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Post by jonksy on Oct 8, 2024 11:13:12 GMT
The initial COVID situation was fear ,chaos and blind alleys . The government made a good stab at it imo. I agree. They were dammed if the did and were dammed if they didn't. We can thank our lucky stars that 2T keir wasn't infesting no 10 at that time...
And as for the troll....It's just the usual crap we have all heard a million times before from the left who have their bollocks swinging fromir the chin...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2024 12:58:58 GMT
The initial COVID situation was fear ,chaos and blind alleys . The government made a good stab at it imo. I agree. They were dammed if the did and were dammed if they didn't. We can thank our lucky stars that 2T keir wasn't infesting no 10 at that time...
And as for the troll....It's just the usual crap we have all heard a million times before from the left who have their bollocks swinging fromir the chin... Talking of bollocks, aren't you overdue for yet another link to the Daily Mail?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2024 13:00:32 GMT
Against Labour i would defend a baboon. You'd probably vote for one too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2024 13:01:48 GMT
25 billion was wasted alone on track and trace that didnt even work. And many of the PPE contracts went to their mates who had no history of manufacturing such goods and if they supplied anything at all it was often shoddy and unusable. And billions just disappeared apparently without trace. But then again, if a baboon's arse had a blue rosette on it, you'd defend it In what way didnt it work?. The testing infrastructure went from practically zero to almost a million a day and the contact tracing was managing to track around 85% of contacts. Now whether the exercise was worthwhile is another matter, but I don't think you can claim it didnt work. Well let's just say it didnt work very well for the vast sums spent on it.
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Post by Vinny on Oct 8, 2024 13:08:25 GMT
pretty much everywhere was stolen from someone else at one time or another. So might is right? Si vis pacem, para bellum. If you want peace, prepare for war.
The better prepared we are for it, the less risk of us finding ourselves in a war.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 8, 2024 13:31:21 GMT
I agree. They were dammed if the did and were dammed if they didn't. We can thank our lucky stars that 2T keir wasn't infesting no 10 at that time...
And as for the troll....It's just the usual crap we have all heard a million times before from the left who have their bollocks swinging fromir the chin... Talking of bollocks, aren't you overdue for yet another link to the Daily Mail? You are mistaking me for someone who gives a fuck...You are just another lefty troll who has fucked off from here and found the grass wasn't greener..
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Post by jonksy on Oct 8, 2024 14:05:57 GMT
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 8, 2024 14:12:06 GMT
Talking of bollocks, aren't you overdue for yet another link to the Daily Mail? You are mistaking me for someone who gives a fuck...You are just another lefty troll who has fucked off from here and found the grass wasn't greener.. Shrieks is proof positive that lefties don't even like each other should their views vary even minutely. The left are intolerant haters.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 8, 2024 14:36:06 GMT
Labour poll lead over Tories falls to one point....... The poll, conducted between Oct 5 and 7, put Labour on 29 per cent of the vote and the Tories narrowly behind on 28 per cent. Labour was down by one point compared with More in Common’s previous poll conducted between Sept 24 and 25, while the Conservatives were up by two points. The numbers represent a significant fall in support for Labour after a tumultuous first three months in power. Sir Keir Starmer’s ratings plummeted since July’s election in the wake of rows over freebie donations and anger over the Government’s unpopular winter fuel raid. In contrast, the party secured almost 34 per cent of the vote at the general election in July, with the Tories on just under 24 per cent. It comes as separate polling by YouGov released on Tuesday showed that Nigel Farage is now as divisive as Sir Keir Starmer, of whom 63 per cent have an unfavourable view, compared with 27 per cent who have a positive one.
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 8, 2024 17:01:08 GMT
In what way didnt it work?. The testing infrastructure went from practically zero to almost a million a day and the contact tracing was managing to track around 85% of contacts. Now whether the exercise was worthwhile is another matter, but I don't think you can claim it didnt work. Well let's just say it didnt work very well for the vast sums spent on it. Well setting up the labs and then carrying testing on a mass scale was never going to be cheap. Was there a cheaper way of carrying out a million tests a day?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2024 17:53:30 GMT
Si vis pacem, para bellum. If you want peace, prepare for war.
The better prepared we are for it, the less risk of us finding ourselves in a war.
I fail to see what use a remote island in the middle of nowhere is going to be to us if we find ourselves in a shooting war. We are niot a global powere anymore and should focus our resources at home and in our own backyard.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2024 17:55:56 GMT
Talking of bollocks, aren't you overdue for yet another link to the Daily Mail? You are mistaking me for someone who gives a fuck...You are just another lefty troll who has fucked off from here and found the grass wasn't greener.. The only reason that you are not joining several others on my ignore list is that I frequently enjoy laughing at you.
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Post by Vinny on Oct 8, 2024 18:14:14 GMT
Si vis pacem, para bellum. If you want peace, prepare for war.
The better prepared we are for it, the less risk of us finding ourselves in a war.
I fail to see what use a remote island in the middle of nowhere is going to be to us if we find ourselves in a shooting war. We are niot a global powere anymore and should focus our resources at home and in our own backyard. Look at it's geographical position and worth to the allies. A staging ground, a logistics hub, an aircraft carrier that cannot be sunk, a base for tanker aircraft, for bombers, it provides reach. But we are still members of NATO, our allies face threats, the better prepared to help that we all are, the less risk of any of us ending up in a shooting war.
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Post by wapentake on Oct 8, 2024 19:05:35 GMT
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Post by Bentley on Oct 8, 2024 19:07:57 GMT
Two years ago “ Keir Starmer has said Labour’s plan to freeze energy bills, funded in part by an expanded windfall tax, is the radical approach needed to help households and reduce inflation, contrasting it with the inaction of a “lame duck” government. In a round of media interviews on Monday morning intended to seize the initiative on the crisis, the Labour leader rejected the idea he had been too slow to propose a solution, given he was on holiday last week. Under the proposals, the energy price cap would be frozen at the current level, meaning a planned 80% rise in October, taking the average household bill to about £3,600, would not happen. Quizzed on why he was spending close to £30bn on a scheme that also assisted better-off people, Starmer said that while some other targeted measures would remain in place, his was the best overall approach.”www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/15/keir-starmer-radical-plan-freeze-energy-bills-needed-cut-inflationAngela Rayner 5 years ago “ Today is the ninth anniversary of one of the most astonishing acts of hypocrisy in British political history.
In the 2010 general election, the Liberal Democrats built their campaign around a pledge to abolish tuition fees. By the end of that year, however, they had tripled them instead.The Liberal Democrats had made young people feel as if they were on their side. They were not. After they formed a coalition government, the party immediately propped up their new friends in government by supporting the so-called emergency budget of June 2010.” www.independent.co.uk/voices/general-election-liberal-democrats-betrayed-students-tuition-fees-labour-a9238786.htmlTuition fees to rise “ University tuition fees will rise with inflation, hitting £10,500 in the next five years, it has been reported. The government is drawing up plans which will see university tuition fees, which have been frozen since 2017, rise by 13.5 per cent over the next five years according to The Times.28 Sept 2024” www.independent.co.uk/news/education/university-tuition-fees-labour-rising-b2620447.html
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