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Post by ProVeritas on Sept 29, 2024 16:26:51 GMT
That was not paedophilia at the time, it was common practice to marry orphans as there was no other protection. Across the Christian world puberty (around 12 years) was considered the right time for sex. You cannot compare different centuries with today, its just plain stupid. If you are arguing that laws made over a thousands years ago should not apply now you'd be right, but then you'd have to agree that in modern Muslim Pakistan the age of consent is upon marriage aged 16 years. What a load of shit . If that’s the case then we should be seperate ourselve away a cult that takes it morals and guidance from a barbaric culture made up by a warlord that would be considered ( rightly) a kiddie fiddler today. Interesting notion. Should we end the special relationship with the USA - some states of which have an age of consent as low as 13? Should we suspend trade with China where the age of consent is 14? Or Japan, where the age of consent is just 13? All The Best |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 29, 2024 16:30:47 GMT
What a load of shit . If that’s the case then we should be seperate ourselve away a cult that takes it morals and guidance from a barbaric culture made up by a warlord that would be considered ( rightly) a kiddie fiddler today. Interesting notion. Should we end the special relationship with the USA - some states of which have an age of consent as low as 13? Should we suspend trade with China where the age of consent is 14? Or Japan, where the age of consent is just 13? All The Best We should seperate ourselves from the culture that condones it . Reality dictates that we cant alway seperate ourselves from nation states . |
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Post by ProVeritas on Sept 29, 2024 16:36:35 GMT
Interesting notion. Should we end the special relationship with the USA - some states of which have an age of consent as low as 13? Should we suspend trade with China where the age of consent is 14? Or Japan, where the age of consent is just 13? All The Best We should seperate ourselves from the culture that condones it . Reality dictates that we cant alway seperate ourselves from nation states . Of course we can. Government could tomorrow pass legislation banning the import of all goods and services from nations whose age of consent is lower than 16. You'll rightly point out that would be harmful to the UK economy, and the wallet / purse of just about every man, woman and child in the country. It would be. So should we only take a moral stand on kiddie-fiddling when it doesn't cost us money? That isn't really moral at all, is it? Suddenly we are no more on the moral high-ground than Mohammed was when he consummated his marriage with Aisha. All The Best |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 29, 2024 16:45:55 GMT
We should seperate ourselves from the culture that condones it . Reality dictates that we cant alway seperate ourselves from nation states . Of course we can. Government could tomorrow pass legislation banning the import of all goods and services from nations whose age of consent is lower than 16. You'll rightly point out that would be harmful to the UK economy, and the wallet / purse of just about every man, woman and child in the country. It would be. So should we only take a moral stand on kiddie-fiddling when it doesn't cost us money? That isn't really moral at all, is it? Suddenly we are no more on the moral high-ground than Mohammed was when he consummated his marriage with Aisha. All The Best Hence the word ‘ reality’. Maybe practicality would have been better. Who’d of known that people need to compromise on our perceived morality in order to flourish. It’s called pragmatism Iirc. |
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Post by sandypine on Sept 29, 2024 16:51:08 GMT
Middle aged men cannot help being middle aged men so we should note that ….and we do . Children tend to be more suspicious of middle aged men than say elderly ladies . So that’s already happening. Followers of a dark age misogynistic, war like cult of a paedophile prophet can help it . If we imported millions of followers of a Hitler and Jimmy Saville appreciation cult and excused it on the grounds that most of them don’t follow it to the letter , lefties would be up in arms . For strange reason they seem to be cheer leaders of a similar cult . Mohammed was not a Paedophile, that old Chestnut is long dead. Neither can you assume that the acts of the grooming gangs had anything to do with their religious beliefs and certainly not what Muslims in general believe. Other than that you make my point for me. Stating that middle aged men are most likely to be the perpetrators of sex crime is meaningless without context. Well according to many of the victims it was specifically stated by their attackers that they were suffering because they were not Muslims and/or because they were white sluts yet the racially or religiously aggravating aspect was ignored. |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 29, 2024 17:39:58 GMT
