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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 8:31:52 GMT
Look up the proportion of Co2 pollution that comes from flying compared to heating homes and offices or land vehicle usage. Then you might know why it sits low on the list of net zero issues I have and it still doesn't look good. ourworldindata.org/travel-carbon-footprintBut it's okay so long as you still get to jetset on your jollies. Hypocrisy. I read a flight to the canaries one way is the equivalent of 3 months of the budget of one persons annual CO2 allowance based on the Paris agreement. So there and back , green zany has used up half his yearly budget for something that is nothing more than a luxury. like I said its fucking laughable. do as we say not as we do . Cunts like starmer and co jetting off round the planet on jollies , flying around needlessly on helicopters , etc while telling the elderly to turn their heating down or go for a walk to keep warm. Next zany will be demanding we live off bread and water to save the planet while he dines on the finest steak. These people are crazy. They should be treated with the utmost contempt they deserve.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 12, 2024 8:38:34 GMT
And that number is fixed is it. 200,000 is it, can't be increased. I didn't know that. Who'd have thought it. Can you let the government know about this fixed number, only they are planning to build 300,000 a year by freeing up grey land. So where are all the workers coming from? - the Government can come out with any old bullshit but that doesn't mean you actually have to believe it. We currently have a shortage of skilled construction workers - how are you proposing to rectify this shortage? In 2024, we’ve already seen a productivity slowdown of 1.4 per cent in the first part of the year, in part due to a lack of skilled workers.
Our industry predictions for the year told a similar story – there aren’t enough young people entering the industry to replace an ageing workforce.
The report found one in five tradespeople have had to turn down or postpone work because they don’t have the staff to complete the job.What could the trades skills shortage look like in 2030?So, interesting chat over lunch yesterday with a really nice guy who's a friend of a friend. You'll like this Pacifico. He runs a plumbing company with about 30 plumbers on his books. And he can't keep them, even though he's paying circa 2k a week many will turn down work on big sites in favour of less money for local work that's nearer home or easier. So it seems you are right. He is talking about us needing to bring the Polish back if we want to build 300k houses a year. Now, knowing the reaction of the British public to bringing in more migrants to solve the migrant issue, I can't see that happening. Issues: So long as migration continues at its current rate we wont keep up. No one wants to work in the building trade because its dreadful (I was in the trade for 30 years myself) Potential solutions. Reduce immigration and find some other way to deal with the tax shortfall (Sack all NHS managers or something) Switch to prefabricated buildings, built by machines (The dreaded AI.) Stop telling our school kids they can be anything they want if they study hard and teach them trades. Make working in the building industry less dreadful. Bill l on here explains it very well. www.quora.com/Why-does-no-one-want-to-work-in-the-trades-anymore. Reduce the number of houses built each year, but focus on getting the price down in some other way (land prices?) Any other ideas?
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Post by zanygame on Nov 12, 2024 8:43:17 GMT
@jonsky. Hi. I'm interested in getting house prices down so our children can afford them. One problem is the price of land, but that's a different issue. One of the issues is lack of trades, even though its pretty well paid. I've been out of the trades for about 18 years now, so I thought I'd ask you your thoughts.
Do you have issues getting brickies, labourers etc. And what do you think the biggest problems are in this.
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Post by buccaneer on Nov 12, 2024 8:43:34 GMT
Look up the proportion of Co2 pollution that comes from flying compared to heating homes and offices or land vehicle usage. Then you might know why it sits low on the list of net zero issues once agin you seek to muddy the discussion because ive highlighted your hypocrisy. Heating a home is a necessity. Flying to the canaries is a luxury. hypocrite of the highest order , and in general it's why many dont take green zealots seriously. The lack of self-awareness from the 'do as I say, not as I do' type mob is unbelievable. These kind of folk have little credibility.
