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Post by jonksy on Oct 20, 2024 13:24:06 GMT
As tax-raid Budget looms... poll reveals the Conservatives are ahead on family finances for the first time since Boris was in No10..... Support for Labour's policies is in freefall as the scale of the Chancellor's Budget tax grab becomes clear. With Rachel Reeves planning a record-breaking £40 billion package of tax hikes and spending cuts, a poll has found that most voters now think the Tories would be better than Labour for their finances. It is the first time the Conservatives have been ahead since Boris Johnson was Prime Minister. Just five months ago Sir Keir Starmer's party led Rishi Sunak's Conservatives by 15 per cent on the issue. The unprecedented slump comes as Ms Reeves prepares to announce a welter of tax-raising measures in her horror-show Budget on October 30, the day before Halloween. Critics say her plans could hammer growth, paralyse the housing market and tip thousands of companies into bankruptcy. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13978241/tax-raid-Budget-poll-Conservatives-ahead-family-finances.htmlThey are complete and utter thickos, landlords are selling up in their droves, this government with its renters bill has frightened the life out of them, then we have Ed Case demanding landlords spend tens of thousands turning properties energy efficient to get a EPC certificate. These landlords are hardly breaking even, now this government want them to spend thousands on each property, then the renters bill will stop them from evicting tenants who stop paying rent, which will force them to spend thousands on legal costs to get them evicted,.
There is currently 700,000 properties lying empty in the Country, Rayner want 1.5 million built within the next 10 years, well there's nearly half of that number already built, another con job, trying to get Greenbelt land for their mates to build houses that will not be affordable to the average person, it's all backhanders and looking after their building cronies.
There is a huge office block that lies empty in Torquay, it was build for the inland revenue it could easily be turned into flats but of course that won't happen Torbay council will let it fall into disprepair until all it is fit for is demolision.. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 20, 2024 13:26:06 GMT
The transition from old labour to new labour didnt just happen in 1995. It began with kinnocks election as leader in 1983 , he began the long process that saw labour abandon many of its old "socialist policies" , his infamous battles with labours hard left militants ,abandonment of the nationalisation of certain uk industries , and of course in the late eighties ,the party changed from being anti EEC to pro EEC. So no , new labour didnt just materialise out of fresh air in 1995 . Whenever the name was first coined is largely irrelevant , the process began some 14 years before they were elected , and the baton handed from Kinnock to smith to blair . Also new labour weren't a new party starting from scratch , but merely the new face of an old party , with all the apparatus in place , and boots on the ground , to go out and campaign to get elected in a political world that was effectively a two horse race unlike now. They weren't starting from scratch . There are multiple factors involved in the rise of smaller parties like reform. Not least the behaviour of the two big mainstream parties in government. ''New'' labour was simply ''labour'' with a younger leader for the media image Voting slips just listed candidates as ''labour'' Nope, New Labour was "for the many not the few" and to use the present system for the betterment of the many. Less Leftish in some ways and more to the Right in some ways, a mixture of the Left and the Right. Which Starmer is showing with his right-wing cut to the WFA. |
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 20, 2024 13:31:19 GMT
As tax-raid Budget looms... poll reveals the Conservatives are ahead on family finances for the first time since Boris was in No10..... Support for Labour's policies is in freefall as the scale of the Chancellor's Budget tax grab becomes clear. With Rachel Reeves planning a record-breaking £40 billion package of tax hikes and spending cuts, a poll has found that most voters now think the Tories would be better than Labour for their finances. It is the first time the Conservatives have been ahead since Boris Johnson was Prime Minister. Just five months ago Sir Keir Starmer's party led Rishi Sunak's Conservatives by 15 per cent on the issue. The unprecedented slump comes as Ms Reeves prepares to announce a welter of tax-raising measures in her horror-show Budget on October 30, the day before Halloween. Critics say her plans could hammer growth, paralyse the housing market and tip thousands of companies into bankruptcy. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13978241/tax-raid-Budget-poll-Conservatives-ahead-family-finances.htmlComments from a discussion on Euro-News: About avoiding a possible recession. 1. In terms of growth .. "the world out there (outside of Europe) is cold". 2. "Greater investment is needed". }Starmer is looking to encourage further investment by seeking side by side investment, Private investment alongside of Government investment.{ 3. "Growth in Small enterprises is needed". }Starmer has said he intends to encourage small enterprises, thus increasing better employment opportunities.{ The government needs money to invest in the country's future which is why he is aiming to put the country on a better financial footing. We will all have to pay our share. It will make a change from just focusing on making the rich richer in the hope that they will invest more, which they seldom respond to. I suspect most thinking people know the UK has been existing in a financial money pit. Everyone will be called upon to share the burdon. Productive lives are more likely to be happy lives, so lets see what this government can do about it. '' All'' ? What utter BS who is this ''all'' - where are the proposals for the unearned income of total benefits packages in excess of the personal tax allowance to be properly taxed at full income tax rates? Pensioners are taxed on any income exceeding the personal allowance at full income tax rates - why should benefit scroungers escape tax free and profit from their wholly unearned tax free income? And as for the so called ''rich'' - they already pay far more than their ''share''
Top rate taxpayers now pay more than two fifths of all income tax, according to official data that lays bare how reliant Britain is on just 1m workers.Taxpayers subject to the 45p rate are expected to contribute £124bn to the Treasury’s coffers this year, according to HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) data.
