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Post by Bentley on Nov 18, 2024 20:41:11 GMT
I never said they did . Polluted air isn’t exhaust gases . Evs probably make more tyre pollution than equivalent ICE cars because they tend to be heavier . Manufacturing produces polluted air . All these things and more produce polluted air . Your lame attempt at strawmen do not refute this. Polluted air is exhaust gases. Benzene
While there are other hydrocarbons present in vehicle exhaust gases, the most prevalent and dangerous of them is benzene (chemical formula: C6H6). Benzene is a liquid that vaporises really easily, creating fumes. It has a sweet smell, making it easy to detect. Sulphur Dioxide
Sulphur dioxide (chemical formula: SO2) is another gas with a distinctive smell, making it easy to identify and detect. It is created during volcanic activity, which is why it’s found in higher concentrations around volcanoes. When inhaled, this exhaust fume gas will irritate your nasal passage, throat, and airways. Soot
Funnily enough, it’s tiny particles of carbon, when inhaled, the particles are small enough to get inside your lungs and bloodstream. Once inside, they can affect your heart and lungs, leading to heart attacks, bronchitis, asthma, strokes, and more. Almost 2,000 times more particle pollution is produced by tyre wear than is pumped out of the exhausts of modern cars, tests have shown. The tyre particles pollute air, water and soil and contain a wide range of toxic organic compounds, including known carcinogens, the analysts say, suggesting tyre pollution could rapidly become a major issue for regulators |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 18, 2024 20:59:36 GMT
Polluted air is exhaust gases. Benzene
While there are other hydrocarbons present in vehicle exhaust gases, the most prevalent and dangerous of them is benzene (chemical formula: C6H6). Benzene is a liquid that vaporises really easily, creating fumes. It has a sweet smell, making it easy to detect. Sulphur Dioxide
Sulphur dioxide (chemical formula: SO2) is another gas with a distinctive smell, making it easy to identify and detect. It is created during volcanic activity, which is why it’s found in higher concentrations around volcanoes. When inhaled, this exhaust fume gas will irritate your nasal passage, throat, and airways. Soot
Funnily enough, it’s tiny particles of carbon, when inhaled, the particles are small enough to get inside your lungs and bloodstream. Once inside, they can affect your heart and lungs, leading to heart attacks, bronchitis, asthma, strokes, and more. Almost 2,000 times more particle pollution is produced by tyre wear than is pumped out of the exhausts of modern cars, tests have shown. The tyre particles pollute air, water and soil and contain a wide range of toxic organic compounds, including known carcinogens, the analysts say, suggesting tyre pollution could rapidly become a major issue for regulators We should ban tyres as well as petrol and diesels cars |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 18, 2024 21:10:45 GMT
Almost 2,000 times more particle pollution is produced by tyre wear than is pumped out of the exhausts of modern cars, tests have shown. The tyre particles pollute air, water and soil and contain a wide range of toxic organic compounds, including known carcinogens, the analysts say, suggesting tyre pollution could rapidly become a major issue for regulators We should ban tyres as well as petrol and diesels cars Translation . You have no argument. You can’t quantify the level of exhaust gas pollution . You can’t bring yourself to admit EVs create a significant air pollution through their tyres . So you throw a little strop |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 18, 2024 21:15:41 GMT
We should ban tyres as well as petrol and diesels cars Translation . You have no argument. You can’t quantify the level of exhaust gas pollution . You can’t bring yourself to admit EVs create a significant air pollution through their tyres . So you throw a little strop Nope, the claim is we should stop EV's because of tyre pollution, but we shouldn't ban ICE cars because of tyre pollution or carbon burning pollution. I think its called bigotry. |
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Post by sandypine on Nov 18, 2024 21:17:52 GMT
We do not know how many deaths will occur, it increases risk whereas all other legislation is to decrease risk. The fumes one is partially controlled by Emission zones and no doubt Khan will have to hand that he saved millions of lives. It is a relevant point though but it is in the realms of unknown as far as I can see as the emissions are in part controlled by punitive costs on high emitters and the emissions from the EVs power are made somewhere else currently. PS I should have added but forgot that the legislation in question deals with road safety issues as opposed to fumes and emissions. That's very specific. What specifically are you referring to. You referred to tyre regulations and I am pointing out that any tyre regulation is to enhance safety, the EV legislation is not to deal with road safety but has a negative effect on it which is contrary to all legislation that deals with motor vehicles and their interaction with the public. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 18, 2024 21:20:37 GMT
Translation . You have no argument. You can’t quantify the level of exhaust gas pollution . You can’t bring yourself to admit EVs create a significant air pollution through their tyres . So you throw a little strop Nope, the claim is we should stop EV's because of tyre pollution, but we shouldn't ban ICE cars because of tyre pollution or carbon burning pollution. I think it’s called bigotry. Who claimed we should stop EV's because of tyre pollution? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 18, 2024 21:45:26 GMT
Action is better than speak though. You might like to post one of your demos of a British flying car. It is what convinces me. Some have to post about a British flying car to refute this bullshit “It's not and there is more shit on your average British pavement than there is in China, which is for the most part spotless with rubbish collected 3x a day. In major cities there are thousands of miles of green ways. You might not know what one is being British, but hey, you look at propaganda which is years out of date.” I get my information from all sorts of places. Here's an interview with a tech insider. This is his view on US sanctions, chips and EVs. I found it very interesting, but I suppose it is too complicated for the likes of you.
