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Post by Totheleft on Nov 21, 2024 19:42:40 GMT
yea ok
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Post by Bentley on Nov 21, 2024 19:46:43 GMT
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Post by Robert on Nov 21, 2024 20:32:14 GMT
has for psalm 134 why i think its out of context it is a historic psalm for prophecy but that was about prophecy when they was in exile in Babylon and that has been fulfilled. has a scripter where god says he wil return his people from the 4 corners of the earth . they be people of faith not Zionist Atheist if you can show me a scripture that its for atheist i will accept it. also there certain requirements the returning jews a required to do one of the is rebuild the Temple The prophesy of Deuteronomy 30:3-5 to which I referred, does not show that the extract from Psalms (to which I also referred) Psalm 137 verses 1 to 6, is taken out of context. The contributor also wrote: '[...] prophecy when they was in exile in Babylon and that has been fulfilled': Deuteronomy 30:3-5 states: 'He will once again gather you from all the nations [..]'. Therefore the prophesy at Deuteronomy 30:3-5 is not limited to the Babylonian exile. I fail to see the relevance of Atheism to the teachings of Scripture. He wrote: '[...] returning jews a required to do one of the is rebuild the Temple': Rebuilding the Temple is not a condition specifically for the ingathering of the exiles. |
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Post by Robert on Nov 21, 2024 20:48:45 GMT
jewish people cannot invade they just recently invaded Lebanon' illegally settle i think i might know your answer to this one but i put it to you. Zionist set up illegal in the west bank and Christian Bethlehem and Jerusalem your right the un recognize the state of Israel they also recognize the state of Palestine In regard to Lebanon, Israel is taking action against Hezbollah. Hezbollah illegally-occupies southern Lebanon on behalf of their Iranian masters against the wishes of the Lebanese government and people, while firing rockets at Israel and having planned to carry out an Hamas October 7th 2023 type attack on northern Israel. Hezbollah currently illegally occupies the land between the Litani river and the Israeli border, in contravention of U.N. resolution 1701 which was never enforced despite the presence of U.N. troops. Would you believe it reader, since Israel was obliged to take action against Hezbollah, the entire world now (but not before) seems to want to enforce resolution 1701, no doubt in order to recycle this scam against Israel where once again were Israel to pull out, Hezbollah would, as before, go back in at warp speed. The Lebanese army is not a target of the Israeli army. The "West Bank" only became known by that name when Jordan illegally-occupied it in 1948. Its proper name is Judah and Samaria (of which Bethlehem is part), which is part of the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people, that includes Jerusalem: Israel is Re-established within the Jewish ancestral homeland: Map of the post-Biblical Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom, which included the “West Bank”, Gaza, and Golan Heights. Capital (what is now East) Jerusalem / “Old City”; between 110 BCE / 754 BH and 63 BCE / 706 BH - Map: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Hasmonean_kingdom.jpgThe Jewish people logically cannot: “invade”, or “steal”, or “illegally-occupy”, or “illegally-settle”, or “be a colony on”, its OWN ancestral-homeland! |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 21, 2024 20:54:03 GMT
has for psalm 134 why i think its out of context it is a historic psalm for prophecy but that was about prophecy when they was in exile in Babylon and that has been fulfilled. has a scripter where god says he wil return his people from the 4 corners of the earth . they be people of faith not Zionist Atheist if you can show me a scripture that its for atheist i will accept it. also there certain requirements the returning jews a required to do one of the is rebuild the Temple The prophesy to which I referred Deuteronomy 30:3-5, does not show that the extract from Psalms to which I also referred Psalm 137, verses 1 to 6 is taken out of context; it was not taken out of context. He wrote: 'prophecy when they was in exile in Babylon and that has been fulfilled': Deuteronomy 30:3-5 states: 'He will once again gather you from all the nations [..]', so it is not limited to the Babylonian exile. I fail to see the relevance of Atheism to the teachings of Scripture. He also wrote: '[...] returning jews a required to do one of the is rebuild the Temple': Rebuilding the Temple is not a condition specifically for the ingathering of the exiles. psalm 137 is defiantly a babylon prophesy and cant be linked to the deut prophesy because like you said its a all nations one has for Atheism and no reference in scripture it shows the people hes talking in deut are his people of faith and not the zionist hope you see that from your scripture who are the people required to build the temple if not the gathering of exiles is it a gentile |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 21, 2024 21:05:54 GMT
jewish people cannot invade they just recently invaded Lebanon' illegally settle i think i might know your answer to this one but i put it to you. Zionist set up illegal in the west bank and Christian Bethlehem and Jerusalem your right the un recognize the state of Israel they also recognize the state of Palestine In regard to Lebanon, Israel is taking action against Hezbollah. Hezbollah wrongly occupy southern Lebanon on behalf of their Iranian masters against the wishes of the Lebanese government and people, while firing rockets at Israel and having planned to carry out an October 7th 2023 type attack on northern Israel, as did Hamas. The Lebanese army is not a target of the Israeli army. The "West Bank" only became k nown by that name when Jordan illegally-occupied it in 1948. Its proper name is Judah and Samaria (of which Bethlehem is part), being part of the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people, together with Jerusalem: Israel is Re-established within the Jewish ancestral homeland: Map of the post-Biblical Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom, which included the “West Bank”, Gaza, and Golan Heights. Capital (what is now East) Jerusalem / “Old City”; between 110 BCE / 754 BH and 63 BCE / 706 BH - Map: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4b/Hasmonean_kingdom.jpgThe Jewish people logically cannot: “invade”, or “steal”, or “illegally-occupy”, or “illegally-settle”, or “be a colony on”, its OWN ancestral-homeland! thank you for your truthful answers like i said i think i would of understand where your coming from has far has the west bank Gazza and Jerusalem and Bethlehem them being historically jews land whats the answer is it genocide and replacement if the Zionist want to reclaim all there land |
