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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 16, 2024 10:17:22 GMT
According to the 2021 census 16% or just under 11 million people in the UK are foreign born, and according to the Migration Observatory the foreign born population has increased further from 2021 to 2024, no kidding, although no data is available. (Quelle surprise) True enough, but foreign born doesn't mean illegal necessarily. It could even mean British people who are foreign born, such as Boris who was originally born in New York for example. How many white British were foreign born but raised in the UK? I am aware of that, the point being why are low skilled/no skilled 'legal' immigrants allowed into this country who are a drain on the benefits system? Immigrants are supposed to benefit the country, yet they're claiming £6 billion a year in benefits. Why on earth mention Boris? Do you think he's claiming universal credit?.. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 16, 2024 10:21:54 GMT
True enough, but foreign born doesn't mean illegal necessarily. It could even mean British people who are foreign born, such as Boris who was originally born in New York for example. How many white British were foreign born but raised in the UK? I am aware of that, the point being why are low skilled/no skilled 'legal' immigrants allowed into this country who are a drain on the benefits system? Immigrants are supposed to benefit the country, yet they're claiming £6 billion a year in benefits. Why on earth mention Boris? Do you think he's claiming universal credit?.. He stated that it is patriotic to suuport the pm of the day...FFS i bet he was first in line to bash boris over a slice of cake. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 16, 2024 10:31:24 GMT
You didn't support Starmer during the election, but you support him now! That's perverse, it just doesn't make sense, unless of course you are a retard. Starmer is the most unpopular sitting prime minister ever, because he's a naive, inexperienced, socialist autocrat. And Starmer doesn't give a flying fuck about veterans, £3.5 million for veterans, £15.5 billion for illegals. Starmer is a woke one term champagne socialist. Proof please he spent £15.5bn on illegals? He's pledged to get that number down and spend less, but is tied and constrained by previous spending commitments already in place And I already said I'm far worse than a retard, they are insulted by you comparing me to them, I am far worse in general & always than anything anyone calls me support whoevers prime minister, it's the patriotic thing to do The cost of illegal immigrants to this country is a damned sight more than £15.5 billion. Since Labour came to power various information sources regarding immigration both legal and illegal has slowly dried up. This government do not want people to know the truth. GB News have repeatedly asked the government for information, the DWP say they don't collect this information [Benefits paid to immigrants!] or they will get back with the information, and never do. As far as supporting this prime minister is concerned, how to word it... hell will freeze over before I support this left wing socialist anti English minority appeasing freebie grabbing pensioner bashing excuse for a prime minister. He, along with his 'top team' LOL, are a monumental embarrassment. |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 18, 2024 13:58:39 GMT
Proof please he spent £15.5bn on illegals? He's pledged to get that number down and spend less, but is tied and constrained by previous spending commitments already in place And I already said I'm far worse than a retard, they are insulted by you comparing me to them, I am far worse in general & always than anything anyone calls me support whoevers prime minister, it's the patriotic thing to doSo you support a murdering lying cunt who is freezing our pensioners to death whilst pocketing thousands in freebies. And did you support Boris when he had a sip of wine and slice of cake? No, previously I condemned everyone including Labour. All I did was condemn and said nothing but rude things about both Labour and Tories, without ever saying anything good about them Now I would like to say only good things about everyone, rather than non stop condemning Boris actually does mean well, so I was very much wrong to condemn him too, just as others should avoid condemning Labour I thought you knew who I was from UKDebate - don't you remember all our fights over Boris as Oran?? |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 18, 2024 14:00:04 GMT
Proof please he spent £15.5bn on illegals? He's pledged to get that number down and spend less, but is tied and constrained by previous spending commitments already in place And I already said I'm far worse than a retard, they are insulted by you comparing me to them, I am far worse in general & always than anything anyone calls me support whoevers prime minister, it's the patriotic thing to doSo you support a murdering lying cunt who is freezing our pensioners to death whilst pocketing thousands in freebies. And did you support Boris when he had a sip of wine and slice of cake? PS: Didn't he u-turn on the WFA cuts?? Everyone got freebies, including Boris, I think the system should be reformed but no one should be condemned for it |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 18, 2024 14:01:37 GMT
True enough, but foreign born doesn't mean illegal necessarily. It could even mean British people who are foreign born, such as Boris who was originally born in New York for example. How many white British were foreign born but raised in the UK? I am aware of that, the point being why are low skilled/no skilled 'legal' immigrants allowed into this country who are a drain on the benefits system? Immigrants are supposed to benefit the country, yet they're claiming £6 billion a year in benefits. Why on earth mention Boris? Do you think he's claiming universal credit?.. How many people in the country from abroad are on benefits vs natives? Are they net contributors or net takers? Proof please to support that? |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 18, 2024 14:03:35 GMT