Go on, have a rant about how he is a CCP stooge with CCP propaganda.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 18, 2024 21:53:15 GMT
Some have to post about a British flying car to refute this bullshit “It's not and there is more shit on your average British pavement than there is in China, which is for the most part spotless with rubbish collected 3x a day. In major cities there are thousands of miles of green ways. You might not know what one is being British, but hey, you look at propaganda which is years out of date.” I get my information from all sorts of places. Here's an interview with a tech insider. This is his view on US sanctions, chips and EVs. I found it very interesting, but I suppose it is too complicated for the likes of you.
Go on, have a rant about how he is a CCP stooge with CCP propaganda.
Still deflecting . You post a video of a flying car to deflect your bullshit about a spotless China then you post another video to deflect from that . lol. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 18, 2024 22:34:04 GMT
I get my information from all sorts of places. Here's an interview with a tech insider. This is his view on US sanctions, chips and EVs. I found it very interesting, but I suppose it is too complicated for the likes of you.
Go on, have a rant about how he is a CCP stooge with CCP propaganda.
Still deflecting . You post a video of a flying car to deflect your bullshit about a spotless China then you post another video to deflect from that . lol. It wasn't bullshit. I had just had enough of talking about dirty streets. Anyway, the car was dead cool and it is a runner as well. That was their airshow. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 18, 2024 22:43:24 GMT
Still deflecting . You post a video of a flying car to deflect your bullshit about a spotless China then you post another video to deflect from that . lol. It wasn't bullshit. I had just had enough of talking about dirty streets. Anyway, the car was dead cool and it is a runner as well. That was their airshow. Yeah . Have you got any Charlie Chan videos to deflect from your bullshit about a spotless China . If you have then I’ll probably ignore those too. Anyway here’s a thing .I never saw one fly in Hong Kong Disneyland and we arrived in Hong Kong hours after they had the biggest Typhoon in memory . The airport was functioning and all the roads were open . Im a great admirer of the Chinese and their work ethic . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 18, 2024 23:29:37 GMT
It wasn't bullshit. I had just had enough of talking about dirty streets. Anyway, the car was dead cool and it is a runner as well. That was their airshow. Yeah . Have you got any Charlie Chan videos to deflect from your bullshit about a spotless China . If you have then I’ll probably ignore those too. Anyway here’s a thing .I never saw one fly in Hong Kong Disneyland and we arrived in Hong Kong hours after they had the biggest Typhoon in memory . The airport was functioning and all the roads were open . Im a great admirer of the Chinese and their work ethic . Well I have just listened to Starmer's address to President Xi. Blighty looks like it is on track for some good joint business ventures. This could be better than many would expect. You see the EU is falling out with them big-time, so FDI might flow out of the EU and into the UK. It could be kind of funny, given the shit I hear daily from those who want to rejoin the EU. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 18, 2024 23:48:22 GMT
Yeah . Have you got any Charlie Chan videos to deflect from your bullshit about a spotless China . If you have then I’ll probably ignore those too. Anyway here’s a thing .I never saw one fly in Hong Kong Disneyland and we arrived in Hong Kong hours after they had the biggest Typhoon in memory . The airport was functioning and all the roads were open . Im a great admirer of the Chinese and their work ethic . Well I have just listened to Starmer's address to President Xi. Blighty looks like it is on track for some good joint business ventures. This could be better than many would expect. You see the EU is falling out with them big-time, so FDI might flow out of the EU and into the UK. It could be kind of funny, given the shit I hear daily from those who want to rejoin the EU. Let’s face it .China is the future and the US wants to make “America great again” not” America and the UK great again” . The US, EU and China want to shaft us Maybe China is the only one who will use lubrication and still love us in the morning 😁 |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 19, 2024 0:02:35 GMT
