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Post by zanygame on Nov 13, 2024 10:42:20 GMT
I have to go where the parties are held. Needs must The fucking trouble is you come back... Its exhausting Jonsky, I need to rest sometimes.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 13, 2024 10:42:34 GMT
Unless you are saying that market towns will be cleared and the residents forced to live in cities then there will be people living in the countryside l Unless you are saying that robots will roam the countryside then people will need transport to work in the small farms and buildings dotted around the roads and lanes . There are plans to build houses around most of the villages in East Anglia afaik . The government seems to want MORE people living in rural areas not less. Your speculation might happen but there again a time machine might be invented. Both are unlikely soon. Surely you're not expecting me to launch into a defence of the housing policies of successive British governments?
As for 'clearings' and 'forcings' you've obviously been paying very little attention to what I have actually written in this thread rather than what you appear to want to believe I wrote.
I’m not expecting anything. You posted “We shouldn't rule out the possibility that the countryside may become largely depopulated, at least far as the working age (non-agricultural) population is concerned.” I am merely pointing out that you are wrong and yes I’ve read what you posted since .
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 13, 2024 10:44:12 GMT
Every street in the UK has light poles to which charging booms could be attached. I believe somebody, perhaps Zany, posted a picture of some already installed in the Netherlands.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 13, 2024 10:45:03 GMT
I know you've come late to the conversation Handyman. So a resume. No one claimed a block of flats would have charging points. I said in that situation the owner would have to drive to a charging station. Jonsky claimed they would have to drive 20 just to charge the car. I pointed out no block of flats is 20 miles from a charger as they are all in towns. On your other points, boom chargers are now being allowed on streets across the EU, I fully expect the UK to follow suit. We haven't got the room for them in the UK and it is still illegall to have cables strewn across a public sidewalk in the UK if someone goes arse over tit on one...
Although it's not illegal to run an EV cable across a pavement, if it causes injuries to a pedestrian then the owner can be found liable and may be prosecuted. Running a cable over a path poses a potential hazard for pedestrians who may trip over the wires and injure themselves, which could lead to legal action.
Come on, I even gave you a picture, you must be up to Janet and John level and can look at pictures. The boom fixes to your terrace house. Its carries your charging cable 8 feet above the pavement and then down to you car.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 13, 2024 10:47:34 GMT
Every street in the UK has light poles to which charging booms could be attached. I believe somebody, perhaps Zany, posted a picture of some already installed in the Netherlands. The ones I'm talking about attach to your house, they are your own private charger. They swing out over the pavement and drop down over your car.
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Post by thomas on Nov 13, 2024 10:50:08 GMT
Every street in the UK has light poles to which charging booms could be attached. I believe somebody, perhaps Zany, posted a picture of some already installed in the Netherlands. your arguments seem to be lagging behind everyone else by months. Yep we are well aware of the street lighting ev charging solution , which again has many pitfalls. For example , cowcaddens in Glasgow , hill st , four-story high tenement flat either side , sporadic street lighting , meaning too few charging points for the amount of houses and ev cars. Again , major hassle , inconvenience , not to mention relying on charging costs away from home where you can access the cheaper night rate with your energy company.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 13, 2024 10:50:16 GMT
The fucking trouble is you come back... Its exhausting Jonsky, I need to rest sometimes. Maybe euthanasia would help. It would give us all a good rest...
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Post by thomas on Nov 13, 2024 10:52:00 GMT
Every street in the UK has light poles to which charging booms could be attached. I believe somebody, perhaps Zany, posted a picture of some already installed in the Netherlands. The ones I'm talking about attach to your house, they are your own private charger. They swing out over the pavement and drop down over your car. as we found out though , they dont work in large blocks of flats , or at best , would provide too few charging stations for too many ev cars belonging to residents. Inconvenience and cost.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 13, 2024 10:54:21 GMT
The EV enthusiasts have plenty of ideas how things might be in the future . Full marks for a fertile imagination but what they seem to have missed is that the ones who are cynical about EVs are pointing out the problems that are around NOW.
Any speculation about what might be is just that speculation.
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 13, 2024 10:55:43 GMT
Every street in the UK has light poles to which charging booms could be attached. I believe somebody, perhaps Zany, posted a picture of some already installed in the Netherlands. your arguments seem to be lagging behind everyone else by months. Yep we are well aware of the street lighting ev charging solution , which again has many pitfalls. For example , cowcaddens in Glasgow , hill st , four-story high tenement flat either side , sporadic street lighting , meaning too few charging points for the amount of houses and ev cars. Again , major hassle , inconvenience , not to mention relying on charging costs away from home where you can access the cheaper night rate with your energy company. I'll drop a note to Elon Musk to let him know that Cowcaddens is not an optimal location for a new Tesla Center in Glasgow since the inhabitants are unlikely to be serious prospects for his cars.
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Post by thomas on Nov 13, 2024 10:57:53 GMT
your arguments seem to be lagging behind everyone else by months. Yep we are well aware of the street lighting ev charging solution , which again has many pitfalls. For example , cowcaddens in Glasgow , hill st , four-story high tenement flat either side , sporadic street lighting , meaning too few charging points for the amount of houses and ev cars. Again , major hassle , inconvenience , not to mention relying on charging costs away from home where you can access the cheaper night rate with your energy company. I'll drop a note to Elon Musk to let him know that Cowcaddens is not an optimal location for a new Tesla Center in Glasgow since the inhabitants are unlikely to be serious prospects for his cars. Thats ok dan , I accept your latest surrender , and appreciate all you have left is diverting onto nonsensical rubbish when out of your comfort zone of bleating about black and brown people.
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Post by thomas on Nov 13, 2024 11:01:30 GMT
The EV enthusiasts have plenty of ideas how things might be in the future . Full marks for a fertile imagination but what they seem to have missed is that the ones who are cynical about EVs are pointing out the problems that are around NOW. Any speculation about what might be is just that speculation. I wouldn't even call dan an EV enthusiast though Bentley. Zany is , bless him , his heart is in the right place because he cares , but dan waffles. Why does he hate black and brown people so much though? Economically left wing , but socially right wing , he sounds like nick griffins love child .
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 13, 2024 11:05:39 GMT
...Dan is saying that EVs will force the great unwashed off the road and so it should No he isn't.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 13, 2024 11:08:32 GMT
...Dan is saying that EVs will force the great unwashed off the road and so it should No he isn't. So you don’t think it’s a good thing that there could be less cars on the road ?
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 13, 2024 11:11:53 GMT
So you don’t think it’s a good thing that there could be less cars on the road ? Yes I do think that would a good thing, and I believe it will happen, but I don't believe that EVs will be the cause.
See posts passim
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