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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2024 13:12:13 GMT
Status Quo was musically moronic. Talking Heads though were brilliant and one of the most original of bands. The rave scene was home grown. It was a free market. Before that the music industry was controlled by the likes of EMI etc. It wasa a dirty game and that was why the pruduce was crap. In a sesne you could claim Japs invented rave. They brought the price of studio equipment within the reach of the private individuals, and in his bedroom he never had a manager telling him what to play. Sure there was a lot of crap as well, but there was just a lot of everything and out of that soup emerged brilliant creations, far better than any coporation could do. At this point the Tories decided to protect their corporations by banning it. It goes to show you the kind of country we live in. A typical creative genius from that era was Andy Weatherall. I think the point made is that, it shouldn't matter to a radio station, or a hedge fund with controlling interests in multiple radio stations, whether the music is 'moronic'. Their only interest should be in its popularity (bums on seats for advertisers). So, for instance, whole large groups of radio stations carefully avoiding playing chart music, in preference for non-chart music, would require some kind of explanation. There are far more radio stations now that there used to be, many of them digital. The big ones re the BBC are Radios 1 to 5. The first three of those are primarily music stations, Radio 1 mostly targeting the youth listenership, 2 catering for the rest of us, and 3 focussing on classical music. This has been the BBC set up for close on three decades now. What has changed is the proliferation of niche radio stations catering for specific tastes. There are some that specialise in 60s and 70s music, one I know of that specialises in 80s chart music, several that specialise in classical, others that specialise in rock or heavy metal, some that focus on easy listening, some that focus on dance music, and yes some that focus on stuff like rap or hip hop. The only people who will ever tune in to a station broadcasting mostly rap or hip hop are those who want to listen to that. This compartmentalisation of music broadcasting has the advantage that it makes it very easy for the rest of us to avoid listening to shite we don't like. For this reason it is no longer really possible for music stations to force particular music genres on us as it often felt like they were doing in decades past. If you don't like what you are listening to, there is always somewhere else to go now. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 9, 2024 13:25:42 GMT
The stuff about the Smith family is fake, there's no credible sources for it, just a hoax video by some YouTuber.
The stuff about Diddy and those around him including Trump, true.
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Post by Orac on Oct 9, 2024 13:50:55 GMT
I think the point made is that, it shouldn't matter to a radio station, or a hedge fund with controlling interests in multiple radio stations, whether the music is 'moronic'. Their only interest should be in its popularity (bums on seats for advertisers). So, for instance, whole large groups of radio stations carefully avoiding playing chart music, in preference for non-chart music, would require some kind of explanation. There are far more radio stations now that there used to be, many of them digital. The big ones re the BBC are Radios 1 to 5. The first three of those are primarily music stations, Radio 1 mostly targeting the youth listenership, 2 catering for the rest of us, and 3 focussing on classical music. This has been the BBC set up for close on three decades now. I don't think radio is anything like as important as it was then. Here we seem to be talking about two different things. |
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Post by Orac on Oct 9, 2024 13:58:10 GMT
The stuff about the Smith family is fake, there's no credible sources for it, just a hoax video by some YouTuber. The stuff about Diddy and those around him including Trump, true. Just to give the casual reader some indication of significance of Mr Trump being photographed with Mr Diddy, could you give us your rough estimate of the number of prominent, famous people who have been similarly photographed? Without that statistical context, what you are saying just looks totally brainless. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 9, 2024 14:04:33 GMT
There are photos of P Diddy with Prince William and Harry .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2024 14:07:53 GMT
The stuff about the Smith family is fake, there's no credible sources for it, just a hoax video by some YouTuber. The stuff about Diddy and those around him including Trump, true. At least P Diddy has been exposed for what he is. All too often people in high places get away with this stuff and if the truth ever comes out at all it is usually only after they are dead. Saville was a close confidante of both royalty and Prime Minister Thatcher. I have long suspected the existence of high level and international paedophile rings, with those involved using their power to protect each other. There are too many examples of photographic evidence of close friendship interconnectedness between people not to have such suspicions. Those few who have been caught have usually been so as a result of a gross stupidity borne of an overconfidence in their own untouchability. Gary Glitter for example handed a laptop in for repair which had thousands of child porn images on it. How utterly stupid was that? I do think we have to assume that most active paedophiles in high places are not as stupid as that. Glitter might well have info on others but also probably knows he'd likely suffer a terrible death if he went public. You