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The 10% of income taxpayers with the largest incomes contribute over 60% of income tax receipts.
=============== Productive lives are more likely to be happy livesCan't believe you've posted this considering you are always so keen to mention Hitler in your posts ''Arbeit Mach Frei ''?? www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/10/13/one-million-top-taxpayers-pay-two-fifths-income-tax/commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8513/#:~:text=Income%20tax%20payments%20are%20concentrated,60%25%20of%20income%20tax%20receipts.&text=The%20Institute%20for%20Fiscal%20Studies,much%20households%20pay%20in%20tax. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 20, 2024 13:31:53 GMT
They are complete and utter thickos, landlords are selling up in their droves, this government with its renters bill has frightened the life out of them, then we have Ed Case demanding landlords spend tens of thousands turning properties energy efficient to get a EPC certificate. These landlords are hardly breaking even, now this government want them to spend thousands on each property, then the renters bill will stop them from evicting tenants who stop paying rent, which will force them to spend thousands on legal costs to get them evicted,.
There is currently 700,000 properties lying empty in the Country, Rayner want 1.5 million built within the next 10 years, well there's nearly half of that number already built, another con job, trying to get Greenbelt land for their mates to build houses that will not be affordable to the average person, it's all backhanders and looking after their building cronies.
There is a huge office block that lies empty in Torquay, it was build for the inland revenue it could easily be turned into flats but of course that won't happen Torbay council will let it fall into disprepair until all it is fit for is demolision.. Exactly, and instead of building out they should be building up, time to bring back tower blocks, that will put pay to these greedy developers want to land grab greenbelt, it's common sense which this government has none of, Dumbo Rayner and councils should be approving tower blocks, leave the greenbelt alone ..
AT 75 FLOORS, LANDMARK PINNACLE IS LONDON'S TALLEST RESIDENTIAL TOWER. STANDING FOUR-SQUARE AT THE HEAD OF SOUTH DOCK ON THE EDGE OF CANARY WHARF, THESE HOMES HAVE A UNIQUE VANTAGE POINT.
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 20, 2024 13:47:05 GMT
''New'' labour was simply ''labour'' with a younger leader for the media image Voting slips just listed candidates as ''labour'' Nope, New Labour was "for the many not the few" and to use the present system for the betterment of the many. Less Leftish in some ways and more to the Right in some ways, a mixture of the Left and the Right. Which Starmer is showing with his right-wing cut to the WFA. Kindly link the formal mechanism, dateline and administrative procedures together with copy deeds etc that you claim ended the existence of the Labour Party (est 1906) and started a new political party which you claim was called ''New Labour'' (est late 90s??) While you are at it ( I wont hold my breath as you proposition is BS ) , kindly explain with full references why no parliamentary candidate has appeared on a voting slip with ''New Labour'' rather than The Labour Party against their printed name . Removing WFA from 11m pensioners is hardly right wing - it's full blown communist ''keep the plebs in their place while the leaders get free gear/cavort with young pop stars , demand preferential treatment at sports events , boogie in top clubs DJ booths at 4am, claim thousands in heating allowance for their own housing etc etc etc all for free Labour - for the few - not the many |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 20, 2024 13:51:10 GMT
There is a huge office block that lies empty in Torquay, it was build for the inland revenue it could easily be turned into flats but of course that won't happen Torbay council will let it fall into disprepair until all it is fit for is demolision.. Exactly, and instead of building out they should be building up, time to bring back tower blocks, that will put pay to these greedy developers want to land grab greenbelt, it's common sense which this government has none of, Dumbo Rayner and councils should be approving tower blocks, leave the greenbelt alone ..
