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Post by jonksy on Sept 20, 2024 23:42:19 GMT
Unless the victim is a child and the offender is an adult of British Pakistani Muslim heritage. The police have 'apologised', more than once, for ignoring this abhorrent crime. I'd like to say this is an excellent read, but it isn't. It's an absolute travesty of so called justice.  I agree it has happened too often but not just with Asian Men , Saville was not charged because parents refused to allow their kids to give evidence in a Court But it wasn't just children that saville rogered. How many adults who had deseased did that arsehole violate. |
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Post by Handyman on Sept 20, 2024 23:46:00 GMT
I agree it has happened too often but not just with Asian Men , Saville was not charged because parents refused to allow their kids to give evidence in a Court But it wasn't just children that saville rogered. How many adults who had deseased did that arsehole violate. I am not certain but I think a couple of nurses did claim he sexually assaulted them after his death, if they had come forward before he died he could have been charged |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 20, 2024 23:46:51 GMT
I agree it has happened too often but not just with Asian Men , Saville was not charged because parents refused to allow their kids to give evidence in a Court That is rubbish, and you probably know it. However, as bad as Savile's crimes were, and he was a monster, they pale into insignificance when compared to thousands of children who since 1976 (First reported Pakistani grooming gang case) have been victims of a crime that has been consistently played down by the establishment. |
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Post by Handyman on Sept 20, 2024 23:55:28 GMT
I agree it has happened too often but not just with Asian Men , Saville was not charged because parents refused to allow their kids to give evidence in a Court That is rubbish, and you probably know it. However, as bad as Savile's crimes were, and he was a monster, they pale into insignificance when compared to thousands of children who since 1976 (First reported Pakistani grooming gang case) have been victims of a crime that has been consistently played down by the establishment. Like it or not Rapists can be and are from different nationalities, yes we know now that Police, Social Services, and Child Welfare Officers said nothing because they were afraid of being accused of Racism back then |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 21, 2024 0:13:45 GMT
Like it or not Rapists can be and are from different nationalities, yes we know now that Police, Social Services, and Child Welfare Officers said nothing because they were afraid of being accused of Racism back then Rape has been a fact of life since man walked upright, in every society. However, type 1 (the most serious) CSE offences (Child sexual exploitation) in 21st century UK falls within the explicit domain of so called 'grooming gangs' of Pakistani, or Pakistani heritage. This is a cancer that has been overlooked for fear of causing offence, I could scream with frustration. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 21, 2024 0:18:37 GMT
Sexual assault can mean anything now. You can be charged by looking at a woman the wrong way, and I'm not kidding. Last time I was on a train there were these posters everywhere intimidating the public to this fact. I don't know who would ever want to "assault" Sue Grey, which is obviously the person who has mandated this move. Nonsense , every Criminal Offence in the UK has a legal definition to define what constitutes a Criminal Offence in different categories in allegations of Rape " A person (A) commits an offence if— (a)he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis, (b)B does not consent to the penetration, and (c)A does not reasonably believe that B consents. (2)Whether a belief is reasonable is to be determined having regard to all the circumstances, including any steps A has taken to ascertain whether B consents. " Other sexual offences can be inappropriate touching of a persons private parts, especially when it comes to children under the age of consent which is 16 years of age, they cannot legally consent to any sexual activity As for looking at someone LOB You sound like chatGPT and nonsense is what you produce. Check the posters if you come across them. They were all over the stations. |
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Post by Handyman on Sept 21, 2024 0:30:15 GMT
Like it or not Rapists can be and are from different nationalities, yes we know now that Police, Social Services, and Child Welfare Officers said nothing because they were afraid of being accused of Racism back then Rape has been a fact of life since man walked upright, in every society. However, type 1 (the most serious) CSE offences (Child sexual exploitation) in 21st century UK falls within the explicit domain of so called 'grooming gangs' of Pakistani, or Pakistani heritage. This is a cancer that has been overlooked for fear of causing offence, I could scream with frustration. I agree 100% |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 21, 2024 0:32:48 GMT