do hear of all sorts of terrible things being out there on the dark web. Of course many people have very dark imaginations and a lot might be myth...but we cannot know whether or not some of it might be true. I suspect there is far more evil going on in this world by a few evil people who have both wealth, power, and intelligence than we will ever know. Most evil doers who are caught are usually so because of their own stupidity. I have often thought that an equally malignant but far more intelligent, wealthy, and powerful couple than Fred and Rose West could very likely indulge in similar depravity without ever being caught or ever being exposed. We only ever hear of the evil doers who get caught, who by definition are often not always the smartest ones. It is the smart ones who never get caught - paedophiles, serial killers, perverts of various malignant kinds - who are the greatest potential menace. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 9, 2024 15:22:55 GMT
The stuff about the Smith family is fake, there's no credible sources for it, just a hoax video by some YouTuber. The stuff about Diddy and those around him including Trump, true. Just to give the casual reader some indication of significance of Mr Trump being photographed with Mr Diddy, could you give us your rough estimate of the number of prominent, famous people who have been similarly photographed? Without that statistical context, what you are saying just looks totally brainless. The man used to invade the changing rooms of children at the beauty pageants he ran, his name is all over the Epstein flight logs and there are rape accusations against the convicted criminal. Him being a right winger is not enough for me to like him, he is a criminal, he is friends only with criminals and I hope he goes to prison. The Republicans need another Mitt Romney and fast. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Oct 10, 2024 8:04:36 GMT
The stuff about the Smith family is fake, there's no credible sources for it, just a hoax video by some YouTuber. The stuff about Diddy and those around him including Trump, true. The video I dropped about Will Smith is not a one off … the sources detailing Will’s ambiguous sexuality are many - and were in his inner circle. For him to choose P. Diddy as a mentor for his daughter and son … after he was attending and involved in the ‘Freak Parties’ when things flipped at 1am … and doors were locked … and the orgies started … was ‘bad parenting’ in the extreme. Stop lying this is ‘fake’, Vinny … how many more victims of bad parenting and child sexploitation will come out of turning a ‘blind eye’? …. you are sick and ignorant. Wasn’t 30 years of idiots like you saying “there’s nothing to see here” enough damage for you sicko Democrats? … fence sitters! …. the body guards and assistants have blown the whistle … and the Conspiracy Theorists were right all along … The stuff about the Smith family is fake, there's no credible sources for it, just a hoax video by some YouTuber. The stuff about Diddy and those around him including Trump, true. Just to give the casual reader some indication of significance of Mr Trump being photographed with Mr Diddy, could you give us your rough estimate of the number of prominent, famous people who have been similarly photographed? Without that statistical context, what you are saying just looks totally brainless. True … and what year a picture was taken is important … Saville, Weinstein, Epstein and P. Diddy groomed adults as well as children …. Some politicians, celebrities and royalty might have partied heavily with these people … but did they get involved in under age orgies, drugging individuals and rape?? Trump had his sex addiction … Justin Bieber walked away damaged, many did … and Trump later groomed hip hoppers to win the Black Vote … when he turned Republican. …. It will be interesting to see what comes out in the Trial of Poof Daddy … my guess is the Establishment will shut this down … and him down … like they did Epstein. …. and we will only see the truth in footage on the Dark Web. If they do that … my guess is the Public will lynch the Langley Posse … and the FBI.🤔 …. All hell will break loose … and rightly so! The stuff about the Smith family is fake, there's no credible sources for it, just a hoax video by some YouTuber. The stuff about Diddy and those around him including Trump, true. At least P Diddy has been exposed for what he is. All too often people in high places get away with this stuff and if the truth ever comes out at all it is usually only after they are dead. Saville was a close confidante of both royalty and Prime Minister Thatcher. I have long suspected the existence of high level and international paedophile rings, with those involved using their power to protect each other. There are too many examples of photographic evidence of close friendship interconnectedness between people not to have such suspicions. Those few who have been caught have usually been so as a result of a gross stupidity borne of an overconfidence in their own untouchability. Gary Glitter for example handed a laptop in for repair which had thousands of child porn images on it. How utterly stupid was that? I do think we have to assume that most active paedophiles in high places are not as stupid as that. Glitter might well have info on others but also probably knows he'd likely suffer a terrible death if he went public. You do hear of all sorts of terrible things being out there on the dark web. Of course many people have very dark imaginations and a lot might be myth...but we cannot know whether or not some of it might be true. I suspect there is far more evil going on in this world by a few evil people who have both wealth, power, and intelligence than we will ever know. Most evil doers who are caught are usually so because of their own stupidity. I have often thought that an equally malignant but far more