Proof please he spent £15.5bn on illegals? He's pledged to get that number down and spend less, but is tied and constrained by previous spending commitments already in place And I already said I'm far worse than a retard, they are insulted by you comparing me to them, I am far worse in general & always than anything anyone calls me support whoevers prime minister, it's the patriotic thing to do The cost of illegal immigrants to this country is a damned sight more than £15.5 billion. Since Labour came to power various information sources regarding immigration both legal and illegal has slowly dried up. This government do not want people to know the truth. GB News have repeatedly asked the government for information, the DWP say they don't collect this information [Benefits paid to immigrants!] or they will get back with the information, and never do. As far as supporting this prime minister is concerned, how to word it... hell will freeze over before I support this left wing socialist anti English minority appeasing freebie grabbing pensioner bashing excuse for a prime minister. He, along with his 'top team' LOL, are a monumental embarrassment. Proof please re the claims on illegal migrants? Everyone grabs freebies as a politician. It's normal. The regulations should be reformed but I won't condemn anyone until they are. Everyone does it and it's the norm. The WFA cuts were reversed IIRC |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 18, 2024 14:50:51 GMT
The cost of illegal immigrants to this country is a damned sight more than £15.5 billion. Since Labour came to power various information sources regarding immigration both legal and illegal has slowly dried up. This government do not want people to know the truth. GB News have repeatedly asked the government for information, the DWP say they don't collect this information [Benefits paid to immigrants!] or they will get back with the information, and never do. As far as supporting this prime minister is concerned, how to word it... hell will freeze over before I support this left wing socialist anti English minority appeasing freebie grabbing pensioner bashing excuse for a prime minister. He, along with his 'top team' LOL, are a monumental embarrassment. Proof please re the claims on illegal migrants? Everyone grabs freebies as a politician. It's normal. The regulations should be reformed but I won't condemn anyone until they are. Everyone does it and it's the norm. The WFA cuts were reversed IIRC What a hundred k in a few short weeks. Nah that's not normal it has to be a record,, |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 18, 2024 15:08:35 GMT
Proof please re the claims on illegal migrants? Everyone grabs freebies as a politician. It's normal. The regulations should be reformed but I won't condemn anyone until they are. Everyone does it and it's the norm. The WFA cuts were reversed IIRC What a hundred k in a few short weeks. Nah that's not normal it has to be a record,, Freebies are just the tip of the Iceberg when it comes to money in politics www.electoral-reform.org.uk/freebies-are-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-when-it-comes-to-money-in-politics/It's just the tip of the iceberg I think, reform the system but don't condemn anyone for using the legal means available to them in the system. But definitely reform it. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 18, 2024 15:12:10 GMT
Steamer had over a £100 k in a few short weeks. Lord alli even dressed up steamers wife. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 18, 2024 17:49:02 GMT
How many people in the country from abroad are on benefits vs natives? Are they net contributors or net takers? Proof please to support that? Completely irrelevant. Because we have people in this country who for whatever reason rely on benefits does not mean we should import hundreds of thousands of immigrants who rely on benefits too. Christ almighty what sort of an argument is that? There are c11000 foreign prisoners in British Jails, I assume you think that's OK because there are more British prisoners. You need to wake up. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 18, 2024 18:02:41 GMT
Last July Starmer stood outside 10 Downing Street and announced that the adults had arrived, he said this government would be a government of service, he said he was going to clean up politics. He then, in a matter of weeks accepted £107,000 in freebies, and claimed he was unaware of the rules regarding his wifes freebies. The man is a shameless charlatan. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 18, 2024 18:06:58 GMT
I am aware of that, the point being why are low skilled/no skilled 'legal' immigrants allowed into this country who are a drain on the benefits system? Immigrants are supposed to benefit the country, yet they're claiming £6 billion a year in benefits. Why on earth mention Boris? Do you think he's claiming universal credit?.. How many people in the country from abroad are on benefits vs natives? Are they net contributors or net takers? Proof please to support that? any migrant earning less than £35k is a net drain on the economy. |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 18, 2024 18:10:24 GMT
Steamer had over a £100 k in a few short weeks. Lord alli even dressed up steamers wife. How does that compare to others? |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 18, 2024 18:11:47 GMT
How many people in the country from abroad are on benefits vs natives? Are they net contributors or net takers? Proof please to support that? Completely irrelevant. Because we have people in this country who for whatever reason rely on benefits does not mean we should import hundreds of thousands of immigrants who rely on benefits too. Christ almighty what sort of an argument is that? There are c11000 foreign prisoners in British Jails, I assume you think that's OK because there are more British prisoners. You need to wake up. Who said I want anyone to rely on such? You say it's irrelevant, but surely we need to know real numbers to understand the scale of the problem. And who said anything about prisoners? Maybe they will try to reform politics and clean it up, they've not been in that long. It may take years for them to do it. |
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