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Post by jonksy on Sept 24, 2024 8:18:50 GMT
It must be difficult for these Labour politicians to pretend they represent the working class when they are all multi millionaires, with expense homes, debt free, huge savings, holidays to ‘donor’ mansions, personal photographers, designer clothes ‘gifted’, and yet they expect someone earning minimum wage struggling to pay for shopping to believe they represent them......
2TK pays off mortgage on his £2million London townhouse.....
The mortgage on steamers £2 million townhouse has been paid off, official documents show.
Sir Keir and Lady Starmer have achieved what many homeowners can only dream of – putting them in the top one-third of English homeowners in not having to make mortgage or rent payments.
The four-bedroom property, in north London’s trendy Kentish Town, officially became mortgage-free on Monday last week.
There was previously a loan from Barclays Bank noted on the Land Registry title deed, a public document. But on September 16, it was updated to show the loan has been ‘discharged’, meaning the high-street bank no longer retains any rights over the four-storey terraced house.
Previously the Labour leader has politically ‘weaponised’ his mortgage to attack the Conservatives. While in opposition, he condemned then-PM Rishi Sunak for failing to understand the anguish caused by rising mortgage rates.
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Post by piglet on Sept 24, 2024 8:46:36 GMT
To be mortgage or rent free is a good thing, its only when those things dissappear do you realise how much money the banks and mortgage companies make. When i became mortgage free the tsb didnt want to know, they put barriers up to prevent me making a final payment, were unavailable, charged a fee. They want to keep you in debt, encourage you to get into even more debt by increasing your mortgage for home improvements etc.
Even though i have money, the cost of stuff is horrendous, it dissappears quickly, even though i have a bit, the value of it is disgustingly low, its like having bundles of Monopoly cash, but it only buys a stick of chewing gum.
If you are in debt you are a slave, you are being ripped off, so in that sense Starmer is right. If you are in debt make it no 1 priority to pay it off, you are bleeding to death slowly, or in some cases, fast.
This is central to how the country is run, that being in debt, being able to judge how much the government can borrow and pay back is seriously wrong.
Put me in charge, i will pave the streets with gold, benefits will be top draw, we can bristle with new tanks nuclear weapons.....and still have a zillion in the bank. The government is so incompetent it takes my breath away, it chooses to be bankrupt, of all the oxbridge trained economists....the only task they have is to keep debt repayable.
And have failed. The debt we have cannot be paid back, we are bankrupt.
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Post by Vinny on Sept 24, 2024 11:33:35 GMT
That man is a complete and total arsehole. The kind of hubris it takes to stand for leader, after personally causing the party's worst defeat in living memory. Incredible.
I cannot stand him. Labour need a better leader (a Brexit backing leader).
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Post by see2 on Sept 25, 2024 22:43:20 GMT
It must be difficult for these Labour politicians to pretend they represent the working class when they are all multi millionaires, with expense homes, debt free, huge savings, holidays to ‘donor’ mansions, personal photographers, designer clothes ‘gifted’, and yet they expect someone earning minimum wage struggling to pay for shopping to believe they represent them......
2TK pays off mortgage on his £2million London townhouse.....
The mortgage on steamers £2 million townhouse has been paid off, official documents show.
Sir Keir and Lady Starmer have achieved what many homeowners can only dream of – putting them in the top one-third of English homeowners in not having to make mortgage or rent payments.
The four-bedroom property, in north London’s trendy Kentish Town, officially became mortgage-free on Monday last week.
There was previously a loan from Barclays Bank noted on the Land Registry title deed, a public document. But on September 16, it was updated to show the loan has been ‘discharged’, meaning the high-street bank no longer retains any rights over the four-storey terraced house.
Previously the Labour leader has politically ‘weaponised’ his mortgage to attack the Conservatives. While in opposition, he condemned then-PM Rishi Sunak for failing to understand the anguish caused by rising mortgage rates.
I'd put my money on most top politicians from both parties are very rich people, some by enjoying large inheritances and some by pulling themselves up by their own bootstraps, I suspect Starmer is in the latter group. That the daily shame highlights Starmer's position is typical childish Rightist garbage. If the government can repair the damage done to the economy then everyone will benefit in the future. i.e. use the system for the benefit of the many not the few.
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Post by see2 on Sept 25, 2024 22:46:02 GMT
That man is a complete and total arsehole. The kind of hubris it takes to stand for leader, after personally causing the party's worst defeat in living memory. Incredible. I cannot stand him. Labour need a better leader (a Brexit backing leader). Starmer has no option other than to back Brexit, the EU has made that very clear.