intelligent, wealthy, and powerful couple than Fred and Rose West could very likely indulge in similar depravity without ever being caught or ever being exposed. We only ever hear of the evil doers who get caught, who by definition are often not always the smartest ones. It is the smart ones who never get caught - paedophiles, serial killers, perverts of various malignant kinds - who are the greatest potential menace. Good points. Also …. These adults groomed these kids into their sex games, drugs and perversions … when they were too impressionable and immature to know what their true orientation was. Free uncensored access to the Internet for kids is the most damaging thing around today … more ‘bad parenting’ many Families are guilty of. I blame Silicon Valley and Zionists/Deep State for not developing a 2 tier Internet … for adult content … and Family content … and a hardwired chip in all connected devices … that assures parents their kids can’t jump into the ‘adult domain’ and be ‘groomed’ by such scum. It should be an offence for a minor to be accessing devices that have an adult content portal. Google and Sky Mobile put more blocks/censorship in the way of me accessing ‘adult 18+ content’ … when they know I am a pensioner! … and entitled.👍🤣 Kids don’t seem to have trouble getting this content from all these other Silly Con Valley spyware Companies … not hard to see why … in this Zionist network of Epstein and Weinstein grooming etc etc. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 10, 2024 8:12:55 GMT
The video you posted is fake, there are no credible sources backing it up.
Meanwhile, Putin who really is a paedophile, who raped little boys in East Germany in the 1980's enjoys your wholehearted support.
You don't care about the inside job false flag terrorist attacks that were committed to get Putin into power in the late 1990's, or the murder of the whistleblower who revealed all this info.
Alexander Litvinenko revealed all this.
He used to work for the KGB then the FSB.
He quit the FSB and became a refugee because of the criminal Putin.
Trump, who really is a paedophile and raped little girls with Epstein, and with Diddy, enjoys your wholehearted support.
You're utterly brainwashed.
You wouldn't know a conspiracy if Russians invaded your home.
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Post by Orac on Oct 10, 2024 8:30:35 GMT
The stuff about the Smith family is fake, there's no credible sources for it, just a hoax video by some YouTuber. The stuff about Diddy and those around him including Trump, true. At least P Diddy has been exposed for what he is. All too often people in high places get away with this stuff and if the truth ever comes out at all it is usually only after they are dead. Saville was a close confidante of both royalty and Prime Minister Thatcher. I have long suspected the existence of high level and international paedophile rings, with those involved using their power to protect each other. There are too many examples of photographic evidence of close friendship interconnectedness between people not to have such suspicions. Those few who have been caught have usually been so as a result of a gross stupidity borne of an overconfidence in their own untouchability. Gary Glitter for example handed a laptop in for repair which had thousands of child porn images on it. How utterly stupid was that? I do think we have to assume that most active paedophiles in high places are not as stupid as that. Glitter might well have info on others but also probably knows he'd likely suffer a terrible death if he went public. I think it's quite likely. The taboos around pedophilia are so strong that it easily acts as a 'psychopathic sealant' (a sealant easily employed by psychopaths). A normal, unwary person might find themselves trapped by 'party' situations unless they are careful and, once trapped, there is no way out. The intelligence agencies have been using this way of compromising people for a while and there is clearly a giant conduit between intelligence agencies and politics. A hypothesis is powerful in proportion to the amount it explains multiplied by its its plausibility. In this case, the hypothesis explains a great deal and has no components that are particularly implausible - ie we know that psychopaths behave like this and would use this tool if it were available - and why wouldn't it be available? Which part of the puzzle is missing here? A detractor might say that there is no evidence. However, i would submit that there is evidence. How did Rosanne Bar know about Epstein's island in the nineties? You might say, well she's crazy - but the problem is the functional definition of crazy is that you are perpetually wrong and in this case she appears to be right (ie not crazy). We also have the circumstantial evidence surrounding the treatment of Epstein - his barely explicable 'position', the fact that he is charged and convicted of very serious crimes, but somehow escapes through the system and restarts the very same operation. How does this make any sense without the significant co-operation of 'the system'? Finally we have a set of weird coincidence surround his death - that when the lid seemed sure to be opened, he 'commits suicide' in close custody and all the normal things that would allow this fact to be confirmed beyond reasonable doubt are somehow, by pure coincidence, 'not working on that day' Science isn't purely about stating about what we know for sure, if it were it could state practically nothing. Science is partially about balancing what seems most likely true, given that coincidences are rare and that the universe itself is consistent and doesn't conspire. I would welcome a discussion about this btw. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 10, 2024 8:56:25 GMT
Paedophile rings do exist, just look at the scum Trump hangs out with, Epstein, Diddy, Putin, Prince Andrew... Nonces.