Well I have just listened to Starmer's address to President Xi. Blighty looks like it is on track for some good joint business ventures. This could be better than many would expect. You see the EU is falling out with them big-time, so FDI might flow out of the EU and into the UK. It could be kind of funny, given the shit I hear daily from those who want to rejoin the EU. Let’s face it .China is the future and the US wants to make “America great again” not” America and the UK great again” . The US, EU and China want to shaft us Maybe China is the only one who will use lubrication and still love us in the morning 😁 The BBC just ran a report as well and added in some comment from the Chinese side. It's looking like a success and we just have to hope Starmer hates Trump enough so he refuses to be drawn into the US sanction war. President Xi is talking about financial services as well. I think the idea is Chinese corporations want to delist from Wall Street, and they would rather like it if the UK would serve as a friendly country to set up their financial operations. If Trump is going to act the arsehole towards us, we might as well beat them. Another area is cooperation in science. AI is particularly important if you want to revive UK manufacturing. You need the AI to drive the robots. The UK is 3rd in the world and China is second. You get the idea. Reeves will be going over there to chat with their economics minister. Hopefully they will tutor her in how to run our economy properly. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 19, 2024 0:08:09 GMT
Let’s face it .China is the future and the US wants to make “America great again” not” America and the UK great again” . The US, EU and China want to shaft us Maybe China is the only one who will use lubrication and still love us in the morning 😁 The BBC just ran a report as well and added in some comment from the Chinese side. It's looking like a success and we just have to hope Starmer hates Trump enough so he refuses to be drawn into the US sanction war. President Xi is talking about financial services as well. I think the idea is Chinese corporations want to delist from Wall Street, and they would rather like it if the UK would serve as a friendly country to set up their financial operations. If Trump is going to act the arsehole towards us, we might as well beat them. Another area is cooperation in science. AI is particularly important if you want to revive UK manufacturing. You need the AI to drive the robots. The UK is 3rd in the world and China is second. You get the idea. Reeves will be going over there to chat with their economics minister. Hopefully they will tutor her in how to run our economy properly. Starmer has Marxist roots . Imo he would be far more comfortable with XI than Trump or von der Leyen. Interesting times . If Xi offers to build the infrastructure for UK net zero can you see Starmer turning that down ? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 19, 2024 0:14:24 GMT
The BBC just ran a report as well and added in some comment from the Chinese side. It's looking like a success and we just have to hope Starmer hates Trump enough so he refuses to be drawn into the US sanction war. President Xi is talking about financial services as well. I think the idea is Chinese corporations want to delist from Wall Street, and they would rather like it if the UK would serve as a friendly country to set up their financial operations. If Trump is going to act the arsehole towards us, we might as well beat them. Another area is cooperation in science. AI is particularly important if you want to revive UK manufacturing. You need the AI to drive the robots. The UK is 3rd in the world and China is second. You get the idea. Reeves will be going over there to chat with their economics minister. Hopefully they will tutor her in how to run our economy properly. Starmer has Marxist roots . Imo he would be far more comfortable with XI than Trump or von der Leyen. Interesting times . If Xi offers to build the infrastructure for UK net zero can you see Starmer turning that down ? Indeed, and as this is going on, von der Leyen is kicking up fresh shit, telling the EU that it is cheaper to import LNG from the US than it is to get it from Russia. This is against the fact the US was charging 4x the price. Thank god we are out of it. President Xi also probably has a fondness towards Lammy for saying Trump is a Nazi. |
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