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Post by Robert on Nov 21, 2024 21:57:49 GMT
[...] psalm 137 is defiantly a babylon prophesy and cant be linked to the deut prophesy because like you said its a all nations one [...] Psalm 137 is not a prophesy; it is a lament. |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 21, 2024 22:04:23 GMT
Psalm 137 is not a prophesy; it is a lament. ok my bad i thought you was linking the psalm and deut together has prophesys why did you include the psalm if it was a lament of a past exile |
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Post by Robert on Nov 21, 2024 22:05:40 GMT
whats the answer is it genocide and replacement if the Zionist want to reclaim all there land Israel is undertaking a war of defence and deterrence against Hamas, Hamas who use civilians as human shields, thus unfortunately increasing the likelihood of civilian casualties, something which Hamas has never considered important. While there is no evidence of any "genocide", nevertheless it is this description which is routinely used by pro Palestinian Arab supporters as falsehood-propaganda, to describe Israel's defence; an accusation devoid of objective-evidence, and also a falsehood-accusation routinely used against Israel well before the latest hostilities. |
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Post by Robert on Nov 21, 2024 22:08:54 GMT
"Totheleft" wrote:"why did you include the psalm if it was a lament of a past exile [?]" Contributor "Totheleft" wrote: "why did you include the psalm if it was a lament of a past exile [?]": Because it is an example of Biblical Zionism and as such also an example of Zionism as part of the Jewish religion - In answer to this thread's subject matter.
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 21, 2024 22:23:27 GMT
Israel is undertaking a war of defence and deterrence against Hamas, Hamas who use civilians as human shields, thus unfortunately increasing the likelihood of civilian casualties, something which Hamas has never considered important. While there is no evidence of any "genocide", nevertheless it is this description which is routinely used by pro Palestinian Arab supporters as falsehood-propaganda, to describe Israel's defence; an accusation devoid of objective-evidence, and also a falsehood-accusation routinely used against Israel well before the latest hostilities. in all respect im not referring to todays present conflict but has you claim historical gaza and such are Israeli land what im asking how are the zionist going to claim that historical land with there already being zionist settlements happening i n the west bank and Bethlehem would there have to be genocide and resettlement in the future to reclaim the land |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 21, 2024 22:29:48 GMT
"why did you include the psalm if it was a lament of a past exile [?]" Contributor "Totheleft" wrote: "why did you include the psalm if it was a lament of a past exile [?]": Because it is an example of Biblical Zionism and as such also an example of Zionism as part of the Jewish religion - In answer to this thread's subject matter. i have to disagree with you on that matter unless you can provide with more examples of biblical zionism then i will look into it |
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Post by Robert on Nov 22, 2024 0:18:02 GMT
in all respect im not referring to todays present conflict but has you claim historical gaza and such are Israeli land what im asking how are the zionist going to claim that historical land with there already being zionist settlements happening i n the west bank and Bethlehem would there have to be genocide and resettlement in the future to reclaim the land The Palestinian Arabs obtained autonomy of the whole of Gaza (together with 40% of Judah and Samaria ("West Bank")) under the Oslo Accords: "Hamas" has never observed the Oslo Accords over the years firing thousands of rockets at Israeli cities whenever the fancy takes them, while "Fatah (under its guise of "Palestinian Authority, the") teaches to its children in its educational textbooks hatred of Jews and in which they also claim the whole of Israel (to none of it do the "Palestinian" Arabs have any verifiable-claim), and conduct a terrorist campaign in Judah and Samaria ("West Bank") and the rest of Israel. The Palestinian Arabs therefore being in blatant and indeed cynical, breach of the Oslo Accords, and devoid of any verifiable claims on any part of the land of Israel (which for propaganda purposes they and their United Nations and European Union friends, call "Palestine"), are therefore squatters and illegal-occupiers. Apart therefore from those Palestinian Arabs who have Israeli citizenship or Residence status, those who are illegally in the country, may have to be dealt with in the same manner that those who are in any country illegally are dealt with. Israel would not, and never has done, any "genocide". |
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Post by Robert on Nov 22, 2024 0:22:36 GMT
Contributor "Totheleft" wrote: "why did you include the psalm if it was a lament of a past exile [?]": Because it is an example of Biblical Zionism and as such also an example of Zionism as part of the Jewish religion - In answer to this thread's subject matter. i have to disagree with you on that matter unless you can provide with more examples of biblical zionism then i will look into it I see that contributor "Totheleft" found the evidence of Biblical Zionism difficult. To assist the contributor with their desire for further evidence of Biblical Zionism, I invite them to read the Jewish Scriptures where they will find numerous descriptions of wars in which Israel defended itself in order to maintain the Jewish people's self-determination within their land. |
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 22, 2024 0:39:17 GMT
i have to disagree with you on that matter unless you can provide with more examples of biblical zionism then i will look into it I see that contributor "Totheleft" found the evidence of Biblical Zionism difficult. To assist the contributor with their desire for further evidence of Biblical Zionism, I invite them to read the Jewish Scriptures where they will find numerous descriptions of wars in which Israel defended itself in order to maintain the Jewish people's self-determination within their land. i have a fair understanding of jewish history plus jeova punishment for there cold heart to him but i really don't understand how to tie biblical Jewish scripter to modern day Zionist Israel isnt the jewish scriptures the Talmud and not the Torah |
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