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Post by see2 on Sept 25, 2024 22:51:50 GMT
“Over a million pensioners will still receive the winter fuel payment, while many others will also benefit from the £150 warm home discount to help with their energy bills over winter, and we have already seen a 115% increase in pension credit claims following the launch of our awareness campaign.”
How many pensioners are there like myself and my wife, both over eighty, who do not need the WFA?
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Sept 26, 2024 3:13:47 GMT
Starmer could cover the cost of the Winter Fuel Allowance by upping the Inheritance Tax to 50% (from the current 40%).
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Post by sandypine on Sept 26, 2024 7:54:39 GMT
“Over a million pensioners will still receive the winter fuel payment, while many others will also benefit from the £150 warm home discount to help with their energy bills over winter, and we have already seen a 115% increase in pension credit claims following the launch of our awareness campaign.”How many pensioners are there like myself and my wife, both over eighty, who do not need the WFA? 'Need' is a tricky word. My wife and I are very careful and as such have more than enough to meet all our needs despite having an income not much above pension credit levels. We do not 'need' the WFA. A couple who go on two cruises in the spring and autumn may find their income stretched a bit as the electric bills came in at Christmas. They 'need' the WFA.
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Post by ratcliff on Sept 27, 2024 16:02:31 GMT
“Over a million pensioners will still receive the winter fuel payment, while many others will also benefit from the £150 warm home discount to help with their energy bills over winter, and we have already seen a 115% increase in pension credit claims following the launch of our awareness campaign.”How many pensioners are there like myself and my wife, both over eighty, who do not need the WFA? So in the opinion of your beloved labour party , a couple such as an uber lefty like you (your wife might be more sensible - dunno?) who receive a pension even marginally in excess of £332.95 a week (£166.48 pp) are justifiably far too wealthy to ''need'' a contribution equivalent to 0.82p per day(for over 80s) to your fuel bill. Good for you - hope you have a warm jumper and get thermal PJs for xmas
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Post by ratcliff on Sept 27, 2024 16:09:35 GMT
Starmer could cover the cost of the Winter Fuel Allowance by upping the Inheritance Tax to 50% (from the current 40%). Far better to reduce government spending by 50% , reduce working age benefits packages to a total of 75% full time minimum wage , restrict claiming working age benefits to a maximum of 5 years between ages 18-66 (or OAP age - whatever that currently is) Stop all the made up MH/''anxiety'' payouts (the new ''bad back'' and make people take personal responsibility for their lives Why on earth ae we now feeding breakfast to all primary schoolkids? That's their parents' job - not mine
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 27, 2024 16:41:24 GMT
Starmer could cover the cost of the Winter Fuel Allowance by upping the Inheritance Tax to 50% (from the current 40%). Far better to reduce government spending by 50% , reduce working age benefits packages to a total of 75% full time minimum wage , restrict claiming working age benefits to a maximum of 5 years between ages 18-66 (or OAP age - whatever that currently is) Stop all the made up MH/''anxiety'' payouts (the new ''bad back'' and make people take personal responsibility for their lives Why on earth ae we now feeding breakfast to all primary schoolkids?
That's their parents' job - not mine For the same reason that we are subsidising people to buy their next Porsche - there is simply too much government. We need to reign in Public spending and do that by getting the government to do less.
