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Post by Ripley on Nov 10, 2024 20:13:27 GMT
In American politics, when a party is thrashed at the polls, there is usually a soul-searching post mortem investigation followed by whatever modifications are deemed necessary to win next time around. Is there no sign of policy changes at the SNP? nothing major. It's business as usual from the sturgeonite clique , with the usual soundbites and carrots thrown about. The party is full of weirdos and student politicians , under the thumb of the devolutionist old guard like swinney. the serious politicians who made the snp a force to be reckoned with have either died , retired , been sidelined ,or left the party in disgust. So, no reaction from the party to the growing public support for independence, then? How disturbing. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 11, 2024 8:12:17 GMT
nothing major. It's business as usual from the sturgeonite clique , with the usual soundbites and carrots thrown about. The party is full of weirdos and student politicians , under the thumb of the devolutionist old guard like swinney. the serious politicians who made the snp a force to be reckoned with have either died , retired , been sidelined ,or left the party in disgust. So, no reaction from the party to the growing public support for independence, then? How disturbing. absolutely none. since the last referendum in 2014 , they have had 5 differing mandates from winning Scottish seats at Westminster , and winning at Holyrood , before we even mention the brexit referendum , and sturgeon and her acolytes for some strange reason have spurned all of them. When it was suggested they go down the route of forgetting another referendum , as westminster wouldn't agree, and concentrate on standing on a mandate at an election to take scotland. out the uk , they also ignored that , and said no , they must go down the referendum route knowing full well it was never going to happen. The result? in the last Scottish election for Westminster earlier this year , we had the second lowest Scottish turnout in modern history , where loads indy voters sat at home in disgust , and labour snuck in with hundreds of thousands of votes less than gordon browns vote tally in scotland in 2010. No one knows whats going on .........the rumour mill is in overdrive , and the nu SNP leadership is more interested in identity politics ,than independence. |
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Post by morayloon on Nov 11, 2024 23:30:18 GMT
A lamentable state of affairs. Why, in your opinion, did more voters not switch from SNP to Alba? And what will become of Alba now? What has to happen in order for independence to be realized? I dont think switching to alba was a credible approach at the minute under the fptp westmsinter election. You see yourself how long it takes established parties to play the dodgy electoral system , so many scot indy voters statyed at home , which then allowed labour to steal in as other parties votes dropped past them. This might change at the next Holyrood election under the proportional system .Im not sure. Im dont think without the gravitas of salmond Alba are going anywhere as things stand. I could be wrong. I do like ash regan and some of the other members in the party like Chris mc Eleny . first step in my opinion is smashing the nuSNP . Chris McEleney has gone down in my estimation, T. I have been reading James Kelly's blogs for years, and, over the last few months, I have become disillusioned by Alba and McEleney's attitude towards him. Kelly criticised McEleney and the party over its draconian disciplinary methods. Kelly himself has been suspended, it seems, on a whim, by McEleney. The whole saga really smacks of how the SNP dealt with internal criticism. My continued membership of Alba hangs in the balance. |
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Post by borgr0 on Nov 11, 2024 23:37:25 GMT
Wow I'm sorry to hear all this
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Post by Vinny on Nov 12, 2024 7:56:08 GMT
And yet the racist SNATS have been clobbered and sacked. Change the methodology of polling use leading questions to destroy the SNAT case and then use a referendum based on a leading question to abolish devolution. Put Scotland into the same legal and tax system as England. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 7:58:45 GMT
I dont think switching to alba was a credible approach at the minute under the fptp westmsinter election. You see yourself how long it takes established parties to play the dodgy electoral system , so many scot indy voters statyed at home , which then allowed labour to steal in as other parties votes dropped past them. This might change at the next Holyrood election under the proportional system .Im not sure. Im dont think without the gravitas of salmond Alba are going anywhere as things stand. I could be wrong. I do like ash regan and some of the other members in the party like Chris mc Eleny . first step in my opinion is smashing the nuSNP . Chris McEleney has gone down in my estimation, T. I have been reading James Kelly's blogs for years, and, over the last few months, I have become disillusioned by Alba and McEleney's attitude towards him. Kelly criticised McEleney and the party over its draconian disciplinary methods. Kelly himself has been suspended, it seems, on a whim, by McEleney. The whole saga really smacks of how the SNP dealt with internal criticism. My continued membership of Alba hangs in the balance. im not an Alba member moray , so dont know enough about the internal workings of the party . Ive read a bit here and there , and the complaints various folk have made about the party's inner workings , so I take on board what you are saying. I too have read Kellys blog for years as you know , but lets be honest here moray. Wee James Kelly is a whiny wee cunt constantly punting victimhood and having the piss taken out of him by all and sundry. He appears to know his stuff about polling , but thats it. How many time has he ( another one) flounced off in a huff , he spent years being a drama queen with Stuart Campbell for example , and it was only a few months back I read someone ask ( piss taking) if he was still in (covid) isolation . I think from what ive heard mc Eleny (and many others) cant be arsed with all his constant drama , but im sure you know more than me. Ive said a few times now I do wonder how Alba will carry on without salmonds gravitas and leadership. Typical Scottish as we have seen all through history. Without a firm guiding hand , we spend more time fighting like fuck among ourselves than fighting for our country. We certainly though dont need identity politics and drama queens. That mike small of bella is another one I cant be arsed with. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 12, 2024 9:39:34 GMT
Oh dear. SNAT triggered.
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 9:44:41 GMT
vinny trolling the scot threads yet again because he cant engage in debate, and doesn't understand what the big words in the post mean.
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Post by Vinny on Nov 12, 2024 9:46:56 GMT
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 10:00:36 GMT
When my Uncle Eddie was going to the toilet he always said I'm off to the plop shop. We always laughed. Thanks vinny for your input. I suppose you need to get geared up falling back to frothing about scotland now trump is going to stop the Ukraine war. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 12, 2024 10:04:41 GMT
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Post by Orac on Nov 12, 2024 22:22:30 GMT
Thread locked on request of creator
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