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Post by Bentley on Nov 9, 2024 20:05:42 GMT
Then you don't live in a village. Hundreds of houses are squeezed into the village envelope because of the planning laws on the green belt. Every old bungalow that comes up for sale is knocked down and 3 houses built on the plot. Every house with a large enough back garden sells it as a building plot. That's not the case in our experience. Whenever a property comes up for sale here, which isn't often but when they do they're snapped up in days, sometimes the 'for sale' sign doesn't even go up, 'sold' signs go up straight away. According to estate agents bungalows are highly sought after, not for redevelopment, but because they're desirable, particularly for older people. Mrs R and I are in our 60's and I think we're the youngest in the close, which means it's nice and quiet. That’s what happens in the real world not planet Zany. Pockets of land in country villages usually have bungalows built on them that go for a premium. Families will go for cheaper properties outside of towns . For reasons that are bleeding obvious . |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 9, 2024 20:28:36 GMT
That's not the case in our experience. Whenever a property comes up for sale here, which isn't often but when they do they're snapped up in days, sometimes the 'for sale' sign doesn't even go up, 'sold' signs go up straight away. According to estate agents bungalows are highly sought after, not for redevelopment, but because they're desirable, particularly for older people. Mrs R and I are in our 60's and I think we're the youngest in the close, which means it's nice and quiet. That’s what happens in the real world not planet Zany. Pockets of land in country villages usually have bungalows built on them that go for a premium. Families will go for cheaper properties outside of towns . For reasons that are bleeding obvious . ...' planet Zany' lol. The village where I grew up wasn't particularly affluent, although it was very rural. No bungalows all houses most of which were pre war, pre WW1 in many cases. That was in the 1960s -70's, today things have changed. The 'village' is now probably three times larger than it was when I was a kid, it's not really a village anymore, but calling it a village keeps property prices up. Most of the new properties built over the past 30 years have been built on farmland. Three farms used to surround the village but the farms and farmland have long gone, replaced with mostly large 5 bed detached executive properties that the locals could never afford, and from what I gather there is no interaction between old village, and new village. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 9, 2024 22:27:11 GMT
I mean what? The uk hasn't been self sufficient in food for centuries. England doesn't have the land to sustain its population , and scotland and Wales have a lot of land unsuitable to sustaining large populations .My post wasnt suggesting england or the uk doesn't have land to build on , I was simply comparing France to england in terms of geographical size and demography , and showing how your earlier post was nonsensical rubbish when comparing France to england. So tell me zany , why when labour were last in at both Holyrood , and more importantly for you , Westminster , over the course of thirteen years did they hardly build any houses , for example as we know thatcher built more than blair and brown.? You are now trying to tell the gullible that labour are going to do in the next five years that which they spectacularly failed to do over thirteen years? I mean their record in housebuilding is fucking lamentable. Over to you though , whats the big zany solution to cheap affordable housing being mass constructed to house all these immigrants along with the natives that you wish to invite in ? I mean I dont think there is anyone on planet earth outside of you who believes a thing starmer and his cronies say . Had you looked at my post in context it was not nonsensical. I was pointing out to Pacifico that house prices in the UK are higher because of limited supply of land. After he had claimed they were higher because of Labour and Material costs. If that were the case then houses in France would be a similar price to ours. Of course they are cheaper in France BECAUSE there is more building land available. Thus the price of building houses in England would fall if we released more land for building them on. FFS - I said 6 days ago that one of the constraints was the planning system. You need to read what people write and not what you think/hope they write.. perhaps come down off planet Zany... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2024 0:11:59 GMT
So why were your comments deleted by the mod team andrea? You have had the link to the post you made calling FS a retard... Stop trying to deflect from the subject of your lots fuckup shitshow of a budget.. You've already asked me that, and I replied on the penultimate post on page 37. Fwiw, I agree that the low birth rate in this country is a big issue and worthy of a separate thread. I also agree to much of the responses to my initial point. Unfortunately Dan and Bently had to make it about skin colour, which it isn't, bloody typical of this forum. You also mistake me for a Labour supporter yet again. Are you sure that you don't have reading difficulties because I'm constantly explaining my political compass to you, but you don't seem to get it. It seems that most people on this forum - I do not include you in this - are thickoes and idiots, or simply people with twisted feelings of malice who come here to nurture or express hate, or both. A forum where an intellectual giant like jonksy is taken seriously. I tried to come back because I have no truck with the rival forum for personal reasons, but if this site is the only alternative i'd rather give up on politics forums altogether. There is just too much ignorance and hate and not enough intelligent debate around here. This forum is too often a depressing experience. I dont need it in my life anymore. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 10, 2024 0:14:50 GMT
You've already asked me that, and I replied on the penultimate post on page 37. Fwiw, I agree that the low birth rate in this country is a big issue and worthy of a separate thread. I also agree to much of the responses to my initial point. Unfortunately Dan and Bently had to make it about skin colour, which it isn't, bloody typical of this forum. You also mistake me for a Labour supporter yet again. Are you sure that you don't have reading difficulties because I'm constantly explaining my political compass to you, but you don't seem to get it. It seems that most people on this forum - I do not include you in this - are thickoes and idiots, or simply people with twisted feelings of malice who come here to nurture or express hate, or both. A forum where an intellectual giant like jonksy is taken seriously. I tried to come back because I have no truck with the rival forum for personal reasons, but if this site is the only alternative i'd rather give up on politics forums altogether. There is just too much ignorance and hate and not enough intelligent debate around here. This forum is too often a depressing experience. I dont need it in my life anymore. Maybe you should go back to the other forum then . Oh no , they made you cry and run away ,didn’t they ? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 10, 2024 1:11:49 GMT
