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Post by jonksy on Oct 23, 2024 9:10:45 GMT
I attended a council meeting last night and it was said that some pensioners in our parish missed pension credits by a pound . I’m sure they appreciate that silly old sod patronising them. They should spend everything they have and let the councils pay for their funerals. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 23, 2024 9:38:20 GMT
I know she didn't implement it, but the fact that she was contemplating it, is my point. and your point is nonsense - I could contemplate dropping an atomic bomb on Hiroshima, but that would not alter the fact that the only people who did actually drop a bomb was the USA. The triple lock was in place in 2018 - it had been for the previous 8 years. Are you saying that Labour failed to take this into account?. And every government has made an effort to increase the take up of Pension Credits - including New Labour who were no more successful than any other government. Nope, my point was absolutely valid, your dismissal of it is totally down to your Rightist bias. It is todays benefit from the triple lock that is relevant. The government claims there has been a big increase in the take up of Pension Credits. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 23, 2024 10:41:41 GMT
and your point is nonsense - I could contemplate dropping an atomic bomb on Hiroshima, but that would not alter the fact that the only people who did actually drop a bomb was the USA. The triple lock was in place in 2018 - it had been for the previous 8 years. Are you saying that Labour failed to take this into account?. And every government has made an effort to increase the take up of Pension Credits - including New Labour who were no more successful than any other government. Nope, my point was absolutely valid, your dismissal of it is totally down to your Rightist bias. It is todays benefit from the triple lock that is relevant. The government claims there has been a big increase in the take up of Pension Credits.
If so there will not be much saving for the Treasury from this policy and the Government will have killed 4000 people for nothing. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 23, 2024 13:05:17 GMT
Nope, my point was absolutely valid, your dismissal of it is totally down to your Rightist bias. It is todays benefit from the triple lock that is relevant. The government claims there has been a big increase in the take up of Pension Credits.
If so there will not be much saving for the Treasury from this policy and the Government will have killed 4000 people for nothing. Apart from your silly Rightist claim about 4,000 deaths, the estimated savings for the government is £3billion. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 23, 2024 13:17:35 GMT
and your point is nonsense - I could contemplate dropping an atomic bomb on Hiroshima, but that would not alter the fact that the only people who did actually drop a bomb was the USA. The triple lock was in place in 2018 - it had been for the previous 8 years. Are you saying that Labour failed to take this into account?. And every government has made an effort to increase the take up of Pension Credits - including New Labour who were no more successful than any other government. Nope, my point was absolutely valid, your dismissal of it is totally down to your Rightist bias. It is todays benefit from the triple lock that is relevant.
The government claims there has been a big increase in the take up of Pension Credits.It's the law of Labour economics, take £300 in winter fuel payments to save money, so now pensioners will claim Pension Credits and the £300 winter fuel payments which will cost twice as much as the savings .... and you wonder why Labour bankrupt the country, I have no idea what school of economics they were taught, all I know they have a lot to answer for. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 23, 2024 14:55:32 GMT
If so there will not be much saving for the Treasury from this policy and the Government will have killed 4000 people for nothing. Apart from your silly Rightist claim about 4,000 deaths, the estimated savings for the government is £3billion. Not my claim - the Labour Party. And the £3 Billion is based on the idea that expenditure on Pension Credit does not rise - which you have already said it will. So yet another clusterfuck... |
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Post by see2 on Oct 23, 2024 15:14:02 GMT
Apart from your silly Rightist claim about 4,000 deaths, the estimated savings for the government is £3billion. And the £3 Billion is based on the idea that expenditure on Pension Credit does not rise - which you have already said it will. So yet another clusterfuck... A different government so different outcomes. Silly silly man. If all the pensioners entitled to pension credits get the credits it won't be anywhere near one billion pounds, never mind three billion. Yes, another clusterfuck from yourself. Put your learnt bias to one side and try being objective. Your controlled thinking will then open up to a brand new world. |
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 23, 2024 15:35:55 GMT
Nope, my point was absolutely valid, your dismissal of it is totally down to your Rightist bias. It is todays benefit from the triple lock that is relevant.
The government claims there has been a big increase in the take up of Pension Credits.It's the law of Labour economics, take £300 in winter fuel payments to save money, so now pensioners will claim Pension Credits and the £300 winter fuel payments which will cost twice as much as the savings .... and you wonder why Labour bankrupt the country, I have no idea what school of economics they were taught, all I know they have a lot to answer for.
Agreed They are only just discovering that (apart from the b*lls up they've made with ''defining'' private education meaning that mixed age nursery schools are now liable for VAT amongstb other egs) private schools having to register for VAT means that these schools can now reclaim VAT paid on capital projects - apparently Eton College is in the pipeline for a nigh on £5m VAT repayment  |
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 23, 2024 15:39:13 GMT
Not my claim - the Labour Party. And the £3 Billion is based on the idea that expenditure on Pension Credit does not rise - which you have already said it will. So yet another clusterfuck... A different government so different outcomes. Silly silly man. If all the pensioners entitled to pension credits get the credits it won't be anywhere near one billion pounds, never mind three billion. Yes, another clusterfuck from yourself. Put your learnt bias to one side and try being objective. Your controlled thinking will then open up to a brand new world. Eh? Lefty definitions of OAPs freezing to death changes according to which lefty incompetent is currently leader Is it something to do with climate change? |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 23, 2024 17:49:58 GMT
Not my claim - the Labour Party. And the £3 Billion is based on the idea that expenditure on Pension Credit does not rise - which you have already said it will. So yet another clusterfuck... A different government so different outcomes. Silly silly man. If all the pensioners entitled to pension credits get the credits it won't be anywhere near one billion pounds, never mind three billion. Nonsense - the DWP have said that if everyone claimed it would cost them over £2 Billion and it also would make people eligible for other payments from different departments. So £3 Billion in payouts is quite possible. It is a prize A1 clusterfuck - of the type that is becoming increasingly common from the present shower. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 23, 2024 18:44:51 GMT
Labour's answer to economics is to tax businesses out of business and then raise taxes further to make up the shortfall in tax revenues.
Completely mad.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 23, 2024 18:55:43 GMT
Same old Labour.
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Post by see2 on Oct 23, 2024 21:15:45 GMT
Labour's answer to economics is to tax businesses out of business and then raise taxes further to make up the shortfall in tax revenues. Completely mad. They would be if they thought the way you claim ^^. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 23, 2024 21:16:53 GMT
Same old 'Dark Legend' approach ^^ |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 23, 2024 21:18:42 GMT
Same old 'Dark Legend' approach ^^ Put a sock in it you daft old superannuated leftie . |
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