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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 11, 2024 6:56:38 GMT
She is now questioning what she told the Guardian in 2018:
"Britain was probably the only country in Europe where it was possible to achieve her level of success in broadcasting with a very obviously Muslim name ... with a name like mine, my career would only have been possible in Britain”.
Now however she's having doubts. Her recent experiences of racism - particularly the riots - has left her shaken and no longer so certain of the UK's unique attraction and appeal for Muslims.
“I kind of always felt that the UK was way ahead of so many other countries on that and I don’t feel as sure of that today, especially after this summer, than I have done in the past.”
Two questions arise:
a) Is she right that the UK has been by far the most open country for Muslims in terms of opportunities for social and professional advancement?, and
b)Has that changed?
I'd suggest the answers in turn are yes and no.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 11, 2024 8:17:48 GMT
We are obviously the most open country for Muslims in Europe - if she believes this has changed what countries does she think are now better.
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 11, 2024 8:29:01 GMT
She is now questioning what she told the Guardian in 2018:
"Britain was probably the only country in Europe where it was possible to achieve her level of success in broadcasting with a very obviously Muslim name ... with a name like mine, my career would only have been possible in Britain”.
Now however she's having doubts. Her recent experiences of racism - particularly the riots - has left her shaken and no longer so certain of the UK's unique attraction and appeal for Muslims.
“I kind of always felt that the UK was way ahead of so many other countries on that and I don’t feel as sure of that today, especially after this summer, than I have done in the past.”
Two questions arise:
a) Is she right that the UK has been by far the most open country for Muslims in terms of opportunities for social and professional advancement?, and
b)Has that changed?
I'd suggest the answers in turn are yes and no.
1) Yes. 2) No. She's trying to psychologically reinforce number 1 by playing victim. She should be asking Jewish people how they feel in this country. I love the way she states she always thought the UK was 'way ahead of so many other countries', yet I suppose the irony is lost on her that devout defenders of her religion are about 150 years behind British civilisation. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 11, 2024 8:46:22 GMT
She is now questioning what she told the Guardian in 2018:
"Britain was probably the only country in Europe where it was possible to achieve her level of success in broadcasting with a very obviously Muslim name ... with a name like mine, my career would only have been possible in Britain”.
Now however she's having doubts. Her recent experiences of racism - particularly the riots - has left her shaken and no longer so certain of the UK's unique attraction and appeal for Muslims.
“I kind of always felt that the UK was way ahead of so many other countries on that and I don’t feel as sure of that today, especially after this summer, than I have done in the past.”
Two questions arise:
a) Is she right that the UK has been by far the most open country for Muslims in terms of opportunities for social and professional advancement?, and
b)Has that changed?
I'd suggest the answers in turn are yes and no.
You've asked the wrong question You should have asked 'is the UK the most open country for FEMALE Moslems' And the answer to that is, Iran and Lebanon used to be, but the UK took their place as Deobandi and Wagabi sects put women back in their place, but now those sects are pushing their ideology that it is better that a woman burns to death in a fire than has their ankles ogled by a man in the courtyard because their dakek suit is unreachable. |
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Post by om15 on Nov 11, 2024 8:46:42 GMT
I would put that at 1500 years.
If Ms Husain feels things have changed she might like to ponder on why this might be. She could start with Southport.
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 11, 2024 8:53:59 GMT
You've asked the wrong question You should have asked 'is the UK the most open country for FEMALE Moslems' And the answer to that is, Iran and Lebanon used to be, but the UK took their place as Deobandi and Wagabi sects put women back in their place, but now those sects are pushing their ideology that it is better that a woman burns to death in a fire than has their ankles ogled by a man in the courtyard because their dakek suit is unreachable. Her remarks were concerned with Europe. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 11, 2024 9:18:02 GMT
You've asked the wrong question You should have asked 'is the UK the most open country for FEMALE Moslems' And the answer to that is, Iran and Lebanon used to be, but the UK took their place as Deobandi and Wagabi sects put women back in their place, but now those sects are pushing their ideology that it is better that a woman burns to death in a fire than has their ankles ogled by a man in the courtyard because their dakek suit is unreachable. Her remarks were concerned with Europe. Ok. But YOU asked 'was the UK...' It's been a while since I last worked in Europe. My PA, Michaela, married a chap who turned his back on the cult of Mohammedanism. They worked in France for the 20 years I freelanced. I suspect anyone suggesting Michaela don a dalek suit is rapidly going to find themselves castrated with pruning shears and packed off to Saudi to live as a woman and see how that goes for them. If then you were asking about the UK today compared to Europe today, I suppose we are now more tolerant than some of the western European countries to those religions whose current leadership uses it as a tool to despise and control women. But that's because those men have acquired that power |
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Post by see2 on Nov 11, 2024 11:03:12 GMT
She is now questioning what she told the Guardian in 2018:
"Britain was probably the only country in Europe where it was possible to achieve her level of success in broadcasting with a very obviously Muslim name ... with a name like mine, my career would only have been possible in Britain”.
Now however she's having doubts. Her recent experiences of racism - particularly the riots - has left her shaken and no longer so certain of the UK's unique attraction and appeal for Muslims.
“I kind of always felt that the UK was way ahead of so many other countries on that and I don’t feel as sure of that today, especially after this summer, than I have done in the past.”
Two questions arise:
a) Is she right that the UK has been by far the most open country for Muslims in terms of opportunities for social and professional advancement?, and
b)Has that changed?
I'd suggest the answers in turn are yes and no.
