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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 13, 2024 9:45:45 GMT
By 'a huge natural factory' I take it you're referring to the agricultural industry, right?
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Post by Bentley on Nov 13, 2024 9:48:51 GMT
By 'a huge natural factory' I take it you're referring to the agricultural industry, right? It’s the same thing . The ‘ countryside’ IS the agricultural industry . People just live in the lanes and roads that connect different parts of it. .
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Post by zanygame on Nov 13, 2024 9:52:05 GMT
There are over 50 charging points within a 10 mile driving range of Dumbarton. There are 10 within 5 miles.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 13, 2024 9:53:27 GMT
We shouldn't rule out the possibility that the countryside may become largely depopulated, at least far as the working age (non-agricultural) population is concerned.
Don’t be ridiculous. The country isn’t a wild place full of bunnies and Brocks. It’s a huge natural factory spread over large area . That is increasingly managed by automated machines.
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 13, 2024 9:54:41 GMT
By 'a huge natural factory' I take it you're referring to the agricultural industry, right? It’s the same thing . The ‘ countryside’ IS the agricultural industry . People just live in the lanes and roads that connect different parts of it. . The reason I asked is that although around 10.5 million people live in rural areas, only 300,000 work in agriculture.
So what are the other 10 million doing there?
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Post by Bentley on Nov 13, 2024 9:56:59 GMT
Don’t be ridiculous. The country isn’t a wild place full of bunnies and Brocks. It’s a huge natural factory spread over large area . That is increasingly managed by automated machines. So another scenario that might happen but is between your ears atm. It looks like a pattern is forming. There no reason to think that people will not be needed to work in the countryside any time soon ..it’s all in your mind Arent you the one banging on about building in small plots that farmers don’t want ?
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Post by Bentley on Nov 13, 2024 10:00:08 GMT
It’s the same thing . The ‘ countryside’ IS the agricultural industry . People just live in the lanes and roads that connect different parts of it. . The reason I asked is that although around 10.5 million people live in rural areas, only 300,000 work in agriculture.
So what are the other 10 million doing there?
Most are living in the market towns I guess . The market towns where a great deal of building is going to take place. You need to talk to government officials that want to build more houses in small villages around the country. My point still stands .
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Post by zanygame on Nov 13, 2024 10:08:48 GMT
It’s the same thing . The ‘ countryside’ IS the agricultural industry . People just live in the lanes and roads that connect different parts of it. . The reason I asked is that although around 10.5 million people live in rural areas, only 300,000 work in agriculture.
So what are the other 10 million doing there?
Wild sex parties.
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 13, 2024 10:09:10 GMT
The reason I asked is that although around 10.5 million people live in rural areas, only 300,000 work in agriculture.
So what are the other 10 million doing there?
Most are living in the market towns I guess . The market towns where a great deal of building is going to take place. You need to talk to government officials that want to build more houses in small villages around the country. My point still stands . So the 10 million are not there because they have to be for employment purposes, but because they want to be? That being the case, presumably then anyone in gainful employment - other than in the local service sector or construction - will need to commute elsewhere. Currently by car, I'd imagine.
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Post by thomas on Nov 13, 2024 10:09:14 GMT
There are over 50 charging points within a 10 mile driving range of Dumbarton. There are 10 within 5 miles. not that im aware of , and I know the area extremely well , and have family across the bridge in Erskine. My cousins husband has to have a mandated company EV , which they can charge from home , so I know exactly what im talking about zany. If you are in a block of flats in Dumbarton , and dont have the luxury of home charging , it's massively inconvenient and expensive. Thats in one small area . I won't of course ask you to prove your claim once agin , because I know how you dont like anyone questioning your EV revolution . The constant issue you have , it's cheaper easier and far far more convenient to use petrol and diesel. So as you said yesterday , you are going to have to hope the government uses the stick instead of the carrot , which of course isnt working , and force everyone into EVs.
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Post by Dan Dare on Nov 13, 2024 10:15:26 GMT
You're only focusing on a particular segment of the potential EV market, the one you are personally part of. As I noted to Jonksy yesterday, it's perfectly legitimate for you to decide that an EV is not a good solution for you, but you're not everyone. There are other market segments where they are a much better fit.
Just stop denigrating people who made a different choice to you as 'idiots' or 'net zero nuts', it's unnecessary and too confrontational.
(The 'you' by the way is a collective term not just you personally).
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Post by thomas on Nov 13, 2024 10:18:37 GMT
yes yes dan , we discussed yesterday how we all agree (most of us anyway) Full EVs are perfectly fine for certain folk in a niche market. so whats your point?
Edit to add*** this is a debating forum dan , not a jerk circle , and we are all here to talk about various subjects. Dont tell me what I can and cant talk about , there's a good chap.
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Post by Handyman on Nov 13, 2024 10:18:42 GMT
I said anyone living in a block of flats, not you living in a block of flats. Learn to read FFS. Blocks of flats are all in towns and cities, all towns and cities have multiple charging points. Its simple logic. Prove it, just means you haven't understood that basic fact. Not ALL flats have access to charge ev's so yet again it can be filed in planet zanys bullshit trashcan. Exactly and not all blocks of flats have parking places or very limited parking places where they can as and when Charging Bays are put in place larger the block the more charges you will need as and when they are eventually put in place, its OK if you live in a house with its own driveway to buy your own charging system. Terraced streets with no drives may have access eventually to charging points from street lights first come first served, you cannot run a charging cable from your house across the Public pavement it poses a trip hazard to pedestrians , people in wheelchairs , partially sighted or blind , on top of that it is an Offence to put anything on the Public Highway. There are over 30 million vehicles in the UK if 50% were electric you would need thousands of charging stations WTF are they going to site them ? go on a long journey in and pull in for a pit stop at the service stations, you see queues of electric cars waiting to be charged as drivers fear they may not get to their destination , the AA are called out on a regular basis to help drivers whose batteries have gone flat. I will never buy an electric car , main reason too expensive to buy, too heavy, and if the battery explodes they burn so fiercely you may not have time to get out, if the Fire Brigade are called to a vehicle and they know its an electric vehicle they send two tenders not one as they are difficult to put the fire out.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 13, 2024 10:18:43 GMT
Zap map is your friend.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 13, 2024 10:19:57 GMT
The reason I asked is that although around 10.5 million people live in rural areas, only 300,000 work in agriculture.
So what are the other 10 million doing there?
Wild sex parties. Too much information zany. We don't give a fuck what you do in your private life apart from flitting here and there on aeroplanes in your usual hypocrtical self indulgent way..
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