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Post by ProVeritas on Sept 27, 2024 23:39:44 GMT
I might spend some moments speed watching the iPlayer then.... Normally we get snippets in the press the next day from Question Time..
Which should have gone something like ..
'Bruce didn't know that the UK take in more per capita in migrants than France does' .. she had to be told by management earpiece.
'Asked for a show of hands in the audience how many backed Reform in the General Election .... THREE put their hands up .... confirming the audience is bias..
Why are the press giving up on reporting negativity towards the lefties now they are in power?
Well, unless the QT audience is well over 100 people (and I don't think it typically is) then 3 could be over-representation based on the general election results, where Reform managed to win just 1% of seats. Yes, I know FPTP is disproportionally unfair to smaller parties (and is in fact unfair to all parties), and Reform should have had more seats, but Reform knew the rules before they agreed to play the game. I am guessing Reform would make up more of the audience in QT when it comes from areas with a higher level of voter support for Reform; at least that is how I would hope it worked. All The Best |
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Post by andrewbrown on Sept 28, 2024 0:14:14 GMT
'Asked for a show of hands in the audience how many backed Reform in the General Election .... THREE put their hands up .... confirming the audience is bias.. You have already been told that this is incorrect, so why repeat it? Come on FS, you're better than that. |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Sept 28, 2024 1:02:35 GMT
There are quite a few young immigrant men itching for a fight ... and I'm sure there's plenty more where they came from willing to help out in return for citizenship. Why should we Brits put our lives on the line? Mind you ... the Carthaginian armies were mainly mercenaries ... and look what happened to them?
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Post by happyjack on Sept 28, 2024 3:27:22 GMT
What was your opinion on Zia Yusuf? It's the first time I've seen him in action, he came across clued up, especially when he asked Bruce how many Reform were in the audience and she said a lot, when asked for a show of hands THREE PUT THEIR HANDS UP ... poor old Bruce had a bad night ...... LOL This summation is not what happened. It presents Zia Yusuf in a much more favourable light than his part in this interaction warrants whilst making it sound like Fiona Bruce was struggling when, in fact, she was confident, firm and correct throughout this exchange. it kicked off with a member of the audience politely saying that she felt that Reform had only really spoken in hypotheticals, had been critical of the Tories and Labour’s efforts while not putting forward much in way of a policy, and asked what would Reform do that was so much different from Conservatives and Labour. This received moderate applause from the audience which clearly irked Yusuf because he petulantly and sarcastically responded by saying that the audience was clearly another representative Question Time audience given that Reform won whatever it was that they won in the GE. Bruce came straight in and explained that the audience contained a representative proportion of people who voted Reform and added that she didn’t know if any of these people wanted to put their hands up. Four people raised their hands to which Yusuf said “three”, meaning that there were three Reform voters in the audience. Bruce responded that it was not three, explained that she asked how many people wanted to put their hands up, and made the fair point.that was a very different matter (to how many Reform supporters were in the audience). She the invited one of those who had raised his hand to speak. I don’t see how that is consistent with Bruce having a bad night or with Yusuf appearing clued up on this matter. |
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 28, 2024 6:57:25 GMT
Anyone who believes that QT audiences are representative of anything except the biases of the BBC should not be allowed out unsupervised.
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Post by Handyman on Sept 28, 2024 7:15:30 GMT
Anyone who believes that QT audiences are representative of anything except the biases of the BBC should not be allowed out unsupervised. I agree carefully selected unless it has change some years ago a friend and I applied to attend first we had to complete a questionnaire giving them our personal details occupation, age, where you lived, who you voted for a long list. They then replied we will let you know when the show comes to your area, some months later tickets arrived when we arrived they asked to write out what question we would like to ask the panel, they selected the ones allowed to ask their question. It was a farce IMHO an orchestrated farce waste of time, never watched it since |
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Post by sandypine on Sept 28, 2024 7:24:40 GMT
It's the first time I've seen him in action, he came across clued up, especially when he asked Bruce how many Reform were in the audience and she said a lot, when asked for a show of hands THREE PUT THEIR HANDS UP ... poor old Bruce had a bad night ...... LOL This summation is not what happened. It presents Zia Yusuf in a much more favourable light than his part in this interaction warrants whilst making it sound like Fiona Bruce was struggling when, in fact, she was confident, firm and correct throughout this exchange. it kicked off with a member of the audience politely saying that she felt that Reform had only really spoken in hypotheticals, had been critical of the Tories and Labour’s efforts while not putting forward much in way of a policy, and asked what would Reform do that was so much different from Conservatives and Labour. This received moderate applause from the audience which clearly irked Yusuf because he petulantly and sarcastically responded by saying that the audience was clearly another representative Question Time audience given that Reform won whatever it was that they won in the GE. Bruce came straight in and explained that the audience contained a representative proportion of people who voted Reform and added that she didn’t know if any of these people wanted to put their hands up. Four people raised their hands to which Yusuf said “three”, meaning that there were three Reform voters in the audience. Bruce responded that it was not three, explained that she asked how many people wanted to put their hands up, and made the fair point.that was a very different matter (to how many Reform supporters were in the audience). She the invited one of those who had raised his hand to speak. I don’t see how that is consistent with Bruce having a bad night or with Yusuf appearing clued up on this matter. Confidence comes with knowing that one is playing with a stacked deck. We have clearly seen in the past how QT producers play the game. Planting articulate questioners (sometimes getting it wrong) and loading the weight of opinion of an audience to a specific side or against a specific side. Farage's election special QT was so loaded as to be unrecognisable as any representation of the British electorate with the usual enthusiastic clapping for anti-Farage comments and subdued murmurs when Farage hit home. Yusuf was obviously expecting the same and was unsettled by actually having supporters in the audience. However given that we can plainly see the games that QT production has played in the past the truth of any QT audience will be forever questioned and that is the fault of QT itself and its obvious intent to unsettle those it finds against QT principles, which should not exist. It should only be what it once was, many years ago, a platform for open and honest debate. Those days are long gone. |
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Post by sheepy on Sept 28, 2024 7:58:43 GMT
LOL well they have sat back and watched as a foreign entity has all but destroyed their way of life, so don't be expecting a big queue to fight for a bunch of arseholes running the place.