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Post by Orac on Oct 10, 2024 9:09:26 GMT
Paedophile rings do exist, just look at the scum Trump hangs out with, Epstein, Diddy, Putin, Prince Andrew... Nonces. 'One note' Vinny gets his recorder out for another blow |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 10, 2024 9:27:05 GMT
If one defines paedophilia as sex with a prepubescent child then afaik paedophile rings are rare.
If one defines paedophilia as sex with a person/ child under the age of consent then it’s happening every day in every town , everywhere.
What seems to be happening is young teenage girls ( and a few boys)being persuaded or coerced into having sex with powerful men .
I dont see that as paedophilia tbh and calling it that belittles a particular heinous crime …imo.
Of course coercing young people into having sex with men and giving them freebies and career opportunities in return is tacky , wrong and supposedly traumatic for the victim but isn’t in the same league as true paedophilia .
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Post by Vinny on Oct 10, 2024 9:32:30 GMT
Orac, look it up. What I said is true.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2024 10:05:34 GMT
At least P Diddy has been exposed for what he is. All too often people in high places get away with this stuff and if the truth ever comes out at all it is usually only after they are dead. Saville was a close confidante of both royalty and Prime Minister Thatcher. I have long suspected the existence of high level and international paedophile rings, with those involved using their power to protect each other. There are too many examples of photographic evidence of close friendship interconnectedness between people not to have such suspicions. Those few who have been caught have usually been so as a result of a gross stupidity borne of an overconfidence in their own untouchability. Gary Glitter for example handed a laptop in for repair which had thousands of child porn images on it. How utterly stupid was that? I do think we have to assume that most active paedophiles in high places are not as stupid as that. Glitter might well have info on others but also probably knows he'd likely suffer a terrible death if he went public. I think it's quite likely. The taboos around pedophilia are so strong that it easily acts as a 'psychopathic sealant' (a sealant easily employed by psychopaths). A normal, unwary person might find themselves trapped by 'party' situations unless they are careful and, once trapped, there is no way out. The intelligence agencies have been using this way of compromising people for a while and there is clearly a giant conduit between intelligence agencies and politics. A hypothesis is powerful in proportion to the amount it explains multiplied by its its plausibility. In this case, the hypothesis explains a great deal and has no components that are particularly implausible - ie we know that psychopaths behave like this and would use this tool if it were available - and why wouldn't it be available? Which part of the puzzle is missing here? A detractor might say that there is no evidence. However, i would submit that there is evidence. How did Rosanne Bar know about Epstein's island in the nineties? You might say, well she's crazy - but the problem is the functional definition of crazy is that you are perpetually wrong and in this case she appears to be right (ie not crazy). We also have the circumstantial evidence surrounding the treatment of Epstein - his barely explicable 'position', the fact that he is charged and convicted of very serious crimes, but somehow escapes through the system and restarts the very same operation. How does this make any sense without the significant co-operation of 'the system'? Finally we have a set of weird coincidence surround his death - that when the lid seemed sure to be opened, he 'commits suicide' in close custody and all the normal things that would allow this fact to be confirmed beyond reasonable doubt are somehow, by pure coincidence, 'not working on that day' Science isn't purely about stating about what we know for sure, if it were it could state practically nothing. Science is partially about balancing what seems most likely true, given that coincidences are rare and that the universe itself is consistent and doesn't conspire. I would welcome a discussion about this btw.I would be happy to have such a discussion and will return to it later but the need to go to work is intruding right now. Just before I go I will just say that yes paedophile rings very much do exist and sometimes they get busted open. But the ones unlikely to be are the ones consisting of and catering for those nonces who happen to be rich and powerful. Anyone in a position to even begin to look into these will know it to both be unlikely to succeed and highly dangerous for themselves and their families to try. Far easier and safer to go for lesser fry. |
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