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Post by Totheleft on Nov 22, 2024 0:50:59 GMT
in all respect im not referring to todays present conflict but has you claim historical gaza and such are Israeli land what im asking how are the zionist going to claim that historical land with there already being zionist settlements happening i n the west bank and Bethlehem would there have to be genocide and resettlement in the future to reclaim the land The Palestinian Arabs obtained autonomy of the whole of Gaza (together with 40% of Judah and Samaria ("West Bank")) under the Oslo Accords: "Hamas" has never observed the Oslo Accords over the years firing thousands of rockets at Israeli cities whenever the fancy takes them, while "Fatah (under its guise of "Palestinian Authority, the") teaches to its children in its educational textbooks hatred of Jews and in which they also claim the whole of Israel (to none of it do the "Palestinian" Arabs have any verifiable-claim), and conduct a terrorist campaign in Judah and Samaria ("West Bank") and the rest of Israel. The Palestinian Arabs therefore being in blatant and indeed cynical, breach of the Oslo Accords, and devoid of any verifiable claims on any part of the land of Israel (which for propaganda purposes they and their United Nations and European Union friends, call "Palestine"), are therefore squatters and illegal-occupiers. Apart therefore from those Palestinian Arabs who have Israeli citizenship or Residence status, those who are illegally in the country, may have to be dealt with in the same manner that those who are in any country illegally are dealt with. Israel would not, and never has done, any "genocide". i think your purposely not answering my question im not talking about present or past conflict im asking about the future when the zionist reclaim there lost land my concern is what will happen to the christians that had there home land in Israel for century's and see it has there holy land |
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 22, 2024 10:22:57 GMT
^^^
I think I answered that here and elsewhere
While those on here and elsewhere with more favourable leanings towards Netanyahu will no doubt rush to defend his actions, it is a fact he currently relies for his position of power of a select few hardliners who will not stop until every square yard from the river to the sea flies a star of David and any not of that faith lie dead and decomposing into the land in question.
Those people have been of that mindset for millennia and I do not see them being any more benevolent towards the followers of Jesus Christ than they are and have been towards the descendants of Esau
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Post by Robert on Nov 22, 2024 14:25:52 GMT
I see that contributor "Totheleft" found the evidence of Biblical Zionism difficult. To assist the contributor with their desire for further evidence of Biblical Zionism, I invite them to read the Jewish Scriptures where they will find numerous descriptions of wars in which Israel defended itself in order to maintain the Jewish people's self-determination within their land. i have a fair understanding of jewish history plus jeova punishment for there cold heart to him but i really don't understand how to tie biblical Jewish scripter to modern day Zionist Israel isnt the jewish scriptures the Talmud and not the Torah The contributor wrote: "[God's] punishment for [their the Children of Israel's] cold heart [towards Him].": The Jewish Scriptures are not a "propaganda" exercise. They describe Jewish past events whether they show the Children of Israel in a good light, or indeed in a very critical light. The contributor also wrote: "i really don't understand how to tie biblical Jewish scripter to modern day Zionist Israel": The Jewish people's love and attachment Zionism, to their ancestral-homeland of Israel can clearly be seen from the Jewish Scriptures and is therefore is a part of their religion as is also clearly evident from their prayer books. The contributor wrote: "isnt the jewish scriptures the Talmud and not the Torah": The "Torah" is the entirety of Jewish religious teaching, or can refer more specifically to the Five Books of Moses. The "Talmud" comprises: the "Mishnah" (the Jewish oral law now written down), together with Commentaries "Gemarah" on it by famous revered learned Rabbis. Meaning no offence, I am now concerned that we are in danger of going off-topic. I recall we were warned by the moderator at the beginning of this thread (to which I came somewhat late) to stay on topic because this Discussion thread is within the "Mind Zone". |
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Post by Robert on Nov 22, 2024 14:34:10 GMT
The Palestinian Arabs obtained autonomy of the whole of Gaza (together with 40% of Judah and Samaria ("West Bank")) under the Oslo Accords: "Hamas" has never observed the Oslo Accords over the years firing thousands of rockets at Israeli cities whenever the fancy takes them, while "Fatah (under its guise of "Palestinian Authority, the") teaches to its children in its educational textbooks hatred of Jews and in which they also claim the whole of Israel (to none of it do the "Palestinian" Arabs have any verifiable-claim), and conduct a terrorist campaign in Judah and Samaria ("West Bank") and the rest of Israel. The Palestinian Arabs therefore being in blatant and indeed cynical, breach of the Oslo Accords, and devoid of any verifiable claims on any part of the land of Israel (which for propaganda purposes they and their United Nations and European Union friends, call "Palestine"), are therefore squatters and illegal-occupiers. Apart therefore from those Palestinian Arabs who have Israeli citizenship or Residence status, those who are illegally in the country, may have to be dealt with in the same manner that those who are in any country illegally are dealt with. Israel would not, and never has done, any "genocide". i think your purposely not answering my question im not talking about present or past conflict im asking about the future when the zionist reclaim there lost land my concern is what will happen to the christians that had there home land in Israel for century's and see it has there holy land The contributor asked about the future of the Palestinian Arabs in the land of Israel. I answered that. He may not be satisfied with my response; he is entitled to his opinion. I leave it to the reader to decide for themselves whether they are satisfied with how I responded. The contributor also wrote: "[...] what will happen to the christians [...]": Israel respects all religions. The religion of a person is not relevant to the legal right to stay in the country. This is, or should be, the same for any country. |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 22, 2024 15:07:40 GMT
i think your purposely not answering my question im not talking about present or past conflict im asking about the future when the zionist reclaim there lost land my concern is what will happen to the christians that had there home land in Israel for century's and see it has there holy land The contributor asked about the future of the Palestinian Arabs in the land of Israel. I answered that. He may not be satisfied with my response; he is entitled to his opinion. I leave it to the reader to decide for themselves whether they are satisfied with how I responded. The contributor also wrote: "[...] what will happen to the christians [...]": Israel respects all religions. The religion of a person is not relevant to the legal right to stay in the country. This is, or should be, the same for any country. ok robert that you for your participation much apricated |
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