It seems that most people on this forum - I do not include you in this - are thickoes and idiots, or simply people with twisted feelings of malice who come here to nurture or express hate, or both. A forum where an intellectual giant like jonksy is taken seriously. I tried to come back because I have no truck with the rival forum for personal reasons, but if this site is the only alternative i'd rather give up on politics forums altogether. There is just too much ignorance and hate and not enough intelligent debate around here. This forum is too often a depressing experience. I dont need it in my life anymore. Maybe you should go back to the other forum then . Oh no , they made you cry and run away ,didn’t they ? Thanks for demonstrating his point. 🙈 |
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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 10, 2024 3:59:10 GMT
It seems that most people on this forum - I do not include you in this - are thickoes and idiots, or simply people with twisted feelings of malice who come here to nurture or express hate, or both. A forum where an intellectual giant like jonksy is taken seriously. I tried to come back because I have no truck with the rival forum for personal reasons, but if this site is the only alternative i'd rather give up on politics forums altogether. There is just too much ignorance and hate and not enough intelligent debate around here. This forum is too often a depressing experience. I dont need it in my life anymore. I don't know how old you are, I would have thought quite young, you certainly come across as naive. If you want to see thickoes and idiots tune into the BBC who never miss an opportunity to show kids waving Palestine/Hamas flags, and the thing is, if you asked them where Palestine was, the majority of them would giggle and look for support from an equally clueless friend. Most of them are out for a laugh, to follow the crowd. When they grow up they will look back and think, Christ what a pillock I was. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 10, 2024 5:53:27 GMT
You've already asked me that, and I replied on the penultimate post on page 37. Fwiw, I agree that the low birth rate in this country is a big issue and worthy of a separate thread. I also agree to much of the responses to my initial point. Unfortunately Dan and Bently had to make it about skin colour, which it isn't, bloody typical of this forum. You also mistake me for a Labour supporter yet again. Are you sure that you don't have reading difficulties because I'm constantly explaining my political compass to you, but you don't seem to get it. It seems that most people on this forum - I do not include you in this - are thickoes and idiots, or simply people with twisted feelings of malice who come here to nurture or express hate, or both. A forum where an intellectual giant like jonksy is taken seriously. I tried to come back because I have no truck with the rival forum for personal reasons, but if this site is the only alternative i'd rather give up on politics forums altogether. There is just too much ignorance and hate and not enough intelligent debate around here. This forum is too often a depressing experience. I dont need it in my life anymore. I know - imagine people having different views to yours.
How very dare they.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 10, 2024 6:15:07 GMT
It seems that most people on this forum - I do not include you in this - are thickoes and idiots, or simply people with twisted feelings of malice who come here to nurture or express hate, or both. A forum where an intellectual giant like jonksy is taken seriously. I tried to come back because I have no truck with the rival forum for personal reasons, but if this site is the only alternative i'd rather give up on politics forums altogether. There is just too much ignorance and hate and not enough intelligent debate around here. This forum is too often a depressing experience. I dont need it in my life anymore. I know - imagine people having different views to yours.
How very dare they.
I enjoy being the target of their affection mate. It shows that I have got it right. LOL Maybe I am a mini Trump... |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 10, 2024 7:56:52 GMT
Then you don't live in a village. Hundreds of houses are squeezed into the village envelope because of the planning laws on the green belt. Every old bungalow that comes up for sale is knocked down and 3 houses built on the plot. Every house with a large enough back garden sells it as a building plot. Bullshit . I live in a village and every house build in parcels of land has been expensive and for good reason . They are expensive to build and aimed at the more wealthy house buyer. The more ‘ affordable’ houses are on large building sites around market towns and larger villages . That changed years back when there were more 700+k houses than people wanting them. Zoom in on any village on Google and see how many properties appear behind existing ones, how many new closes squeeze between houses on the high st. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 10, 2024 8:06:31 GMT
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Post by zanygame on Nov 10, 2024 8:07:02 GMT
That's not the case in our experience. Whenever a property comes up for sale here, which isn't often but when they do they're snapped up in days, sometimes the 'for sale' sign doesn't even go up, 'sold' signs go up straight away. According to estate agents bungalows are highly sought after, not for redevelopment, but because they're desirable, particularly for older people. Mrs R and I are in our 60's and I think we're the youngest in the close, which means it's nice and quiet. That’s what happens in the real world not planet Zany. Pockets of land in country villages usually have bungalows built on them that go for a premium. Families will go for cheaper properties outside of towns . For reasons that are bleeding obvious . The reason bungalows are sold at a premium is because there are so few of them left. All those ones that were built on half an acre back in the days when the country had a population of 50m are bought by developers. To the point now that when the old and infirm wish to lose their stairs, they can't get a bungalow for a decent price. There were two in Over (next village to ours) that sat derelict for nigh 20 years because a builder bought them but the planning office wouldn't pass plans to build 5 houses on the site.  |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 10, 2024 8:10:25 GMT
All that where when stuff aside. The argument remains that we could build on the green belt because not all of it is green. And we desperately need houses.
As an aside, how many of you would be upset to see the property you bought for 18k and is now worth 300k reduced back down to 180k as supply starts to equal demand.
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Post by sheepy on Nov 10, 2024 8:12:57 GMT
All that where when stuff aside. The argument remains that we could build on the green belt because not all of it is green. And we desperately need houses. As an aside, how many of you would be upset to see the property you bought for 18k and is now worth 300k reduced back down to 180k as supply starts to equal demand. Who are you threatening now Zany? |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 10, 2024 8:15:05 GMT
You can build anywhere if you can get planning permission - unfortunately that is in the gift of Politicians who respond to public demand. My favourite example is of the LibDem Council in West London who rejected permission for homes on a disused sewage farm - apparently it is a 'haven for wildlife'..  |
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