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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 19, 2024 16:59:18 GMT
Labour activists campaigning for Kamala Harris in US ‘likely to break electoral law’Labour activists who travel to the US to campaign for the Democrats are likely to break electoral law, The Telegraph understands. Party staff have organised a trip for around 100 activists to campaign for Kamala Harris in North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Nevada and Virginia ahead of polling day on Nov 5. However, The Telegraph understands that current and former Labour employees who make the trip are at risk of criminal prosecution and fines, under strict rules to prevent foreign interference in elections. Under federal election law, foreign citizens can campaign in the US, providing they are not paid and have no influence on decision-making by party operatives. However, an election lawyer has warned that it is likely they would breach a separate law on campaign donations. Under the federal law, the travel expenses of a volunteer are considered a donation to the party they work for if they exceed $1,000 (£770) in one election. Lawrence Otter, a constitutional and electoral law expert, said the Harris campaign and any activist who spends more than $1,000 on the trip could end up with a “substantial” fine by the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) and any campaigning by Labour employees could also be subject to legal action by the Trump campaign. News of the plans drew criticism on Thursday from Republicans, who said it amounted to foreign interference by Labour and warned it could damage transatlantic relations if Donald Trump wins back the White House. www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/10/18/labour-activists-travel-us-campaign-kamala-likely-break-law/I have to ask, and I accept this may be a rhetorical question: Just how thick are Labour? What the hell are they playing at, can you imagine how president Trump would regard a government who openly campaigned against him? Labour aren't just thick, they're dangerous.
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Post by Bentley on Oct 19, 2024 17:02:16 GMT
I said it before and I’ll say it again . We are being led by a bunch of sixth formers .
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 19, 2024 17:39:25 GMT
It's not exactly unusual for people from the UK to go and campaign in US elections - Nigel Farage is doing the same this year.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 19, 2024 17:48:55 GMT
I said it before and I’ll say it again . We are being led by a bunch of sixth formers . Indeed, as each day passes it becomes more obvious that we have a bunch of champagne socialists and rank amateurs in government. Many of their poor decisions can be reversed, but some cant, and one of them is openly campaigning against Trump. I cant believe Labour are involving themselves in a foreign election, this is mind boggling incompetence. I hope the Federal Elections Commission do get involved and issues heavy fines. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 19, 2024 17:50:12 GMT
It's not exactly unusual for people from the UK to go and campaign in US elections - Nigel Farage is doing the same this year. Nigel Farage is not in government and he doesn't represent the government. |
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Post by honestjohn on Oct 19, 2024 18:04:40 GMT
It's not exactly unusual for people from the UK to go and campaign in US elections - Nigel Farage is doing the same this year. Remember that it is only foreign interference in an election when Russia do it, allegedly via bots on social media. 100 Labour activists from a foreign country doesn't count at all. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 19, 2024 18:07:30 GMT
It's not exactly unusual for people from the UK to go and campaign in US elections - Nigel Farage is doing the same this year. Remember that it is only foreign interference in an election when Russia do it, allegedly via bots on social media. 100 Labour activists from a foreign country doesn't count at all. A very good point . |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 22, 2024 21:20:03 GMT
Trumps lawyers files complaint against Labour. [It was only a matter of time] Donald Trump’s campaign has called for the Labour Party to be immediately investigated for “interfering” in the US Election. Lawyers for the Republican candidate and former president’s campaign team have filed a complaint about “blatant foreign interference” in the upcoming US Presidential Election, due to be held in a fortnight. Sir Keir Starmer’s party has been accused of making “illegal foreign national contributions” after reports that Labour staff members were asked if they were willing to travel to the US and “show those Yanks how to win elections”. www.standard.co.uk/news/world/donald-trump-kamala-harris-labour-party-sir-keir-starmer-us-elections-b1189457.html
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Post by sheepy on Oct 23, 2024 6:50:36 GMT
Fantasy land, Labour won purely by default, by far the majority wanted nothing to do with them, so the yanks have little to fear from Labour, the people who have most to fear are those who actually voted for them.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 23, 2024 11:30:38 GMT
Labour has made yet another misstep — and now 2 Tier Keir Starmer has a Trump problem..... There has been an ongoing joke in PMQs each week that 2 Tier Keir Starmer keeps forgetting who he is now, and calling Rishi Sunak “prime minister”. But a slip of the tongue in parliamentary exchanges is very different to causing an international incident with Donald Trump - the man who may shortly be president of Britain’s leading ally country again..... This really is something Labour should have seen coming, given Trump has been claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him for the last four years. Someone should have said: “Remember January 6!” In past elections, it has been normal for Labour members and politicians to be given time to go and help their sister party the Democrats. The same has been true about the Tories and their sister party, the Republicans......