AT 75 FLOORS, LANDMARK PINNACLE IS LONDON'S TALLEST RESIDENTIAL TOWER. STANDING FOUR-SQUARE AT THE HEAD OF SOUTH DOCK ON THE EDGE OF CANARY WHARF, THESE HOMES HAVE A UNIQUE VANTAGE POINT.
I should have stated that the office block in Torquay has multiple floors.... |
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Post by thomas on Oct 20, 2024 13:54:45 GMT
The transition from old labour to new labour didnt just happen in 1995. It began with kinnocks election as leader in 1983 , he began the long process that saw labour abandon many of its old "socialist policies" , his infamous battles with labours hard left militants ,abandonment of the nationalisation of certain uk industries , and of course in the late eighties ,the party changed from being anti EEC to pro EEC. So no , new labour didnt just materialise out of fresh air in 1995 . Whenever the name was first coined is largely irrelevant , the process began some 14 years before they were elected , and the baton handed from Kinnock to smith to blair . Also new labour weren't a new party starting from scratch , but merely the new face of an old party , with all the apparatus in place , and boots on the ground , to go out and campaign to get elected in a political world that was effectively a two horse race unlike now. They weren't starting from scratch . There are multiple factors involved in the rise of smaller parties like reform. Not least the behaviour of the two big mainstream parties in government. ''New'' labour was simply ''labour'' with a younger leader for the media image Voting slips just listed candidates as ''labour'' sure , im just surprised a new labour worshipper like lefty didnt know the history of the party , and thought they magically appeared in 1995. I took 14 long years of hard graft , purging the party of the lunatic militants , and numerous volte faces over issues like Europe before the new labour transition was finally completed. Plenty have pointed out blair was simply the slimy inheritor of kinnock and smiths spade work , and blair took the glory in 1997 , but then went on to lose 4 million labour voters over the course of his three terms . |
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Post by thomas on Oct 20, 2024 13:55:45 GMT
''New'' labour was simply ''labour'' with a younger leader for the media image Voting slips just listed candidates as ''labour'' Nope, New Labour was "for the many not the few" and to use the present system for the betterment of the many. Less Leftish in some ways and more to the Right in some ways, a mixture of the Left and the Right. Which Starmer is showing with his right-wing cut to the WFA. christ not more empty soundbites. Do you never tire of posting such shite on a daily basis.? |
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Post by see2 on Oct 20, 2024 14:48:58 GMT
Nope, New Labour was "for the many not the few" and to use the present system for the betterment of the many. Less Leftish in some ways and more to the Right in some ways, a mixture of the Left and the Right. Which Starmer is showing with his right-wing cut to the WFA.
Removing WFA from 11m pensioners is hardly right wing - it's full blown communist ''keep the plebs in their place while the leaders get free gear/cavort with young pop stars , demand preferential treatment at sports events , boogie in top clubs DJ booths at 4am, claim thousands in heating allowance for their own housing etc etc etc all for free Labour - for the few - not the many Don't know who you are asking your first questions of because they have little or nothing to do with any claims I have made. I only refer to New Labour as such because that is a commonly used term. It is a completely irrelevant issue anyway. The first time I heard anything about stopping the WFA was a comment by Theresa May in the run up to the 2019 election. Old Labour wore its heart on its sleeve it would have never stopped the WFA in the way Starmer's government has. Your opinion on it is your pure anti-Labour imagination at work. The rest of your post is just claptrap. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 20, 2024 14:58:54 GMT
Nope, New Labour was "for the many not the few" and to use the present system for the betterment of the many. Less Leftish in some ways and more to the Right in some ways, a mixture of the Left and the Right. Which Starmer is showing with his right-wing cut to the WFA. christ not more empty soundbites. Do you never tire of posting such shite on a daily basis.? The problem is that when honesty and reality hits the shit between your ears you just lose it. Hard-Right Thatcher was pleased with Blair because New Labour dropped Clause 4 which called for the common ownership of Industry. |
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 20, 2024 15:20:20 GMT
Kindly link the formal mechanism, dateline and administrative procedures together with copy deeds etc that you claim ended the existence of the Labour Party (est 1906) and started a new political party which you claim was called ''New Labour'' (est late 90s??)While you are at it ( I wont hold my breath as you proposition is BS ) , kindly explain with full references why no parliamentary candidate has appeared on a voting slip with ''New Labour'' rather than The Labour Party against their printed name .
