerusalem’s ultra-Orthodox community, the Edah Ḥaredit 1953, a group primarily influenced by Neturei Karta. Over his 32-year leadership in the United States, Yoel garnered a sizable following from a diverse range of ultra-Orthodox Jewry.
Today, Satmar is the largest Hasidic sect globally, boasting approximately 100,000 followers. Its central community remains in Williamsburg, and it has established significant branches in Kiryas Yo’el, Los Angeles, Montreal, Antwerp, London, Buenos Aires, and Jerusalem.
Satmar advocates using Yiddish in everyday affairs rather than English or Hebrew, surpassing other Haredim in their dedication to the language. As a result, they are responsible for most Haredi Yiddish-language publications circulated in and around New York City.
The Satmar are anti-Zionist and do not recognize the state of Israel. They believe that Jews are required to wait for the Messiah before they return to the Holy Land. Satmar Hasidism views Zionism and the formation of the State of Israel as a blasphemous act against messianic prophecy. They reject the legitimacy of a political return to the Holy Land and Jewish sovereignty.
In 2017, the head of the Satmar Hasidic sect, Rabbi Aaron Teitelbaum, urged his followers to uphold the group’s staunch anti-Zionist stance. “We have no part in Zionism. We have no part in their wars. We have no part in the State of Israel,” he said. “We’ll continue to fight God’s war against Zionism and all its aspects.”
The Religious Zionist Response
Other Orthodox Jews counter that secular Zionism is a preliminary stage of religious Zionism and that the vows expressed in the Talmud no longer apply since non-Jews violated their obligations (by such actions as Roman persecutions, the Spanish Inquisition, and the Nazi Holocaust). The Balfour Declaration and the United Nations partition vote of 1947 are also regarded as having authorized the Jews to reestablish the state. Once this permission was granted, it could not be revoked.
Some Religious Zionist Jews see Israel’s creation as miraculous. They believe the formation of the secular state accelerates the process of redemption, and that they are playing a significant role in doing God’s will by serving the state.
Two religious Zionist parties, Shas and United Torah Judaism, serve in the Knesset. In 2021, the Religious Zionism Party was created to focus on “uniting religious Zionism” and serve as its ideological right-wing voice in the Knesset.
Some “non-Zionist” Jews are pleased that Israel exists from a practical standpoint as a haven for oppressed Jews and as a land imbued with holiness well suited for Torah study. However, they do not generally assign religious significance to the formation of the modern state and often decry aspects of its secular culture.
In addition to anti-Zionist and non-Zionist Jews, there are also “post-Zionists” who question Israel’s legitimacy and are primarily academics.
Today, the most prominent non-religious Jewish anti-Zionist groups are Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP), IfNotNow (INN), and the International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network (IJAN).
Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP)
JVP is one of the largest and most influential Jewish anti-Zionist groups in the United States. JVP was established in 1996 in the San Francisco Bay Area by three undergraduate students from the University of California, Berkeley. In 2002, its members decided to expand into a larger movement to influence U.S. Middle East policy.
JVP operates as a grassroots membership organization, with dues-paying members electing a national board responsible for the organization’s overall stewardship. The organization claims to be funded by thousands of donors supporting its vision (2022 contributions totaled $3.9 million).
Jewish Voice for Peace opposes Zionism because they claim that it counters the ideals of “justice, equality, and freedom for all people.” They argue that Zionism is a “settler-colonial movement” and believe it has established an “apartheid state” in which Jews have more rights than others. They claim that the Zionist ideology is to blame for Palestinian occupation, displacement, and massacre.
The organization also claims that Zionism harms the Jewish people by encouraging them to be suspicious of their non-Jewish peers and neighbors. Further, they insist that Zionism erases the existence of Jewish people of color, because it creates a “racist hierarchy with European Jews at the top.”