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You agree and understand that you may be held legally responsible for damages suffered by other Website members or third-parties as the result of Your remarks, information, feedback or other content posted or made available on the Website that is deemed defamatory or otherwise legally actionable. Under the Federal Communications Decency Act of 1996, ProBoards is not legally responsible, nor can it be held liable for damages of any kind, arising out of or in connection to any defamatory or otherwise legally actionable remarks, information, feedback or other content posted or made available on the Website.Are you, however, aware that a Company's T&Cs can NOT trump the law. Doesn't matter what the T&Cs say, doesn't matter it we were forced to agree to them to post here, what matters is the law. For the record, the Federal Communications Decency Act of 1996 is American Legislation; it does not apply in outside of America. Pro-Boards has a legal duty to ensure the boards they host not only comply with US Law (as they are a US based company) but also the relevant laws that apply where those boards are Viewed / Used / Interacted with.No they don't - Proboards is owned by an American company based in America. Hence they have to comply with American Law. It is your decision to access a foreign website - it is not Proboards duty to ensure that their content complies with the Laws of the other 194 countries outside of the USA. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Sept 29, 2024 18:17:53 GMT
Are you, however, aware that a Company's T&Cs can NOT trump the law. Doesn't matter what the T&Cs say, doesn't matter it we were forced to agree to them to post here, what matters is the law. For the record, the Federal Communications Decency Act of 1996 is American Legislation; it does not apply in outside of America. Pro-Boards has a legal duty to ensure the boards they host not only comply with US Law (as they are a US based company) but also the relevant laws that apply where those boards are Viewed / Used / Interacted with.No they don't - Proboards is owned by an American company based in America. Hence they have to comply with American Law. It is your decision to access a foreign website - it is not Proboards duty to ensure that their content complies with the Laws of the other 194 countries outside of the USA. Well to test that utterly fucking stupid theory post something illegal. It won't be American Cops who come for you, it will be the UK Plod. All The Best |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 29, 2024 18:28:12 GMT
No they don't - Proboards is owned by an American company based in America. Hence they have to comply with American Law. It is your decision to access a foreign website - it is not Proboards duty to ensure that their content complies with the Laws of the other 194 countries outside of the USA. Well to test that utterly fucking stupid theory post something illegal. It won't be American Cops who come for you, it will be the UK Plod. All The Best Well andrewbrown is missing, he clearly breached what is social acceptable in any walk of life by claiming a poster was 'retarded' ... maybe the UK plod has him in handcuffs. |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 29, 2024 19:14:47 GMT
That was not paedophilia at the time, it was common practice to marry orphans as there was no other protection. Across the Christian world puberty (around 12 years) was considered the right time for sex. You cannot compare different centuries with today, its just plain stupid. If you are arguing that laws made over a thousands years ago should not apply now you'd be right, but then you'd have to agree that in modern Muslim Pakistan the age of consent is upon marriage aged 16 years. What a load of shit . If that’s the case then we should be seperate ourselve away a cult that takes it morals and guidance from a barbaric culture made up by a warlord that would be considered ( rightly) a kiddie fiddler today. No one can separate themselves from history, its not an item, its a record. All you can judge Muslims on is their laws today which on paedophilia and rape are tougher than ours. If you think history is now then you need to stop Christians burning witches and torturing unbelievers into believers. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 29, 2024 19:23:29 GMT
What a load of shit . If that’s the case then we should be seperate ourselve away a cult that takes it morals and guidance from a barbaric culture made up by a warlord that would be considered ( rightly) a kiddie fiddler today. No one can separate themselves from history, its not an item, its a record. All you can judge Muslims on is their laws today which on paedophilia and rape are tougher than ours. If you think history is now then you need to stop Christians burning witches and torturing unbelievers into believers. You forget that Muslims in this country the UK have to abide by our laws, in their own Country it is legal to have sex with a 'child' over the age of 9
In this country if they have sex with a 'child' under 16 they are pedophiles they are arrested and charged as 'pedophiles', so if they still want to follow their own customs/laws/Religion then they can fuck off back to their own Countries were it is LEGAL.