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Post by johnofgwent on Sept 28, 2024 8:02:17 GMT
Starmer could cover the cost of the Winter Fuel Allowance by upping the Inheritance Tax to 50% (from the current 40%). Far better to reduce government spending by 50% , reduce working age benefits packages to a total of 75% full time minimum wage , restrict claiming working age benefits to a maximum of 5 years between ages 18-66 (or OAP age - whatever that currently is) Stop all the made up MH/''anxiety'' payouts (the new ''bad back'' and make people take personal responsibility for their lives Why on earth ae we now feeding breakfast to all primary schoolkids? That's their parents' job - not mine Ah yes. School kids Here's the reality In the 1960's the ratio of house prices to average income meant that most married couples with children who were in the process of buying a home with a mortgage could manage on ONE income plus the tax allowances society granted a married man in expectation he would provide for his family. In our street a number of wives had part time jobs and one woman who lost her husband in a dodgy overseas oilfield caper with mercenaries in Nigeria worked full time. A veritable army of grandparents uncles and aunts across the street ran a rota system. With my grandmother a permanent resident we could count on a supply of free beer from the guy across the road who gave grandma free Guinness from his brewery job employee allowance in exchange for her looking after his daughter with us from 4 to six. Simon, the son of the widow I mentioned, got looked after from about 8 till coming to school with me, then from 4 till his mum came home at 6 because that was the right thing to do. From time to time we'd be looked after for a few hours in our friend's house etc etc. Professional Childcare was just unheard of. Today however Debt To Income ratios of six to one and upwards ensure that a couple with a mortgage have nothing left after two full time jobs. My eldest, when she worked in a nursery, started to receive kids from 6am from parents rushing off to their two hour office commute. She would feed them, take them to school, collect them after school ended, bring them back to the nursery, feed them dinner and help with homework until their parent collected them at 6pm Throughout the year most of the children saw more of my daughter and her fellow workers than their own parents. The cost was extortionate not that Sarah saw much of it. That's why kids eat at breakfast clubs Government Policy and what it does to housing costs
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Post by piglet on Sept 28, 2024 9:12:59 GMT
The damage to children is huge, none of this is factored in when it comes to calculating the cost of living. If you want to bring up your children properly, you are asking for penury. Its shocking how inadequate successive governments are, and how the British people pay, literally and emotionally. All governments only care about themselves, they are blind in so many ways, they are not stupid, theres something wrong.....its deliberate, bankrupting the west.
Truly we are in hell.
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Post by ratcliff on Sept 28, 2024 10:28:48 GMT
Far better to reduce government spending by 50% , reduce working age benefits packages to a total of 75% full time minimum wage , restrict claiming working age benefits to a maximum of 5 years between ages 18-66 (or OAP age - whatever that currently is) Stop all the made up MH/''anxiety'' payouts (the new ''bad back'' and make people take personal responsibility for their lives Why on earth ae we now feeding breakfast to all primary schoolkids? That's their parents' job - not mine Ah yes. School kids Here's the reality In the 1960's the ratio of house prices to average income meant that most married couples with children who were in the process of buying a home with a mortgage could manage on ONE income plus the tax allowances society granted a married man in expectation he would provide for his family. In our street a number of wives had part time jobs and one woman who lost her husband in a dodgy overseas oilfield caper with mercenaries in Nigeria worked full time. A veritable army of grandparents uncles and aunts across the street ran a rota system. With my grandmother a permanent resident we could count on a supply of free beer from the guy across the road who gave grandma free Guinness from his brewery job employee allowance in exchange for her looking after his daughter with us from 4 to six. Simon, the son of the widow I mentioned, got looked after from about 8 till coming to school with me, then from 4 till his mum came home at 6 because that was the right thing to do. From time to time we'd be looked after for a few hours in our friend's house etc etc. Professional Childcare was just unheard of. Today however Debt To Income ratios of six to one and upwards ensure that a couple with a mortgage have nothing left after two full time jobs. My eldest, when she worked in a nursery, started to receive kids from 6am from parents rushing off to their two hour office commute. She would feed them, take them to school, collect them after school ended, bring them back to the nursery, feed them dinner and help with homework until their parent collected them at 6pm Throughout the year most of the children saw more of my daughter and her fellow workers than their own parents. The cost was extortionate not that Sarah saw much of it. That's why kids eat at breakfast clubs Government Policy and what it does to housing costs Yes - BUT Your daughter worked in a nursery where the parents paid for childcare out of their own money - not mine The case for feeding all primary kids breakfast in school FOC out of taxpayers money is allegedly that many kids go to school in the morning suposedly ''starving'' as their waste of oxygen parents neglect to feed them - preferring to spend their taxpayer funded benefits on booze/fags/tattoos /sky tv /trendy trainers/drugs etc Thus letting parents abdicate all responsibility for the nutrition of their own children . I repeat it should be the parents responsibility to feed their children - not mine
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Post by witchfinder on Sept 28, 2024 11:26:50 GMT
Within this argument about pensioners ( the group in society with the MOST disposable income ), there is one indisputable fact.
That fact is that : All pensioners will be better off at the end of this Parliament than they are now, thanks to the Triple Lock which Labour have pledged to keep in place.
Pensioners are more likely to vote Conservative, a very good reason for a Conservative government to introduce the Triple Lock and give our pensioners handsome pay rises every year. At the same time since 2011, road sweepers, nurses, teachers, junior doctors, police officers and most public sector workers all saw their living standards fall.
This time next year ALL pensioners will be better off, same as last year, same as the year after next, and that is despite withdrawing the Winter Fuel Payment to most pensioners.
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