One of JVP’s core values involves building and maintaining relationships with Palestinian leadership and organizations. JVP sponsors anti-Israel demonstrations in response to Israeli military actions and to commemorate key events in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. These occasions are typically overtly anti-Israel and sometimes anti-Semitic. Some have featured support for terrorist groups and anti-Semitic depictions of Israel’s supporters.
There are around 12 active JVP chapters on college campuses. These chapters frequently work with Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) to promote anti-Israel initiatives, messages, and events. JVP supports the BDS movement and is involved in anti-Israel conferences held on college campuses nationwide. As proponents of intersectionality, JVP has conflated the Israeli-Palestinian conflict with domestic American issues such as racial injustice. JVP sponsors a “Deadly Exchange” campaign to end U.S. law enforcement Israel. “It compares U.S. police actions against Black Americas with the Israel Defense Force’s treatment of Palestinians” and claim the programs “promote and extend discriminatory and repressive policing practices that already exist in both countries.”
In June 2024, the Anti-Defamation League filed a formal complaint with the Federal Election Commission, accusing JVP’s political fundraising arm of multiple violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act and FEC regulations. The complaint highlights financial irregularities in the political action committee’s income and expense reports, accusing it of illegally accepting prohibited corporate contributions and donations exceeding federal limits.
IfNotNow (INN)
INN is a movement of American Jews that advocates ending U.S. support for Israel and equality for all Palestinians and Israelis. The movement began during Operation Protective Edge in 2014, when young Jews, angered by the response of American Jewish institutions, organized Mourner’s Kaddish recitations to honor the loss of both Israeli and Palestinian life. They demanded an end to the war on Gaza and freedom and dignity for all without acknowledging the terror threat to Israel. INN subsequently developed a long-term strategy to demand that American Jews stop supporting Israel and to change the Jewish political status quo.
INN claims to be a nonviolent movement that calls for the opposition of any policies that lead to the privilege of one group over another, specifically in Israel/Palestine. Their activism includes demonstrations against politicians, U.S. policies, and institutions perceived as supporting the “Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.” Members engage in civil disobedience, sit-ins, and other forms of nonviolent resistance to raise awareness about the situation in Israel and Palestinian territories. They also often confront politicians, institutions, and organizations that support policies they deem harmful. INN engages in lobbying and advocacy to influence U.S. policy toward Israel by calling for conditioning military aid to Israel on adherence to human rights standards.
INN critiques establishment Jewish institutions for “using Jewish fear” to justify policies that they claim maintain power over Palestinians. The organization calls for a future where Israelis and Palestinians are both safe and have equal rights and opportunities.
Unlike other anti-Israel Jewish groups, the movement engages in internal debates about Zionism, anti-Zionism, and the future of Israel. Some members believe in a one-state solution, while others support a two-state solution.
INN, alongside several other Jewish organizations, played a role in organizing anti-Israel demonstrations in the aftermath of the October 7, 2024, Hamas massacre of Israelis. In contrast to certain groups endorsing violent Palestinian resistance, IfNotNow has primarily focused on highlighting human rights violations they believe Israel is committing in Gaza and campaigning for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. They were among the organizers of the October 18 protest against Israel in Washington, D.C., during which hundreds of demonstrators were arrested.
International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network (IJAN)
IJAN is a group of Jews who are committed to opposing Zionism and the State of Israel. They view Zionism as a “racist movement” and Israel as an “apartheid state,” and promote the liberation of the Palestinian people and their land as well as the right of return for Palestinian refugees. IJAN has organized events, conferences, and protests in various countries all over the world, including the United States, Argentina, the UK, Spain, Canada, and France, challenging Israel’s policies and promoting Palestinian rights.
The network emphasizes the parallels between the Zionist “conquest” in Palestine and historical imperial conquests in other parts of the world. IJAN is an integral part of the international movement against Zionism, organizing events, conferences, and protests worldwide to challenge Israel’s policies and promote Palestinian rights. IJAN supports Palestinian self-determination and the right to “resist occupation.” The network, which has 10,000 Facebook followers, looks to Palestinian-led organizations and grassroots movements as primary reference points in this effort.
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