Removing WFA from 11m pensioners is hardly right wing - it's full blown communist ''keep the plebs in their place while the leaders get free gear/cavort with young pop stars , demand preferential treatment at sports events , boogie in top clubs DJ booths at 4am, claim thousands in heating allowance for their own housing etc etc etc all for free Labour - for the few - not the many Don't know who you are asking your first questions of because they have little or nothing to do with any claims I have made. I only refer to New Labour as such because that is a commonly used term. It is a completely irrelevant issue anyway. The first time I heard anything about stopping the WFA was a comment by Theresa May in the run up to the 2019 election. Old Labour wore its heart on its sleeve it would have never stopped the WFA in the way Starmer's government has. Your opinion on it is your pure anti-Labour imagination at work. The rest of your post is just claptrap. You constantly make claims about ''New Labour'' being separate and a new concept (you've even done so here in your standard failed bluster and MO at projection when caught out- if it's ''irrelevant'' why keep mentioning the term )- but as expected (and par for the course with you) cannot evidence your claims as they are pure BS. Did Theresa May cancel 11m pensions from receiving WFA? Did Boris? Did Liz Truss? Did Sunak? No? Well why are you even trying to insinuate that she did so when your heroes first action (after cancelling Rwanda) was to cancel WFA for 11m OAPs in the full knowledge that more than 4000 OAPs will die every year due to this single action ? Why do you post such easily disproved crap ? You must just be a troll or an internet bot. No-one with any working brain cells would put themselves up as an Aunt Sally to be as easily knocked down as you do - day after day |
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Post by sheepy on Oct 20, 2024 17:17:04 GMT
''New'' labour was simply ''labour'' with a younger leader for the media image Voting slips just listed candidates as ''labour'' Nope, New Labour was "for the many not the few" and to use the present system for the betterment of the many. Less Leftish in some ways and more to the Right in some ways, a mixture of the Left and the Right. Which Starmer is showing with his right-wing cut to the WFA. The many don't believe a word of it. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 20, 2024 18:42:34 GMT
Comments from a discussion on Euro-News: About avoiding a possible recession. 1. In terms of growth .. "the world out there (outside of Europe) is cold". 2. "Greater investment is needed". }Starmer is looking to encourage further investment by seeking side by side investment, Private investment alongside of Government investment.{ 3. "Growth in Small enterprises is needed". }Starmer has said he intends to encourage small enterprises, thus increasing better employment opportunities.{ The government needs money to invest in the country's future which is why he is aiming to put the country on a better financial footing. We will all have to pay our share. It will make a change from just focusing on making the rich richer in the hope that they will invest more, which they seldom respond to. I suspect most thinking people know the UK has been existing in a financial money pit. Everyone will be called upon to share the burdon. Productive lives are more likely to be happy lives, so lets see what this government can do about it. '' All'' ? What utter BS who is this ''all'' - where are the proposals for the unearned income of total benefits packages in excess of the personal tax allowance to be properly taxed at full income tax rates? Pensioners are taxed on any income exceeding the personal allowance at full income tax rates - why should benefit scroungers escape tax free and profit from their wholly unearned tax free income? And as for the so called ''rich'' - they already pay far more than their ''share''
Top rate taxpayers now pay more than two fifths of all income tax, according to official data that lays bare how reliant Britain is on just 1m workers.Taxpayers subject to the 45p rate are expected to contribute £124bn to the Treasury’s coffers this year, according to HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) data.
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The 10% of income taxpayers with the largest incomes contribute over 60% of income tax receipts.
=============== Productive lives are more likely to be happy livesCan't believe you've posted this considering you are always so keen to mention Hitler in your posts ''Arbeit Mach Frei ''?? www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/10/13/one-million-top-taxpayers-pay-two-fifths-income-tax/commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8513/#:~:text=Income%20tax%20payments%20are%20concentrated,60%25%20of%20income%20tax%20receipts.&text=The%20Institute%20for%20Fiscal%20Studies,much%20households%20pay%20in%20tax. Well said I paid NI for 50 years in order to have a State Pension, however as I saved into other Pensions as well most of my State Pension is wiped out in Tax Pensions should not be taxed full stop, that way Pensioners would have a better quality of life for their remaining years after decades of hard work |
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Post by thomas on Oct 20, 2024 19:16:48 GMT
oh dear. The exaggerating drama queen see 2 being slapped about left right and centre.
Same shit different day.
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Post by see2 on Oct 21, 2024 12:52:42 GMT
oh dear. The exaggerating drama queen see 2 being slapped about left right and centre. Same shit different day. Same ale house shit from just another ignorant one eyed Rightist ^^^ LOL |
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