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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 14, 2024 17:08:25 GMT
To show I'm not bias, this was under a Tory watch, most of these schemes are pie in the sky and making individuals/investors very very wealthy, while never delivering what they are suppose to, every years energy bills rise, while billions upon billions are wasted investing tax payers money on daydreams. Tory council is left effectively bankrupt after investing £655m in solar farm tycoon who used taxpayer cash to buy £12m private jet, £16m yacht and £2m Bugatti Chiron supercar instead Solar farm tycoon Liam Kavanagh used Thurrock Council's money for luxury life Council effectively bankrupted after investing £655m in his solar farm business www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12358735/Tory-council-left-effectively-bankrupt-investing- |
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Post by thomas on Oct 15, 2024 7:58:46 GMT
Just after midday the National Energy System Operator issued a blackout warning to UK-wide electricity generators thanks to a reduced wind speeds and outages in nuclear power stations. The first time the notice has been issued since November 2022…Wind and solar are meeting just 10% of the grid’s electricity each as the ‘capacity notice‘ warns a power demand spike in the late afternoon could overwhelm spare capacity. NESO insists the notice is a “standard tool used to remind capacity market providers of their obligations.” Just six days ago it boasted that “small-scale renewables” have much-reduced the risk of blackout warnings this winter. Low wind and the loss of every last coal power station in Britain have delivered a harsh dose of reality to that one… order-order.com/2024/10/14/uk-activates-blackout-prevention-system-as-wind-power-falters/ meanwhile over in ze fatherland..........  www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article254008412/E-Auto-Frust-Jeder-Dritte-wechselt-zurueck-zum-Verbrenner.html
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Post by thomas on Oct 15, 2024 8:03:57 GMT
It is a lot of money to splash on an unproven technology when for the same money you could have 10 mini nuclear power stations or a mass insulation program for UK housing. when you have tree huggers like monbiot and warrington critical of labours plans on Carbon capture then you know something is seriously wrong. I mean monbiot is liking it to a never ending financial nightmare like HS2 . At least the railway is proven technology.......... |
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Post by see2 on Oct 15, 2024 15:40:05 GMT
Just after midday the National Energy System Operator issued a blackout warning to UK-wide electricity generators thanks to a reduced wind speeds and outages in nuclear power stations. The first time the notice has been issued since November 2022…Wind and solar are meeting just 10% of the grid’s electricity each as the ‘capacity notice‘ warns a power demand spike in the late afternoon could overwhelm spare capacity. NESO insists the notice is a “standard tool used to remind capacity market providers of their obligations.” Just six days ago it boasted that “small-scale renewables” have much-reduced the risk of blackout warnings this winter. Low wind and the loss of every last coal power station in Britain have delivered a harsh dose of reality to that one… order-order.com/2024/10/14/uk-activates-blackout-prevention-system-as-wind-power-falters/ meanwhile over in ze fatherland.......... www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article254008412/E-Auto-Frust-Jeder-Dritte-wechselt-zurueck-zum-Verbrenner.html Have you read the OP? |
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Post by see2 on Oct 15, 2024 15:49:46 GMT
1. There is no suggestion that this 'green' government would be buying fossil fuels for expanding green energy. 2. Yes, but it is not a problem if it sourced and treated properly. There will always be the whingers. 3. Not if cultivated and harvested properly, much of which will be naturally done even if not used as biofuels.
George Monbiot.
This will be Keir Starmer’s HS2: a hugely expensive scheme that will either be abandoned, scaled back or require massive extra funding to continue, after many billions have been spent. The government’s plan for carbon capture and storage (CCS) – catching carbon dioxide from major industry and pumping it into rocks under the North Sea – is a fossil fuel-driven boondoggle that will accelerate climate breakdown. Its ticket price of £21.7bn is just the beginning of a phenomenal fiscal nightmare.
The chancellor, Rachel Reeves, talks of a fiscal “black hole” of £21.9bn. But this is a real black hole: a long tunnel into the rocks, down which £21.7bn and more will be poured. A more reliable and cost-effective means of sequestering carbon would be to bundle up the money (roughly 1,100 tonnes in £20 notes) and shove it down the pipe.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/11/labour-carbon-capture-climate-breakdownOpinion followed by opinion, followed by nonsense, no government is is going to deliberately pour £billions into an obviously wasted effort to make money. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 15, 2024 19:57:19 GMT
Just after midday the National Energy System Operator issued a blackout warning to UK-wide electricity generators thanks to a reduced wind speeds and outages in nuclear power stations. The first time the notice has been issued since November 2022…Wind and solar are meeting just 10% of the grid’s electricity each as the ‘capacity notice‘ warns a power demand spike in the late afternoon could overwhelm spare capacity. NESO insists the notice is a “standard tool used to remind capacity market providers of their obligations.” Just six days ago it boasted that “small-scale renewables” have much-reduced the risk of blackout warnings this winter. Low wind and the loss of every last coal power station in Britain have delivered a harsh dose of reality to that one… order-order.com/2024/10/14/uk-activates-blackout-prevention-system-as-wind-power-falters/ meanwhile over in ze fatherland.......... www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article254008412/E-Auto-Frust-Jeder-Dritte-wechselt-zurueck-zum-Verbrenner.html Have you read the OP? so what do you think loopy loo? taking a wild stab in the dark , could there be a link? |
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Post by thomas on Oct 15, 2024 19:59:31 GMT
Labour’s carbon-capture scheme will be Starmer’s white elephant: a terrible mistake costing billions
George Monbiot.