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Oct 23, 2024 11:53:44 GMT
Fantasy land, Labour won purely by default, by far the majority wanted nothing to do with them, so the yanks have little to fear from Labour, the people who have most to fear are those who actually voted for them. It really really is a problem when Britain can only manage to produce these people to govern them. We are a failing nation. It's not Labour's fault either. Labour may well be clowns, but it's the ones who prefer clowns which is where it goes wrong. If being an intellectual made you popular in Britain then the party in power would all be intellectuals. They don't though, and it is this general preference for idiots that is causing it. |
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Post by Ripley on Oct 23, 2024 15:58:34 GMT
Trumps lawyers files complaint against Labour. [It was only a matter of time] Donald Trump’s campaign has called for the Labour Party to be immediately investigated for “interfering” in the US Election. Lawyers for the Republican candidate and former president’s campaign team have filed a complaint about “blatant foreign interference” in the upcoming US Presidential Election, due to be held in a fortnight. Sir Keir Starmer’s party has been accused of making “illegal foreign national contributions” after reports that Labour staff members were asked if they were willing to travel to the US and “show those Yanks how to win elections”. www.standard.co.uk/news/world/donald-trump-kamala-harris-labour-party-sir-keir-starmer-us-elections-b1189457.html If re-elected, Trump has already been threatening to take the US out of NATO, leaving Europe to fend for itself against Russia. He is also threatening to slap huuuuge tariffs on imports if he is re-elected. This accusation of election interference against the British government increases the risks. If he loses the election, one wonders what revenge he might exact upon Britain because of it. |
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Post by Hutchyns on Oct 23, 2024 17:40:19 GMT
Ripley For those that don't know, Trump or any other President can't single-handedly pull the United States out of NATO. In December 2023 the Annual defence policy bill passed with bipartisan support, and includes words making sure withdrawal would require substantial support.  Of course Ripley is already well aware of that as I replied to him with a link explaining it all only a few months ago   |
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Post by Ripley on Oct 23, 2024 18:24:42 GMT
Ripley For those that don't know, Trump or any other President can't single-handedly pull the United States out of NATO. In December 2023 the Annual defence policy bill passed with bipartisan support, and includes words making sure withdrawal would require substantial support. Of course Ripley is already well aware of that as I replied to him with a link explaining it all only a few months ago Yes, of course every president is constrained by the Congress and in the absence of a crystal ball, we can't know which party will control the House and/or the Senate after the next election. Given enough Congressional support, it is entirely possible that Trump could take the US out of NATO. |
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Post by dodgydave on Oct 28, 2024 0:49:43 GMT
Just remember, all these people that are saying Trump is a threat to democracy happily lied about the state of Biden's health and covered up his corruption to help him with the Presidency. To top it off, now they are backing a candidate that avoided the democratic process to become the Democrats nomination lol.
Harris is utter garbage, and everybody knows it, but they have to lie to continue the lies they told to install Biden. Why... because finger pointers cannot stand it when the finger is pointed at them so they double down on their virtue signaling to avoid scrutiny.
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