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Post by sheepy on Dec 16, 2022 10:22:52 GMT
Squirm you little fecker. I knew you would not be able to back-up the garbage you post. My request exposed the real person behind your posts as your post made you look like an angry discontented ten year old who has just had his arse smacked. Well come then less of the squirming, which war can you name where no lies were told? we are all waiting in earnest.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2022 10:24:00 GMT
So not just one but two Blairite centrist twits are insisting upon calling me an extremist, as if I am on a par with Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky.
And the fact is, which neither Blairite seems to get, is that my politics were once mainstream for decades in their own party, so calling that extreme is goalpost shifting on their part with dubious motivations in an attempt to establish a false narrative. When all dissent from the status quo is regarded as extreme by definition, that is very close to a totalitarian mindset.
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Post by see2 on Dec 16, 2022 10:26:31 GMT
You are a waste of space. Only the second Dossier was referred to, by an unreliable blogging source, as the Dodgy Dossier. The reason being that it included an element of Plagiarism, which should not have happened. But again no lies were told. LOL no lies were told. hilarious. Which war can you name where no lies were told? Goal posts moved I was referring to the dossiers, not to the war. I'll put your sneaky twist down to your natural sneakiness. Instead of making asinine remarks, show the evidence behind your comment. That way your posts just might begin to to earn a little respect.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 16, 2022 10:27:55 GMT
LOL no lies were told. hilarious. Which war can you name where no lies were told? Goal posts moved I was referring to the dossiers, not to the war. I'll put your sneaky twist down to your natural sneakiness. Instead of making asinine remarks, show the evidence behind your comment. That way your posts just might begin to to earn a little respect. I don't want your respect stupid, I want you to name the wars that no lies were told.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2022 10:31:47 GMT
After the fact for your information, there is more than enough evidence the invasion was illegal. Either show me a UN dossier that says the invasion was illegal or stop posting your silly ill-informed posts. The invasion was clearly of dubious international legality, sold to us on a tissue of lies... www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/was-britains-military-action-in-iraq-legal/If you are here to defend the Iraq War in spite of everything, you have no moral legitimacy and have a fucking nerve calling anyone else an extremist
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Post by see2 on Dec 16, 2022 10:34:26 GMT
That's why I posted "normally" not never. In this country alone there are those who could hardly be regarded thickoes, examples such as King Arthur, Wat Tyler, Cromwell, Robin Hood and even Mel Gibson. The original point suggested that aggression is taking place all the time. My reply was and is clear enough. All you are doing is chasing a tangent you have created for yourself. Hope you enjoy it.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 16, 2022 10:45:37 GMT
Tis tumbleweed.
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Post by Toreador on Dec 16, 2022 10:51:28 GMT
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Post by see2 on Dec 16, 2022 10:55:57 GMT
Either show me a UN dossier that says the invasion was illegal or stop posting your silly ill-informed posts. The invasion was clearly of dubious international legality, sold to us on a tissue of lies... www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/was-britains-military-action-in-iraq-legal/If you are here to defend the Iraq War in spite of everything, you have no moral legitimacy and have a fucking nerve calling anyone else an extremist The invasion was, according to the UN, legitimate and legal and within International Law. There are plenty of reasons to hate or to feel uncomfortable about the Iraq war, not least because events suggested that Bush was not really interested in 1441, his real interest was revenge for 9/11. However, Saddam Hussein made the invasion inevitable, all he had to do in order to avoid the invasion was to fully comply with UN Res 1441. 1441 included all the UN Resolutions on the need to comply with the Ceasefire agreement he signed in 1991 and which he had refused to comply with for 12 years. If you wish to put a bloggers opinion and insinuations over UN resolutions, that's prerogative. But to use it as a base for your accusation that I have no moral legitimacy is just pure bias on your part. It's that sort of strong bias that puts you as being as much of an extremist on the left as Thatcher was extremist on the Right. Both fall short of total extremism.
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Post by see2 on Dec 16, 2022 11:01:09 GMT
Goal posts moved I was referring to the dossiers, not to the war. I'll put your sneaky twist down to your natural sneakiness. Instead of making asinine remarks, show the evidence behind your comment. That way your posts just might begin to to earn a little respect. I don't want your respect stupid, I want you to name the wars that no lies were told. Stop making up lies about me. I have never claimed or even hinted that there were wars without lies. There is no chance, and there has never been any chance of me having any respect for you or the nonsense you post, but this is an open forum so most readers will have little or no respect for what you post.
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Post by see2 on Dec 16, 2022 11:08:36 GMT
I was so tempted to say the Westminster party should have checked their information sources before voting on my behalf, but then it would be obvious I was using see2 as a patsy.LOL oh I just did. You have just proved that you are the poster of idiotic nonsense, it says so much about you
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Post by sheepy on Dec 16, 2022 11:10:38 GMT
Has see2 stopped squirming yet and named the wars where no lies were told? I think not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2022 11:14:46 GMT
The invasion was, according to the UN, legitimate and legal and within International Law. There are plenty of reasons to hate or to feel uncomfortable about the Iraq war, not least because events suggested that Bush was not really interested in 1441, his real interest was revenge for 9/11. However, Saddam Hussein made the invasion inevitable, all he had to do in order to avoid the invasion was to fully comply with UN Res 1441. 1441 included all the UN Resolutions on the need to comply with the Ceasefire agreement he signed in 1991 and which he had refused to comply with for 12 years. If you wish to put a bloggers opinion and insinuations over UN resolutions, that's prerogative. But to use it as a base for your accusation that I have no moral legitimacy is just pure bias on your part. It's that sort of strong bias that puts you as being as much of an extremist on the left as Thatcher was extremist on the Right. Both fall short of total extremism. For as long as you insist upon labelling everyone who disagrees with you an extremist you are talking bollocks. My views were mainstream for decades in your very own party. You are now attempting to move the goalposts to establish a false narrative. And my link pretty much shot down the dubious basis for legality of the Iraq War based upon UN resolutions which were distorted for an entirely new purpose. Supporting military aggression is more of an extremist trait than anything I have ever said or done In trying to establish a false narrative about socialists like me who were once mainstream in your party you are engaging in establishmentarian propaganda and betraying your party's roots. That makes you a crunt with no r. You are about as true Labour as a typical soft Tory. There is no true Labour anymore. You have destroyed it and now seek to mislabel those who were once its backbone as extremists. Utterly contemptible of course.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2022 11:17:42 GMT
I don't want your respect stupid, I want you to name the wars that no lies were told. Stop making up lies about me. Such a plea would carry much more moral weight if you stopped making up lies about others.
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 16, 2022 11:21:25 GMT
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