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Post by Bentley on Nov 11, 2024 16:14:51 GMT
BTW I meant to note that Tesla guarantees its batteries (and motors) for 100,000 or 150,000 miles, depending on model. “Yes, Tesla guarantees that its batteries will retain at least 70% of their capacity for eight years or up to a certain mileage whichever comes first:” This warranty lasts for eight years or 100,000–150,000 miles, whichever comes first, depending on the model of the vehicle.” google. It’s a start but no cigar . Tesla are eye watering expensive too. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 11, 2024 16:16:33 GMT
excellent. Let the forum know how it goes won't you? By the way , when you have a moment can you go over to the Scottish thread and qualify the Starkey comment on the language thread please.? |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 11, 2024 16:17:11 GMT
A Q8 is hardly a 'shit box'. Neither are the expensive top-of-the-range Audis, BMWs and Mercedes that ethnic 'businessmen' tend to favour. Not just ‘ ethnic businessmen’ . However of yiu are trying to move the goalposts to expensive ICE cars you are too late . Zany got there first . |
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Post by jonksy on Nov 11, 2024 16:18:04 GMT
BTW I meant to note that Tesla guarantees its batteries (and motors) for 100,000 or 150,000 miles, depending on model. “Yes, Tesla guarantees that its batteries will retain at least 70% of their capacity for eight years or up to a certain mileage whichever comes first:” This warranty lasts for eight years or 100,000–150,000 miles, whichever comes first, depending on the model of the vehicle.” google. It’s a start but no cigar . Tesla are eye watering expensive too. MAC trucks in the USA garantee their vehicles for a million miles provided they are kept up to scratch.. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 11, 2024 16:20:55 GMT
“Yes, Tesla guarantees that its batteries will retain at least 70% of their capacity for eight years or up to a certain mileage whichever comes first:” This warranty lasts for eight years or 100,000–150,000 miles, whichever comes first, depending on the model of the vehicle.” google. It’s a start but no cigar . Tesla are eye watering expensive too. MAC trucks in the USA garantee their vehicles for a million miles provided they are kept up to scratch.. Indeed. A reasonably expensive petrol or diesel should last 200000 plus . My old diesel BMW had 150000 miles on the clock and ran perfectly. However I set the standard of 100000 miles and Dan pointed out a candidate . |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 11, 2024 16:21:01 GMT
BTW I meant to note that Tesla guarantees its batteries (and motors) for 100,000 or 150,000 miles, depending on model. “Yes, Tesla guarantees that its batteries will retain at least 70% of their capacity for eight years or up to a certain mileage whichever comes first:” This warranty lasts for eight years or 100,000–150,000 miles, whichever comes first, depending on the model of the vehicle.” google. It’s a start but no cigar . Tesla are eye watering expensive too. Not all of them. The volume sellers Model 3 and Y are priced competitively. The Models S and X are much more expensive but then so are Range Rovers and other marques they compete against. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 11, 2024 16:25:01 GMT
“Yes, Tesla guarantees that its batteries will retain at least 70% of their capacity for eight years or up to a certain mileage whichever comes first:” This warranty lasts for eight years or 100,000–150,000 miles, whichever comes first, depending on the model of the vehicle.” google. It’s a start but no cigar . Tesla are eye watering expensive too. Not all of them. The volume sellers Model 3 and Y are priced competitively. The Models S and X are much more expensive but then so are Range Rovers and other marques they compete against. If you say so “The Tesla Model 3 has a RRP range of £39,990 to £59,990. At 3 miles per kWh, charged to the recommended 80% max, and with around 77kwh battery you'll get 3 x 0.8 x 77 = 185 miles. It’s shit tbh. A 30 grand ICE car will have a range over 500 miles and refuelled in minutes plus an engine that should last 200000 miles |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 11, 2024 16:46:01 GMT
I realise the Model 3 might not meet your personal expectations but it seems to be the answer to many driver's requirements. Its close relation the Model Y (mechanically and electrically identical, different body shape) was the best-selling car in Europe in 2023.
Your 3 miles per kWh seems rather low, where did you get that number? Tesla claim 13.2 km/kWh.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 11, 2024 16:49:08 GMT
I realise the Model 3 might not meet your personal expectations but it seems to be the answer to many driver's requirements. Its close relation the Model Y (mechanically and electrically identical, different body shape) was the best-selling car in Europe in 2023. Not mine . It’s clearly inferior to less expensive ICE cars . |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 11, 2024 16:51:29 GMT
But then ICE cars don't deliver the same psychic benefits like saving the planet and not sending any more money to corrupt Arabs or Nigerians.
Horses for courses.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 11, 2024 16:56:16 GMT
But then ICE cars don't deliver the same psychic benefits like saving the planet and not sending any more money to corrupt Arabs or Nigerians. Horses for courses. Well if for those buying an EV it gives them a lovely warm feeling inside and the ability to virtue signal then they might be worth every penny . For the ones who look for practically in a vehicle they ( for now) are not. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 11, 2024 17:03:19 GMT
And of course if EVs are too expensive or too hard to deal with that'll mean far fewer vehicles in total on the roads. It's all goodness.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 11, 2024 17:07:22 GMT
And of course if EVs are too expensive or too hard to deal with that'll mean far fewer vehicles in total on the roads. It's all goodness. Depends on what you think is good . If you think that the great unwashed should be forced to use public transport then travel by public transport l |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Nov 11, 2024 18:13:00 GMT
This graph here gives the cost of electricity in $/MWh.
This should cue to 10:04
UK is the highest at about 420 Germany next at 250 US 90 Russia (second lowest) 70
China (lowest) 60
How the hell do we manage to break the records in our production for the world's most expensive? What is it with the fruitcake UK?
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Post by zanygame on Nov 11, 2024 18:19:35 GMT
I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to Orac. Sorry, maybe some other time when you learn to be civil. its a debating forum , not a closed board for two people . You posted a claim on the main board , and im simply asking for proof instead of waffle. please back up what you are saying , or we can dismiss yet more of your rubbish as the usual pish we have come to expect. It is but I'm not obliged to answer you. I was letting you know you can read my answer to Orac. |
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