They want the laws changed in the UK as they feel they are being unfairly treated and it's against their human rights not to follow their customs and religion in the country known as the UK.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2024 19:25:08 GMT
Well to test that utterly fucking stupid theory post something illegal. It won't be American Cops who come for you, it will be the UK Plod. All The Best Well andrewbrown is missing, he clearly breached what is social acceptable in any walk of life by claiming a poster was 'retarded' ... maybe the UK plod has him in handcuffs. Well I know what he means. There are some who post on all sorts of forums whose cognitive abilities in terms of demonstrated intelligence appear to be doubtful. But we are still a mostly free country and they have their views too along with the right to express them. Kind of goes with the territory in places like this.. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 29, 2024 19:25:36 GMT
What a load of shit . If that’s the case then we should be seperate ourselve away a cult that takes it morals and guidance from a barbaric culture made up by a warlord that would be considered ( rightly) a kiddie fiddler today. No one can separate themselves from history, its not an item, its a record. All you can judge Muslims on is their laws today which on paedophilia and rape are tougher than ours. If you think history is now then you need to stop Christians burning witches and torturing unbelievers into believers. I judge Muslims on their culture and religious beliefs . Christians stopped burning witches centuries ago . Muslims oppress women and throw homosexuals from buildings now . The Christian church is so weak that gay men could sue a Christian couple for refusing to bake them a cake . Try that one in downtown Islamabad. Islam was founded by a paedophile Muslim culture reflects the misogyny and backwardness of the founder. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 29, 2024 19:38:00 GMT
Well andrewbrown is missing, he clearly breached what is social acceptable in any walk of life by claiming a poster was 'retarded' ... maybe the UK plod has him in handcuffs. Well I know what he means. There are some who post on all sorts of forums whose cognitive abilities in terms of demonstrated intelligence appear to be doubtful. But we are still a mostly free country and they have their views too along with the right to express them. Kind of goes with the territory in places like this.. Hello 'newbie' ... LOL
of course you are.
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Post by zanygame on Sept 29, 2024 19:38:17 GMT
That was not paedophilia at the time, it was common practice to marry orphans as there was no other protection. Across the Christian world puberty (around 12 years) was considered the right time for sex. You cannot compare different centuries with today, its just plain stupid. If you are arguing that laws made over a thousands years ago should not apply now you'd be right, but then you'd have to agree that in modern Muslim Pakistan the age of consent is upon marriage aged 16 years. So you are playing the moral relativism card. So, by that token, historical slavery was perfectly fine, because everyone was doing it, and there is therefore no need for reparations? I have an issue with the "marrying to protect as there was no other protection for orphans" bullshit; adoption would clearly be the more effective and less problematic route there, and there are clear guidelines for adoption in Islamic culture, going back to the founding of Islam . But there is still the very real major issue of consummating a marriage with a 9 year old girl. Some girls at 9 years old would be going through puberty, but it would be almost unheard of (except the very rare cases of precocious puberty) for a 9 year old to be post-pubescent (meaning biologically sexually mature). So there is no "biological imperative" to be consummating a marriage with a 9 year old. All The Best I will leave that bit Here's what the experts think. newlinesmag.com/essays/oxford-study-sheds-light-on-muhammad-underage-wife-aisha/At this time they live by very different rules to back then. |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 29, 2024 19:39:53 GMT
No one can separate themselves from history, its not an item, its a record. All you can judge Muslims on is their laws today which on paedophilia and rape are tougher than ours. If you think history is now then you need to stop Christians burning witches and torturing unbelievers into believers. You forget that Muslims in this country the UK have to abide by our laws, in their own Country it is legal to have sex with a 'child' over the age of 9
In this country if they have sex with a 'child' under 16 they are pedophiles they are arrested and charged as 'pedophiles', so if they still want to follow their own customs/laws/Religion then they can fuck off back to their own Countries were it is LEGAL.
They want the laws changed in the UK as they feel they are being unfairly treated and it's against their human rights not to follow their customs and religion in the country known as the UK.
No it isn't. Don't be so bloody lazy, look it up. |
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