This will be Keir Starmer’s HS2: a hugely expensive scheme that will either be abandoned, scaled back or require massive extra funding to continue, after many billions have been spent. The government’s plan for carbon capture and storage (CCS) – catching carbon dioxide from major industry and pumping it into rocks under the North Sea – is a fossil fuel-driven boondoggle that will accelerate climate breakdown. Its ticket price of £21.7bn is just the beginning of a phenomenal fiscal nightmare.
The chancellor, Rachel Reeves, talks of a fiscal “black hole” of £21.9bn. But this is a real black hole: a long tunnel into the rocks, down which £21.7bn and more will be poured. A more reliable and cost-effective means of sequestering carbon would be to bundle up the money (roughly 1,100 tonnes in £20 notes) and shove it down the pipe.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/11/labour-carbon-capture-climate-breakdown Opinion followed by opinion, followed by nonsense, no government is is going to deliberately pour £billions into an obviously wasted effort to make money. from the party in government that told us there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq , now its trust us on carbon capture its gonna be brilliant...... honest.....  |
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Post by see2 on Oct 15, 2024 21:44:28 GMT
so what do you think? taking a wild stab in the dark , could there be a link? As posted on the OP it was an article I read in a local newspaper I sometimes read. There must be ways of checking it out if you are desperate for it, otherwise it stands as posted in the OP. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 15, 2024 21:50:19 GMT
Opinion followed by opinion, followed by nonsense, no government is is going to deliberately pour £billions into an obviously wasted effort to make money. from the party in government that told us there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq , now its trust us on carbon capture its gonna be brilliant...... honest..... _____________________________________________ The party in government never claimed, in their own right, that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The Government in question referred to the information given to it by the Intelligence Agency. Please keep your delusionary ill-informed comments to yourself. |
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Post by sandypine on Oct 16, 2024 6:25:15 GMT
from the party in government that told us there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq , now its trust us on carbon capture its gonna be brilliant...... honest..... _____________________________________________ The party in government never claimed, in their own right, that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The Government in question referred to the information given to it by the Intelligence Agency. Please keep your delusionary ill-informed comments to yourself. The party in government are strongly suspected of wishing to carry out certain action and assessed and presented evidence to achieve that end. Which is not the same as looking at the evidence and deciding a course of action. It is the same type of action that resulted in the Zulu war, the government wanted to invade Zululand and sought out evidence that could give good cause to that undertaking. Blair presented himself as a 'straight and honest sort of guy' and the Iraq evidence showed that he was more slippery and dishonest than many of his predecessors. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 16, 2024 6:25:20 GMT
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Post by see2 on Oct 16, 2024 9:56:19 GMT
The party in government are strongly suspected of wishing to carry out certain action and assessed and presented evidence to achieve that end. Which is not the same as looking at the evidence and deciding a course of action. It is the same type of action that resulted in the Zulu war, the government wanted to invade Zululand and sought out evidence that could give good cause to that undertaking. Blair presented himself as a 'straight and honest sort of guy' and the Iraq evidence showed that he was more slippery and dishonest than many of his predecessors. As usual you meander away in your imagination in your attempt to re-write reality. 12 years of Saddam refusing to comply with the Ceasefire Agreement he signed up to, and the decision by the UN Security Council to pass UN Res. 1441, decided that the invasion was both legal and necessary. Try using your imagination to consider what Saddam would have got up to if the military lined up to invade had gone home instead instead of invading. Keeping the atrocity of Halabja in mind. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 16, 2024 9:58:26 GMT
thomas said nothing. He posts the most juvenile posts on the forum. But he has other Rightists to back his nonsense up. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 16, 2024 10:03:52 GMT
“ However in some of the subsequent press reporting, most notably in the Sun and the London Evening Standard, the 45-minute claim was linked to another eye-catching statement in the dossier - that Iraq possessed an extended range version of the Scud ballistic missile capable of reaching British bases on Cyprus.” www.theguardian.com/politics/2004/feb/05/iraq.iraq1?CMP=Share_iOSApp_OtherBlair sold the WMD 45 minute lie through what Saddam could do to us , not his own people. We never invaded Iraq on the basis of what atrocities he would commit on Iraq. |
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Post by see2 on Oct 16, 2024 10:05:31 GMT
It is a lot of money to splash on an unproven technology when for the same money you could have 10 mini nuclear power stations or a mass insulation program for UK housing. Why wouldn't it be well researched with the difficulties recognised and methods to overcome them being well researched before any actual action is taken? |
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