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 28, 2024 8:43:08 GMT
'Asked for a show of hands in the audience how many backed Reform in the General Election .... THREE put their hands up .... confirming the audience is bias.. You have already been told that this is incorrect, so why repeat it? Come on FS, you're better than that. Three members of the audience raised their hands with the question relating to Reform, regardless of whether the question was how many voted Reform or how many support Reform, unless you are suggesting that there were more Reform in the audience they were either deaf or didn't understand the question. |
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Post by happyjack on Sept 28, 2024 9:06:03 GMT
She didn’t ask how many voted Reform nor how many support Reform. Strictly speaking, she didn’t ask a question at all. What she said was “ we have a representative proportion of people in here who voted Reform. Now, I don’t know if any of you want to put your hands up” at which point 4 hands were raised and one of the 4 given the opportunity to speak. It is unlikely that the remainder of Reform voters in the audience were deaf or failed to understand what Fiona Bruce was saying, they simply didn’t want to put their hands up to identify themselves as Reform voters or to be given the opportunity to say something.
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Post by happyjack on Sept 28, 2024 9:46:14 GMT
I gave a go at watching Question Time last night, because I can't stick lefty Bruce. Obviously the boat people came up, the Reform panelist pointed out they were coming from France not a worn torn country, and he also pointed out that the UK take in more per capita than France. Bruce rudely interrupted him and said "we do not, it is important that we state facts on this programme" Lo and behold a few moments later after the manager had a word in her earpiece Bruce said .... "I apologise, you were right the UK does take in more per capita than France" ........ fuckin lefty nearly chocked apologising. This is another misrepresentation of what actually happened on the show. It was Zia Yusuf who did the interrupting here, not Fiona Bruce, when he, rudely or otherwise, cut across what Carla Denyer was saying to make his point about the per capita comparison with France. Fiona Bruce said nothing about this at that point, waiting instead until Carla Denyer had finished speaking to say “France does take more per capita in terms of asylum seekers than we do” not what you wrongly accuse her of saying above. At the end of the conversation on that topic, before moving on to the next, she simply corrected her earlier mistake by confirming that Zia Yusuf was right in his per capita intake comment, and did so in the same professionally neutral manner that she generally comports herself on QT, not in the way that you describe above. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 28, 2024 10:11:26 GMT
I gave a go at watching Question Time last night, because I can't stick lefty Bruce. Obviously the boat people came up, the Reform panelist pointed out they were coming from France not a worn torn country, and he also pointed out that the UK take in more per capita than France. Bruce rudely interrupted him and said "we do not, it is important that we state facts on this programme" Lo and behold a few moments later after the manager had a word in her earpiece Bruce said .... "I apologise, you were right the UK does take in more per capita than France" ........ fuckin lefty nearly chocked apologising. This is another misrepresentation of what actually happened on the show. It was Zia Yusuf who did the interrupting here, not Fiona Bruce, when he, rudely or otherwise, cut across what Carla Denyer was saying to make his point about the per capita comparison with France. Fiona Bruce said nothing about this at that point, waiting instead until Carla Denyer had finished speaking to say “France does take more per capita in terms of asylum seekers than we do” not what you wrongly accuse her of saying above. At the end of the conversation on that topic, before moving on to the next, she simply corrected her earlier mistake by confirming that Zia Yusuf was right in his per capita intake comment, and did so in the same professionally neutral manner that she generally comports herself on QT, not in the way that you describe above. Why are you mincing words?
Yusuf said the UK took more per capita of migrants than France
Bruce said ..."No we don't" in her usual lefty put me down tone.
Her earpiece told her ..... "No, it is you who is wrong, Yusuf was correct, the UK do take in more migrants per capita"
Why was Bruce saying what she thought instead of checking her facts first, she's a typical lefty ready to jump and tear into anyone right wing, while she gives the lefties on the panel and easy ride.
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Post by happyjack on Sept 28, 2024 10:20:39 GMT
I am not mincing words, just stating accurately and neutrally what actually happened and what was actually said rather than skewing and creating circumstances and dialogue that did not happen to make politically biased points.
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 28, 2024 10:42:35 GMT
I am not mincing words, just stating accurately and neutrally what actually happened and what was actually said rather than skewing and creating circumstances and dialogue that did not happen to make politically biased points. Well you can dress it up how you like, but the fact of the matter lefty Bruce is abrupt and abrasive with any right wing politician or right wing supporter on the panel, ready to pounce on them or 'correct' them even when she is wrong, while she gives the leftist on the panel a easy ride, never pressing them on touchy subjects, she's rubbish at her job because she is suppose to be impartial if she was professional we wouldn't be able to tell what her political preference , but she's not professional it it glaringly obvious by her bias that she is a lefty supporter. |
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Post by happyjack on Sept 28, 2024 10:50:25 GMT
The only one dressing anything up here is you. I am simply stating what actually happened and what was actually said as a quick check on iplayer will confirm .
If you really believe what you say above about Fiona Bruce then you must consider the Green Party to be right wing because she had Carla Denyer squirming over the Green ‘s immigration policy during the same discussion.
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