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Post by Totheleft on Nov 4, 2024 8:37:04 GMT
what that they account for 5% of homicides in England and wales 0.013 deaths per hundred thousand, and you said 5% of deaths, not homicides. Illegally owned firearms are the weapon in most firearm murders. As usual you're exaggerating things. vinny open up a thread and we discus it there
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 4, 2024 8:41:34 GMT
or he just wants to show how Dangerous the far-right are especially has far are vunarble youth are concerned Yes but who are the far right, what makes them far right, how does one know who they are and what makes them extremist? One can create a bogey man but if it is a rather nebulous and ethereal entity how do we know what it is and what to do about it. It has the ring of others who warn that the far right are on the rise but cannot define what makes them far right and in a circular fashion say it is because others say so. Are there policies we should look out for. Groups like National Action a proscribe Far right Group
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 4, 2024 8:43:10 GMT
OK - in the last 20 years how many far-right terrorist attacks has there been in the UK? including them prevented of course you do realize you dont have to commit a terrorist attack to be a terrorist Forget prevented as you cannot stop all attacks - so how many terrorist attacks have the far-right committed in the UK in the past 20 years?
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 4, 2024 8:47:59 GMT
The simple problem I have with your post is that for the past 67 years the only threats to my continued existence have been from your friends on the twisted left, or towel head religious fuckwits, or Guinness drinking religious fuckwits. Not once have I been threatened by a Hitler worshipping maniac. But I have been firebombed by leftist scum who hated the idea of me funding a cure for cancer, my town has been bombed by Irish terrorists, my water supply bombed by Welsh ones, my uncle was RPG'd by incompetent towel wearing religious jerks who missed him but blew up their mates in the other speedboat.... And that's just a start ... ok john open a thread about left wing terrorist in the last five years nevermind about whataboutry
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 4, 2024 8:50:00 GMT
including them prevented of course you do realize you dont have to commit a terrorist attack to be a terrorist Forget prevented as you cannot stop all attacks - so how many terrorist attacks have the far-right committed in the UK in the past 20 years? i will get to them soon enough
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Post by Vinny on Nov 4, 2024 8:58:29 GMT
Yes but who are the far right, what makes them far right, how does one know who they are and what makes them extremist? One can create a bogey man but if it is a rather nebulous and ethereal entity how do we know what it is and what to do about it. It has the ring of others who warn that the far right are on the rise but cannot define what makes them far right and in a circular fashion say it is because others say so. Are there policies we should look out for. Groups like National Action a proscribe Far right Group And how many people have they killed? How many members did they have? Don't exaggerate problems to suit your politics, not exactly Al Qaeda or ISIS are they? Remember the Ariana Grande bombing. Far more of a problem.
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 4, 2024 9:05:19 GMT
The simple problem I have with your post is that for the past 67 years the only threats to my continued existence have been from your friends on the twisted left, or towel head religious fuckwits, or Guinness drinking religious fuckwits. Not once have I been threatened by a Hitler worshipping maniac. But I have been firebombed by leftist scum who hated the idea of me funding a cure for cancer, my town has been bombed by Irish terrorists, my water supply bombed by Welsh ones, my uncle was RPG'd by incompetent towel wearing religious jerks who missed him but blew up their mates in the other speedboat.... And that's just a start ... ok john open a thread about left wing terrorist in the last five years nevermind about whataboutry I have. Ages ago. In the Welsh News thread. Remarking on the fact the Corbyn Arse Kissing first minister now twice removed found Welsh terrorism in support of the language 'quite exciting' But that isn't what I came to this thread to talk about I came to this thread to talk about the fact that the only terrorists I have had a real world threat from were either LEFT wing or Religious Nutters. NO 'right wing' person has threatened me. They may exist, but none are a threat to me, in my home, in my town, today. And I don't really give a flying one about some other people in some other country. Worrying about the shit THEY might possibly be in is how Yiu get a forty billion black hole. Time to plug the hole and let them sort their own shit out.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 4, 2024 9:07:58 GMT
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Post by Orac on Nov 4, 2024 9:12:23 GMT
The fact some immigrant groups are clearly hostile creates a problem for the multicultural idealism.
