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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 9:10:56 GMT
once agin you seek to muddy the discussion because ive highlighted your hypocrisy. Heating a home is a necessity. Flying to the canaries is a luxury. hypocrite of the highest order , and in general it's why many dont take green zealots seriously. All aviation contributes only 2.5% of emissions. if everyone took a long haul flight , it would exceed the emissions and pollution of the United States of America. The fact it only produces 2.5% of emissions is due to the relatively small amount of people flying , but each person flying is producing a disproportionate amount of emissions. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 12, 2024 9:11:44 GMT
you are waffling again , to get the last word in and save face after being shown to be a hypocrite. Did you see the part where I earlier explained about each person having a co2 allowance , and also pointing out how flying is a luxury that takes up half of that annual allowance?You're being rude and dismissive again. Did you see where I explained about flight emissions and the need to deal with the big polluters with the easiest solutions first. As for individual allowances how on earth would that work. If to live in a big draughty house would you have to turn off your heating halfway through winter? If your job is a rep can you only work two days a week? How about the things you buy, foods, goods etc ant their carbon footprint. As ever you're so interested in your put downs you put little or no effort into your thoughts. No actually you are trying to make your own hypocrisy seem actually creditable. Because somebody else is worse. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 12, 2024 9:12:12 GMT
Your on a dangerous road if you wish to define global pollution by only what's essential. Meat is not essential but has a huge carbon footprint, same with much vehicle travel and any entertainment. why should I give up my meat , when you cant give up your non essential flying on holiday? Your arguments smack of do as we say , not as we do , and how your luxuries are acceptable while ours aren't. I haven't said you should. The work on Co2 from meat is about reducing it with animal feeds, not banning it. It was you that wished to define Co2 pollution by necessity, because you thought that was clever and would make a good put down. And I love a nice steak or a burger. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 9:13:52 GMT
you are waffling again , to get the last word in and save face after being shown to be a hypocrite. Did you see the part where I earlier explained about each person having a co2 allowance , and also pointing out how flying is a luxury that takes up half of that annual allowance?You're being rude and dismissive again. dont attempt to insult peoples intelligence then. Im well aware we dont need zero emissions to reach net zero. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 12, 2024 9:14:49 GMT
All aviation contributes only 2.5% of emissions. if everyone took a long haul flight , it would exceed the emissions and pollution of the United States of America. The fact it only produces 2.5% of emissions is due to the relatively small amount of people flying , but each person flying is producing a disproportionate amount of emissions. But everyone doesn't do they. And again for the hard of listening, net zero is about looking at the biggest causes and the ones most easy to deal with. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 12, 2024 9:16:55 GMT
You're being rude and dismissive again. dont attempt to insult peoples intelligence then. Im well aware we dont need zero emissions to reach net zero. How was I to know that, when your arguments are so unresearched. I put in everything I can to try and get sensible responses, but you only like put downs to look good in front of the idiots. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 12, 2024 9:17:50 GMT
See didn't take long Thomas; he is preaching from his pulpit already.
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 9:19:41 GMT
why should I give up my meat , when you cant give up your non essential flying on holiday? Your arguments smack of do as we say , not as we do , and how your luxuries are acceptable while ours aren't. It was you that wished to define Co2 pollution by necessity, because you thought that was clever and would make a good put down. Thats what the whole argument is about. Reducing non essential activities to reduce carbon emissions? Then tackling the essential activities. It's not me being clever , it's me applying the green cults arguments to you , and you dont like it , because you think you are exempt while lecturing the rest of us. |
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 12, 2024 9:20:49 GMT
You're being rude and dismissive again. Did you see where I explained about flight emissions and the need to deal with the big polluters with the easiest solutions first. As for individual allowances how on earth would that work. If to live in a big draughty house would you have to turn off your heating halfway through winter? If your job is a rep can you only work two days a week? How about the things you buy, foods, goods etc ant their carbon footprint. As ever you're so interested in your put downs you put little or no effort into your thoughts. No actually you are trying to make your own hypocrisy seem actually creditable. Because somebody else is worse. The cheeky C u next Tuesday is telling me meat isn't essential to me, while flying off to the Canaries for a holiday. Who do these people think they are? |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 12, 2024 9:23:19 GMT
No actually you are trying to make your own hypocrisy seem actually creditable. Because somebody else is worse. The cheeky C u next Tuesday is telling me meat isn't essential to me, while flying off to the Canaries for a holiday. Why do these people think they are? Better than you and to prove it their hypocrisy doesn't count because they can preach the gospel for you but it doesn't count for them. Its cult behaviour. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 9:24:21 GMT
if everyone took a long haul flight , it would exceed the emissions and pollution of the United States of America. The fact it only produces 2.5% of emissions is due to the relatively small amount of people flying , but each person flying is producing a disproportionate amount of emissions. . of which unessential flying is one. Here in this bbc article It specifically addresses hypocritical polluters like yourself , and asks you to question if your flight is absolutely necessary , which of course a jolly to the canaries isnt. www.bbc.com/future/article/20200218-climate-change-how-to-cut-your-carbon-emissions-when-flying |
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Post by Orac on Nov 12, 2024 9:25:38 GMT
I would broaden the category to 'international travel' - which is 99.9% frivolous
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 9:27:12 GMT
dont attempt to insult peoples intelligence then. Im well aware we dont need zero emissions to reach net zero. How was I to know that, when your arguments are so unresearched. you made a claim about charging an EV takes less time to charge on average than filling a petrol or diesel , couldnt back it up when queried politely , and now claim my arguments are so unresearched? Lol. Lol. Im not stupid enough to waffle constantly about saving the planet , cause I care , while next minute stupidly informing the forum ive flew on a jolly to the canaries. I generally back up everything I post about , unlike you. |
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 9:32:40 GMT
Your on a dangerous road if you wish to define global pollution by only what's essential. Meat is not essential but has a huge carbon footprint, same with much vehicle travel and any entertainment. As I have said, Net zero is about looking at the biggest contributors and the best ways to reduce them with the minimum inconvenience. All aviation contributes only 2.5% of emissions. So arguments about hypocrisy used as an excuse not to deal with the big polluters doesn't wash. Which in a digital age has no need to be anything like 2.5% when zany is caught out being a hypocrite regarding flying , its only 2.5% of global emissions he tells me. When we point out though that the uk barely makes 1% of annual global emissions ,zany tells us we must do our bit for the cult. its fucking pathetic. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 12, 2024 9:55:19 GMT
See didn't take long Thomas; he is preaching from his pulpit already. No content again. It must be bloody boring here when I go. |
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