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Post by borgr0 on Nov 1, 2024 14:16:42 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 4, 2024 13:17:18 GMT
Bloody ridiculous. The security services, both people and operations, should for very obvious reasons remain secret.
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Post by Vinny on Nov 4, 2024 13:42:55 GMT
Any undercover operative infiltrating the likes of the IRA would have had to look the part.
It was a terrorist organisation, it killed people.
A pacifist would have stood out like a sore thumb.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 4, 2024 18:48:26 GMT
Bloody ridiculous. The security services, both people and operations, should for very obvious reasons remain secret. Yes but lack of oversight leads to them doing what the hell they want. Some have day jobs working for papers like The Times. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 4, 2024 18:49:41 GMT
Any undercover operative infiltrating the likes of the IRA would have had to look the part. It was a terrorist organisation, it killed people. A pacifist would have stood out like a sore thumb. Do you even know the game? All you were ever told was what was reported. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 4, 2024 18:54:46 GMT
Bloody ridiculous. The security services, both people and operations, should for very obvious reasons remain secret. Yes but lack of oversight leads to them doing what the hell they want. Some have day jobs working for papers like The Times. BvL, there's a very good reason why the secret service is called, the secret service. If we're going to have public investigations and inquiries into the activities of the secret service we may as well send Putin, Xi Jinping and any other hostile actor, a programme of secret service operations. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 4, 2024 23:07:06 GMT
Yes but lack of oversight leads to them doing what the hell they want. Some have day jobs working for papers like The Times. BvL, there's a very good reason why the secret service is called, the secret service. If we're going to have public investigations and inquiries into the activities of the secret service we may as well send Putin, Xi Jinping and any other hostile actor, a programme of secret service operations. Yes well I don't think either are really hostile. It's just our bastards are hostile to them. Remember President Xi had a banquet with the queen. That was highly appreciated by China.
Back to the IRA, I confess I don't know the half of it, but what i suspect is there is a US component to the whole affair. The US is always stoking some war or other for geopolitical gain. The thing was the IRA were hardcore socialists. That's what a hardcore socialist is, like one who uses violence to achieve its aims.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Nov 5, 2024 7:54:47 GMT
The Times and MSM is having a laugh here … with their ‘faux outrage’ … “Spy hid evidence that MI5 financed and protected an IRA/terrorist assassin” … in order to get inside the top echelons of the IRA.
We have glamorised and glorified State-sponsored killing in the James Bond franchise … for decades.
…. why act surprised? … we know the depths the Murder Inc in MI5/6 will trawl to get ‘intelligence’ on the IRA … even running pedophile rings in Belfast … peddling out vulnerable young boys from the Kincora children’s home …. for sexual abuse by the nonces within UK Society … and even IRA Royalty.
Watch this video before it is removed by the Deep State that follows this Forum closely. … It’s been on YT for 9 years … and still no action on Kincora bringing the figures who were running MI5/6 at the time … complicit in sanctioning this abuse … into the dock …. to face charges …
Having the Baroness Manningham-Buller, former head of MI5 in charge of these enquiries is a hollow gesture … like putting the fox in charge of the hen house.
… no wonder we get no progress in all these enquiries … and MI5/6 gets as bad as the CIA in it’s nasty disregard for the welfare of vulnerable citizens of this country … especially women and children.
These Departments need shutting down immediately … they are a million miles away from the ideology that was epitomised in the heyday of the Connery Bond era.
… now they are just a Rogue State within our Commonwealth … an expensive ineffective waste of money … that cannot even deliver the most basic border security … to repelling and fast track removing known Religious/Immigrant/Muslim/terrorist/economic Globalist Black Rock/Vanguard/Soros Posse threats.
Not fit for purpose … shut down and lock these ‘fraudsters’ up … and prosecute the Service under ‘trade descriptions’ …. it doesn’t provide the Security that this Country needs right now.
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Post by Vinny on Nov 5, 2024 18:59:53 GMT
It was war, the IRA were killing people.     They wanted a man on the inside who didn't stick out. The only way to infiltrate a terrorist organisation and stay undercover, was for him to become one of them. Even if it meant him firing on British Soldiers to maintain his cover. It's a dirty horrible business and I'm glad the war is over. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Nov 7, 2024 8:54:28 GMT
Yes, we know … but pimping out vulnerable already damaged children in what were supposed to be Care Homes … and running homicidal assassins … just to get leverage for Intelligence and Blackmail …. crosses the line in a once civilised UK Society we thought the Establishment was interested in preserving.
…. alas … no longer. 😱☠️🌍🤯😎
We never saw James Bond pimping out kids and hiring psychopaths to kill innocent people … this rogue Deep State is at the bottom of the barrel … scraping amongst the shit … and we know it!
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Post by Vinny on Nov 7, 2024 12:34:32 GMT
Where's the evidence that Stakeknife was involved in the Kincora scandal?
Meanwhile, your beloved Putin rapes kids.
Litvinenko blew the whistle on that nonce and got murdered.
Ukrainian kids are being kidnapped from Eastern Ukraine and taken to Russia by the forces of a child raping dictator.
No comment from you at all about that at all.
I condemn the Kincora abuse scandal btw.
I condemn Cyril Smith, I condemn Edward Heath's links to Savile, I condemn Savile and anyone else like Savile.
I condemn Mandelson (friend of Epstein), Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, and every other nonce.
You are selective.
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 7, 2024 23:37:01 GMT
Bloody ridiculous. The security services, both people and operations, should for very obvious reasons remain secret. Yes but lack of oversight leads to them doing what the hell they want. Some have day jobs working for papers like The Times. Good point. I won’t condemn any of them, they are patriots, but mistakes were made like this; m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/british-intelligence-plotted-a-massacre-at-catholic-school-glenanne-gang-man-tells-film/37833358.htmlA former RUC officer has made shocking claims that British military intelligence initiated a plan to carry out a massacre at a Catholic primary school in Co Armagh in the 1970s. John Weir was a self-confessed member of the UVF's notorious Glenanne Gang. The terror gang, which included members of the security forces, was linked to 120 murders, including the attack on the Miami Showband in 1975 in which two UDR men were killed when the bomb they were planting on the group's bus blew up prematurely. Weir made the comments in new documentary Unquiet Graves: The Story Of The Glenanne Gang, which premieres in Belfast tomorrow. "The plan was to shoot up a school in Belleeks," he said, which meant the murder of young children and teachers. He said this was intended as retaliation for the Kingsmill massacre of January 1976 in which 10 Protestant workmen were shot dead by the IRA. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 9, 2024 19:58:50 GMT
Back to Stakeknife.
If you'd been in his shoes, how would you have done the job of infiltrating the IRA and staying undercover?
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Post by Totheleft on Nov 13, 2024 20:39:31 GMT
Back to Stakeknife. If you'd been in his shoes, how would you have done the job of infiltrating the IRA and staying undercover? Not sure but didnt steakknife plant bombs |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 13, 2024 20:48:13 GMT
If you're a spy inside a terrorist organisation you have to look like one of them. Condemn the IRA for making it necessary to spy on them.
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