1) Yes. 2) No. She's trying to psychologically reinforce number 1 by playing victim. She should be asking Jewish people how they feel in this country.I love the way she states she always thought the UK was 'way ahead of so many other countries', yet I suppose the irony is lost on her that devout defenders of her religion are about 150 years behind British civilisation.
Israel, unlike Muslim countries, is a theocracy. Islam is more than just a religion it is a self indoctrinating religious sect, and as such Islam the Religion is a danger to any country it thrives in. I'm pretty sure that most Muslims do not understand this reality.
For any Muslim reading and disagreeing with the above I suggest they look up the activity of the Amygdala (a part of the brain) and learn how it is designed to learn and to react to danger almost instantaneously, dragging the thinking brain into its delayed thoughts and actions behind it.
The non-thinking Amygdala triggers off hormonal changes, based upon learnt reactions that influence and sometimes controls thoughts and actions. I.E. it reacts according to what it learns to the extent to which it learns to react.
That IMO is one of the reasons why so many Muslims turn to violence and wars.
The same is true of all humans. |
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Post by piglet on Nov 11, 2024 11:15:48 GMT
What a pile.
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 11, 2024 11:23:45 GMT
Israel, unlike Muslim countries, is a theocracy. Islam is more than just a religion it is a self indoctrinating religious sect Israel is no form of theocracy that I recognise in what I would say is a common definition of the word Israel is a nation state whose rulers are part of a unicameral legislature selected by a subset of those who live within its land mass, and whose voters include a significant proportion of deranged religious fanatics, and the election process gives disproportionate power to those lunatics, but then again the same might be said save the unicamerality of the United States. But Israel is most certainly not a parliament of Rabbis. For a true theocracy where power is vested in the priesthood, which is what the word Theo racy means, I think you should look at today's (and maybe the last 20-30 years of) Iran... |
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Post by see2 on Nov 11, 2024 15:58:06 GMT
That is the mess between your ears, of course. Why don't you check it out, than you will not be so keen to make a fool of yourself. And adding other fools to join you. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 11, 2024 16:01:00 GMT
Israel, unlike Muslim countries, is a theocracy. Islam is more than just a religion it is a self indoctrinating religious sect Israel is no form of theocracy that I recognise in what I would say is a common definition of the word Israel is a nation state whose rulers are part of a unicameral legislature selected by a subset of those who live within its land mass, and whose voters include a significant proportion of deranged religious fanatics, and the election process gives disproportionate power to those lunatics, but then again the same might be said save the unicamerality of the United States. But Israel is most certainly not a parliament of Rabbis. For a true theocracy where power is vested in the priesthood, which is what the word Theo racy means, I think you should look at today's (and maybe the last 20-30 years of) Iran... Yes, I used the wrong word, I meant to use the word secular. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 11, 2024 17:27:35 GMT
www.wordnik.com/words/theocracyIsrael is no form of theocracy that I recognise in what I would say is a common definition of the word Israel is a nation state whose rulers are part of a unicameral legislature selected by a subset of those who live within its land mass, and whose voters include a significant proportion of deranged religious fanatics, and the election process gives disproportionate power to those lunatics, but then again the same might be said save the unicamerality of the United States. But Israel is most certainly not a parliament of Rabbis. For a true theocracy where power is vested in the priesthood, which is what the word Theo racy means, I think you should look at today's (and maybe the last 20-30 years of) Iran... Yes, I used the wrong word, I meant to use the word secular. Ok, but is it really one of those. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_stateA Secular state is supposed to have total separation of religion and state. Ideally they wouldn't even recognise a religion as charitable (as opposed to works they might do, which might be) as to give the organisation carte blanche in that area would mean a religion receivedeluef from state taxation for being a religion, whereas what one should perhaps do is secure relief from taxation on buildings and kitchens and expenses used to feed the homeless... To be honest I don't entirely understand the degree to which Israel embraces Ashkenazi Judaism as distinct from Sephardic, and one of those is very much NOT a secular organisation. I noted a few months ago the cult of weird hats and dreadlocks was outraged that it's traditional exemption from military service was being phased out, and the cult was being forced to risk the lives of its young men in the front line extermination squads instead of leaving that job to the women as they have done for centuries... No, I don't really know what Israel is. All I know is that for my entire adult life they've used American weaponry to exterminate the occupants of the land they think is theirs, from the river to the sea. A SECULAR state is supposed to have a |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 11, 2024 17:30:14 GMT
1) Yes. 2) No. She's trying to psychologically reinforce number 1 by playing victim. She should be asking Jewish people how they feel in this country.I love the way she states she always thought the UK was 'way ahead of so many other countries', yet I suppose the irony is lost on her that devout defenders of her religion are about 150 years behind British civilisation.
Israel, unlike Muslim countries, is a theocracy. Islam is more than just a religion it is a self indoctrinating religious sect, and as such Islam the Religion is a danger to any country it thrives in. I'm pretty sure that most Muslims do not understand this reality.
For any Muslim reading and disagreeing with the above I suggest they look up the activity of the Amygdala (a part of the brain) and learn how it is designed to learn and to react to danger almost instantaneously, dragging the thinking brain into its delayed thoughts and actions behind it.
The non-thinking Amygdala triggers off hormonal changes, based upon learnt reactions that influence and sometimes controls thoughts and actions. I.E. it reacts according to what it learns to the extent to which it learns to react.
That IMO is one of the reasons why so many Muslims turn to violence and wars.
The same is true of all humans.Big letters , small brain , cod psychology .^ |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 11, 2024 18:24:30 GMT
1) Muslims aren't a race.
2) Islamic terrorism, grooming gangs and general bigotry has shown us that not all Muslims are peaceful friendly people to be welcomed into our country.
We need to be selective.
We don't need any more Anjem Choudary's.
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