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Post by zanygame on Nov 4, 2024 20:58:34 GMT
There is plenty of coal that could be mined No you can't. You have to dig a very deep hole to get coal and we don't have much left so we do have to buy it off someone else. Probably all been said. Renewables are better than fossils in so many ways now, cheaper, local, clean. There is plenty of coal that could be dug up from open cast mining... In the UK? |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 4, 2024 21:00:36 GMT
Where did you get the 5% from. Last year only 27% came from fossil fuels Generation by type Fossil fuels 27.9 Renewables 38.1 Other sources 21.9 I said 'currently' Ah I see. Lucky break for you. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 4, 2024 21:05:55 GMT
We have a 500 foot hill in our town. Every year there is a big party on the top of it. People come from all over the country to this party, and this year I was there with my Italian woman. At the bottom of the hill it was beautifully hot and sunny and had been all day and not a puff of wind. By the time you get to the top of the hill and the sun has gone down it is a completely different story, so someone like myself looked rather stupid at the bottom of the hill, and well over dressed. the non locals went up wearing just tee-shirts. A few hours later they looked like the stupid ones and not me. No wind at the bottom, but almost blowing a gale at the top. It catches em out every year, hehe! Yes - I understand weather can vary from place to place. As pac points out, sometimes in the uk it doesn't vary very much at all - for a week. Do you understand that the wind almost never stops blowing in the North sea |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 4, 2024 21:25:05 GMT
No you can't. You have to dig a very deep hole to get coal and we don't have much left so we do have to buy it off someone else. Probably all been said. Renewables are better than fossils in so many ways now, cheaper, local, clean. You have to do something to turn any energy in nature into useful work. It's the 'doing something or you don't get it' property that makes it not free. If you tell people wind energy is free, naive people will expect it to be arbitrarily cheap - "if you get it for free, why can't you pass it on to me for free?" I've already explained this. |
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Post by wapentake on Nov 4, 2024 22:07:42 GMT
Yo don't have to buy coal off someone else either - it's in nature. You can collect it for 'free' in the same sense. If you can't quite grock what i'm saying here I will leave it - it's not that vital No you can't. You have to dig a very deep hole to get coal and we don't have much left so we do have to buy it off someone else. Probably all been said. Renewables are better than fossils in so many ways now, cheaper, local, clean. The UK has identified hard coal resources of 3 560 million tonnes, although total resources could be as large as 187 billion tonnes. About 80 million tonnes of the economically recoverable reserves are available in shallow deposits capable of being extracted by surface mining. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 4, 2024 22:24:11 GMT
No you can't. You have to dig a very deep hole to get coal and we don't have much left so we do have to buy it off someone else. Probably all been said. Renewables are better than fossils in so many ways now, cheaper, local, clean. The UK has identified hard coal resources of 3 560 million tonnes, although total resources could be as large as 187 billion tonnes. About 80 million tonnes of the economically recoverable reserves are available in shallow deposits capable of being extracted by surface mining. Interesting , can I read the link. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 4, 2024 22:30:40 GMT
Ah I see. Lucky break for you. Well as you totally missed the point perhaps not so lucky. So currently wind is providing 6.5% of the UK's energy - Gas is an impressive 61%. |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 4, 2024 22:31:06 GMT
There is plenty of coal that could be mined There is plenty of coal that could be dug up from open cast mining... In the UK? Yep...As of November 2023, there are no legally operating opencast coal mines in the UK: Ffos-y-fran: The UK's largest opencast coal mine, located in Merthyr Tydfil, South Wales, closed in November 2023. The mine's planning permission expired in September 2022, and the company's appeal for more time was denied by the local council. The company did not set aside enough money to restore the land, and the estimated cost of restoration is between £120 million and £175 million. Glan Lash: An opencast coal mine in Carmarthenshire, South Wales, whose extension application was rejected in September 2023. Wales' last opencast coal mine proposal: Rejected in a historic decision. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 4, 2024 22:37:20 GMT
Ah I see. Lucky break for you. Well as you totally missed the point perhaps not so lucky. So currently wind is providing 6.5% of the UK's energy - Gas is an impressive 61%. I don't need to pick my days, in the last year. Coal 0.9% Gas 26.9% Solar 5.1% Wind 31.6%Hydroelectric 1.4% Nuclear 14.7 % Biomass 7.2% |
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Post by wapentake on Nov 4, 2024 22:39:32 GMT
The UK has identified hard coal resources of 3 560 million tonnes, although total resources could be as large as 187 billion tonnes. About 80 million tonnes of the economically recoverable reserves are available in shallow deposits capable of being extracted by surface mining. Interesting , can I read the link. Try google |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 4, 2024 22:52:27 GMT
Well as you totally missed the point perhaps not so lucky. So currently wind is providing 6.5% of the UK's energy - Gas is an impressive 61%. I don't need to pick my days, in the last year. Coal 0.9% Gas 26.9% Solar 5.1% Wind 31.6%Hydroelectric 1.4% Nuclear 14.7 % Biomass 7.2% ..and again, you are totally missing the point. |
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Post by Orac on Nov 5, 2024 7:53:40 GMT
Yes - I understand weather can vary from place to place. As pac points out, sometimes in the uk it doesn't vary very much at all - for a week. Do you understand that the wind almost never stops blowing in the North sea You need to look back in the conversation to see how consequentially irrelevant this observation is If it is still for a day we would still (pardon the pun) have a problem |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 5, 2024 8:22:20 GMT
Currently wind providing 3.8% of our energy needs.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 5, 2024 8:24:06 GMT
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Post by zanygame on Nov 5, 2024 18:45:48 GMT
Interesting , can I read the link. Try google why? surely a link to what you post would far more accurately represent your claim. |
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