Civilians must be ready to fight...

Wrong, I do not deny climate change never have never will.

None of us deny the climate change we just deny the reasons portrayed by the nut zero idiots...

So no proof then, just opinion.
So still totally unsubstantiated.

Just as I thought (well, knew actually).


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I remember the Nick Griffin QT appearance and all of the controversy around it in the build up to the recording. It might have been, on the face of it, a routine edition of QT but, of course, in all but the format of the show, it was an extraordinary “ one-off” moment in UK broadcasting history where everybody in the studio i.e. the panel, audience and chairperson alike, were acutely aware of this and were well researched in what Nick Griffin had said and done over the years . The panel members were also well prepared with strong anti-racist, anti-BNP and anti-Nick Griffin material - apart from Nick Griffin himself, of course, who was so far out of his depth and under constant attack from all around (every bit of it justified). That said, I have just watched the opening 15-20 minutes of that broadcast and it is not quite as you describe above. The opening question was short and precise and was very much a  question, not a statement, Jack Straw was first up  in response and he did so by reading out a pre-prepared answer (perhaps this is what you mistakenly remember as the opening question?) following which Nick Griffin was given time and space to answer without interruption, as you say above. Some old Griffin quotes then began to get rolled out at Nick Griffin, many of which he either agreed to having made, others he claimed were disgraceful slurs that he denied making - although he finally conceded on some of these when panel members pointed out that there were YouTube clips of him saying exactly what he had just denied saying. He was unconvincing with many of his denials but even if there were some things that he was wrongly accused of saying ( which I doubt given the things that he admitted to saying or did not dispute), then it made no difference in substance. My underlying feeling from watching this segment of the show again is that much of the discussion that the panel and the audience were obliged to indulge in, thanks to Nick Griffin’s presence, and that the tv audience was subjected to, was way below the normal standard of discourse and subject matter that we are generally accustomed to.

I was travelling for most of the recent GE campaign so saw very little of what was going on, including the leaders’ specials chaired by Fiona Bruce. I have just watched the Nigel Farage half hour slot and he did take a bit of a pounding from the audience and there was no evidence of support for Reform amongst its ranks. I think that the pounding from the many was inevitable given how reviled Nigel Farage is amongst a sizeable majority of voters and given that there appears to have been a drip feed of scandals involving Reform candidates and also from some actor type at a Reform event in the run up to the show. I was a bit puzzled about the lack of support from the audience but that could well be because the audience was made up of representative proportions of the votes per party at the last (i.e. 2019) GE, when there was no Reform Party and its predecessor, the Brexit Party, only got 2% of the vote which would have translated into maybe 4 Reform types in the audience of 200. Given the clear antipathy on display towards Nigel Farage from the majority of the audience (much like the population at large, of course) it is perhaps not surprising that the few Reform types there would have kept their mouths shut and sat on their hands. One thing that I did notice, when the discussion with Farage eventually moved away from racism and immigration, was that the intensity levels amongst the audience subsided considerably and that Farage was listened to with relative calm and with interest.

In different ways, Nick Griffin’s and Nigel Farage’s appearances above were not typical for QT, Griffin’s in particular being an extraordinary event, so pointing at them as examples of what is wrong with the regular QT offering and QT audience configuration has limited merit in my view.

Well, given the BBC had been turned into a political football, and was constantly being threatened, by the last tory regime it is hardly surprising they stacked the panel in favour of the right.

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The thread is about civilians fighting for their country but as usual the left do not like the truth so they do their dambdest to change the subject and when that doesn't work they play the ad homs card..