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 8:48:20 GMT
once agin you seek to muddy the discussion because ive highlighted your hypocrisy. Heating a home is a necessity. Flying to the canaries is a luxury. hypocrite of the highest order , and in general it's why many dont take green zealots seriously. The lack of self-awareness from the 'do as I say, not as I do' type mob is unbelievable. These kind of folk have little credibility. when the green cult have to lie , be disingenuous and sell the best case scenario over full EV , ( the car does theoretically 300 miles , until you get it home and it does half that In the real world) offer best case scenarios about charging times , dangle carrots about charging infrastructure that everyone knows isnt there and isnt likely to be there in the next 5 years , and have to live off the back of massive taxpayers subsidies to sell you know they have a problem .
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Post by Orac on Nov 12, 2024 8:56:34 GMT
1) Stop immigration 2) Change the taxation system to discourage land speculation and instead encourage production / employment / work / productive investment. 3) When the transformation gather pace, sack about half the public sector who are placed there as a placebo over a failing economy. Number 3 wont be traumatic - if the economy is working, people will want to leave the public sector I have missed a lot here - there also needs to a regulatory and legislative bonfire.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 12, 2024 8:57:27 GMT
I read a flight to the canaries one way is the equivalent of 3 months of the budget of one persons annual CO2 allowance based on the Paris agreement. So there and back , green zany has used up half his yearly budget for something that is nothing more than a luxury. like I said its fucking laughable. do as we say not as we do . Cunts like starmer and co jetting off round the planet on jollies , flying around needlessly on helicopters , etc while telling the elderly to turn their heating down or go for a walk to keep warm. Next zany will be demanding we live off bread and water to save the planet while he dines on the finest steak. These people are crazy. They should be treated with the utmost contempt they deserve. if you're traveling with three or more people, driving is the better option, and here's why: Three people on the cross-country flight would account for 1.86 tons of carbon emissions (0.62 tons of CO2 x 3), compared to the total 1.26 tons of carbon the vehicle would produce. So, as long as you always have 3 people in your petrol car you are better than my flying. Of course, I do heat my house with heat pumps have super insulation and drive most of my miles on a battery. Its a matter of balance. The global share of carbon footprint from flying is 2.5% Heating is 15% Cars and vans 25% Manufacturing and construction were 50%, but the switch to fossil free production of energy has much reduced this. Net zero to anyone but the idiots does not mean living in a cave. It means looking at the causes of Co2 production that are easiest to deal with and produce the most Co2. Currently these are Cars, then heating, then manufacturing processes. WE DO NOT NEED TO PRODUCE NO CO2 TO REACH NETT ZERO.
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 9:00:13 GMT
I read a flight to the canaries one way is the equivalent of 3 months of the budget of one persons annual CO2 allowance based on the Paris agreement. So there and back , green zany has used up half his yearly budget for something that is nothing more than a luxury. like I said its fucking laughable. do as we say not as we do . Cunts like starmer and co jetting off round the planet on jollies , flying around needlessly on helicopters , etc while telling the elderly to turn their heating down or go for a walk to keep warm. Next zany will be demanding we live off bread and water to save the planet while he dines on the finest steak. These people are crazy. They should be treated with the utmost contempt they deserve. WE DO NOT NEED TO PRODUCE NO CO2 TO REACH NETT ZERO. you are waffling again , to get the last word in and save face after being shown to be a hypocrite. Did you see the part where I earlier explained about each person having a co2 allowance , and also pointing out how flying is a luxury that takes up half of that annual allowance?
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Post by sheepy on Nov 12, 2024 9:01:53 GMT
I read a flight to the canaries one way is the equivalent of 3 months of the budget of one persons annual CO2 allowance based on the Paris agreement. So there and back , green zany has used up half his yearly budget for something that is nothing more than a luxury. like I said its fucking laughable. do as we say not as we do . Cunts like starmer and co jetting off round the planet on jollies , flying around needlessly on helicopters , etc while telling the elderly to turn their heating down or go for a walk to keep warm. Next zany will be demanding we live off bread and water to save the planet while he dines on the finest steak. These people are crazy. They should be treated with the utmost contempt they deserve. Hold fire you will get a full-on exhibition of just how crazy they are and how they think they are the high priests
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 9:03:48 GMT
I read a flight to the canaries one way is the equivalent of 3 months of the budget of one persons annual CO2 allowance based on the Paris agreement. So there and back , green zany has used up half his yearly budget for something that is nothing more than a luxury. like I said its fucking laughable. do as we say not as we do . Cunts like starmer and co jetting off round the planet on jollies , flying around needlessly on helicopters , etc while telling the elderly to turn their heating down or go for a walk to keep warm. Next zany will be demanding we live off bread and water to save the planet while he dines on the finest steak. These people are crazy. They should be treated with the utmost contempt they deserve. Net zero to anyone but the idiots does not mean living in a cave. who has suggested we do ? The point is why should we give up our luxuries to save the planet when you quite obviously cant be arsed giving up yours? ??