Their solution is to try to cast the bulk of the UK public as a terrorist threat to the uk.
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 4, 2024 9:17:29 GMT
ok john open a thread about left wing terrorist in the last five years nevermind about whataboutry I have. Ages ago. In the Welsh News thread. Remarking on the fact the Corbyn Arse Kissing first minister now twice removed found Welsh terrorism in support of the language 'quite exciting' But that isn't what I came to this thread to talk about I came to this thread to talk about the fact that the only terrorists I have had a real world threat from were either LEFT wing or Religious Nutters. NO 'right wing' person has threatened me. They may exist, but none are a threat to me, in my home, in my town, today. And I don't really give a flying one about some other people in some other country. Worrying about the shit THEY might possibly be in is how Yiu get a forty billion black hole. Time to plug the hole and let them sort their own shit out. john dont really think you have a place to talk about terrorism if its right about you whats posted on here you supporting bervix goodbye
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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 4, 2024 9:18:27 GMT
Groups like National Action a proscribe Far right Group And how many people have they killed? How many members did they have? Don't exaggerate problems to suit your politics, not exactly Al Qaeda or ISIS are they? Remember the Ariana Grande bombing. Far more of a problem. Yes, a bloody good point. My grand daughter and her school pals are currently able to enjoy jumping on a train and hitting the retail high spots in the big city like Primark in Cardiff .... Don't knock it, when I was their age I would wander round Cardiff's weird shop arcades on a Saturday with my mates and jump on a bus home after... A week or so back I got a 'grandad can you pick us up from the station' call. I went off looking for a couple of school kids but madam and her mates came off the train looking like footballers wives without the silicon implants in the lips.... And walking like they owned the bloody place. Which is good. It shows the UK is still at least in part the country I built nukes to keep. A country where three teenage girls can jump on a bus, then a train, then go round the shops looking like they're ten years older and god's gift to men and nothing happens...... But they are a prime target for the sort of scum that blew up that concert hall.....
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 4, 2024 9:21:47 GMT
The fact some immigrant groups are clearly hostile creates a problem for the multicultural idealism. Their solution is to try to cast the bulk of the UK public as a terrorist threat to the uk. i dont think the actions of a few far right nutters can be put on the british public
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Post by Vinny on Nov 4, 2024 9:27:53 GMT
The fact some immigrant groups are clearly hostile creates a problem for the multicultural idealism. Their solution is to try to cast the bulk of the UK public as a terrorist threat to the uk. i dont think the actions of a few far right nutters can be put on the british public The Islamist far right are the biggest problem. On balance they're most likely to build bombs, use knives, guns, abuse, bully, terrorise.... And who do you think the majority of heroin dealers are in cities? Islamofascist thugs who have complete and total disdain for the natives and not much respect for anyone else either.
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Post by Orac on Nov 4, 2024 9:28:00 GMT
The fact some immigrant groups are clearly hostile creates a problem for the multicultural idealism. Their solution is to try to cast the bulk of the UK public as a terrorist threat to the uk. i dont think the actions of a few far right nutters can be put on the british public When you say 'far right' I have no idea what might being going on in your head. Are you talking about politically violent people or people with certain beliefs? What beliefs? The trouble you will have is that either you will either cast most of the UK public as far right, or you will describe a group that is so small it is of no consequence.
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 4, 2024 9:36:32 GMT
i dont think the actions of a few far right nutters can be put on the british public When you say 'far right' I have no idea what might being going on in your head. Are you talking about politically violent people or people with certain beliefs? What beliefs? The trouble you will have is that either you will either cast most of the UK public as far right, or you will describe a group that is so small it is of no consequence. it is a group that small but has consequences more i will post about.
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