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Post by zanygame on Nov 12, 2024 9:04:40 GMT
Look up the proportion of Co2 pollution that comes from flying compared to heating homes and offices or land vehicle usage. Then you might know why it sits low on the list of net zero issues once agin you seek to muddy the discussion because ive highlighted your hypocrisy. Heating a home is a necessity. Flying to the canaries is a luxury. hypocrite of the highest order , and in general it's why many dont take green zealots seriously. Your on a dangerous road if you wish to define global pollution by only what's essential. Meat is not essential but has a huge carbon footprint, same with much vehicle travel and any entertainment. As I have said, Net zero is about looking at the biggest contributors and the best ways to reduce them with the minimum inconvenience. All aviation contributes only 2.5% of emissions. So arguments about hypocrisy used as an excuse not to deal with the big polluters doesn't wash.
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Post by thomas on Nov 12, 2024 9:07:02 GMT
once agin you seek to muddy the discussion because ive highlighted your hypocrisy. Heating a home is a necessity. Flying to the canaries is a luxury. hypocrite of the highest order , and in general it's why many dont take green zealots seriously. Your on a dangerous road if you wish to define global pollution by only what's essential. Meat is not essential but has a huge carbon footprint, same with much vehicle travel and any entertainment. why should I give up my meat , when you cant give up your non essential flying on holiday? Your arguments smack of do as we say , not as we do , and how your luxuries are acceptable while ours aren't.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 12, 2024 9:07:25 GMT
once agin you seek to muddy the discussion because ive highlighted your hypocrisy. Heating a home is a necessity. Flying to the canaries is a luxury. hypocrite of the highest order , and in general it's why many dont take green zealots seriously. Your on a dangerous road if you wish to define global pollution by only what's essential. Meat is not essential but has a huge carbon footprint, same with much vehicle travel and any entertainment. As I have said, Net zero is about looking at the biggest contributors and the best ways to reduce them with the minimum inconvenience. All aviation contributes only 2.5% of emissions. So arguments about hypocrisy used as an excuse not to deal with the big polluters doesn't wash. Which in a digital age has no need to be anything like 2.5%
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Post by Orac on Nov 12, 2024 9:08:55 GMT
once agin you seek to muddy the discussion because ive highlighted your hypocrisy. Heating a home is a necessity. Flying to the canaries is a luxury. hypocrite of the highest order , and in general it's why many dont take green zealots seriously. Your on a dangerous road if you wish to define global pollution by only what's essential. Meat is not essential but has a huge carbon footprint, same with much vehicle travel and any entertainment. I doubt that is entirely his position. He is rather pointing out that this would / should be your position. If people are going to bent double making sacrifices, shouldn't those sacrifices start with all the unnecessary things? Using this model there is an argument for restricting / closing the internet first.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 12, 2024 9:09:34 GMT
WE DO NOT NEED TO PRODUCE NO CO2 TO REACH NETT ZERO. you are waffling again , to get the last word in and save face after being shown to be a hypocrite. Did you see the part where I earlier explained about each person having a co2 allowance , and also pointing out how flying is a luxury that takes up half of that annual allowance?You're being rude and dismissive again. Did you see where I explained about flight emissions and the need to deal with the big polluters with the easiest solutions first. As for individual allowances how on earth would that work. If to live in a big draughty house would you have to turn off your heating halfway through winter? If your job is a rep can you only work two days a week? How about the things you buy, foods, goods etc ant their carbon footprint. As ever you're so interested in your put downs you put little or no effort into your thoughts.
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