I agree it has happened too often but not just with Asian Men , Saville was not charged because parents refused to allow their kids to give evidence in a Court That is rubbish, and you probably know it. However, as bad as Savile's crimes were, and he was a monster, they pale into insignificance when compared to thousands of children who since 1976 (First reported Pakistani grooming gang case) have been victims of a crime that has been consistently played down by the establishment. I still think Saville could have been innocent. I've not heard all the witnesses, but watched an hour long documentary of these people and none convinced me he did anything bad, rather it was interpreted after the event to be bad seeing it in a modern light. For example one of his acts which was popular with children was role playing and fantasy. He was playing with them, but anything sexual was in the context of say perhaps what you would get on Walt Disney or similar, like the fairy princess and all of that. His interaction with children also involved touching them and kissing them on the hand, whereupon they would smile with delight. He was like a father figure, but my theory is it could be the fucked up feminist mind, thinking every time a man touches a child it means he is a paedophile. It's a vile think though think, but hardcore feminists basically believe every man is a rapist. The TV documentary tried to jazz it up with the creepy mood music ,but it does not fool me. There really was not one proper smoking gun to exhibit. If there were, you could have bet they would have had it on. |
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Post by Handyman on Sept 21, 2024 0:32:59 GMT
Nonsense , every Criminal Offence in the UK has a legal definition to define what constitutes a Criminal Offence in different categories in allegations of Rape " A person (A) commits an offence if— (a)he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis, (b)B does not consent to the penetration, and (c)A does not reasonably believe that B consents. (2)Whether a belief is reasonable is to be determined having regard to all the circumstances, including any steps A has taken to ascertain whether B consents. " Other sexual offences can be inappropriate touching of a persons private parts, especially when it comes to children under the age of consent which is 16 years of age, they cannot legally consent to any sexual activity As for looking at someone LOB You sound like chatGPT and nonsense is what you produce. Check the posters if you come across them. They were all over the stations. As when and if I understand what you mean, I will get back to you it may take a long time I only understand English not rubbish |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 21, 2024 0:41:56 GMT
I still think Saville could have been innocent... In that case, you're a pillock. |
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Post by Handyman on Sept 21, 2024 0:42:26 GMT
That is rubbish, and you probably know it. However, as bad as Savile's crimes were, and he was a monster, they pale into insignificance when compared to thousands of children who since 1976 (First reported Pakistani grooming gang case) have been victims of a crime that has been consistently played down by the establishment. I still think Saville could have been innocent. I've not heard all the witnesses, but watched an hour long documentary of these people and none convinced me he did anything bad, rather it was interpreted after the event to be bad seeing it in a modern light. For example one of his acts which was popular with children was role playing and fantasy. He was playing with them, but anything sexual was in the context of say perhaps what you would get on Walt Disney or similar, like the fairy princess and all of that. His interaction with children also involved touching them and kissing them on the hand, whereupon they would smile with delight. He was like a father figure, but my theory is it could be the fucked up feminist mind, thinking every time a man touches a child it means he is a paedophile. It's a vile think though think, but hardcore feminists basically believe every man is a rapist. The TV documentary tried to jazz it up with the creepy mood music ,but it does not fool me. There really was not one proper smoking gun to exhibit. If there were, you could have bet they would have had it on. Legally he was innocent because he had never been arrested or charged or prosecuted before he died, had any of his alleged victims had agreed to give evidence against him he would have been put on trial and probably found guilty As for the rest of your ramblings LOB |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 21, 2024 1:19:13 GMT
I still think Saville could have been innocent. I've not heard all the witnesses, but watched an hour long documentary of these people and none convinced me he did anything bad, rather it was interpreted after the event to be bad seeing it in a modern light. For example one of his acts which was popular with children was role playing and fantasy. He was playing with them, but anything sexual was in the context of say perhaps what you would get on Walt Disney or similar, like the fairy princess and all of that. His interaction with children also involved touching them and kissing them on the hand, whereupon they would smile with delight. He was like a father figure, but my theory is it could be the fucked up feminist mind, thinking every time a man touches a child it means he is a paedophile. It's a vile think though think, but hardcore feminists basically believe every man is a rapist. The TV documentary tried to jazz it up with the creepy mood music ,but it does not fool me. There really was not one proper smoking gun to exhibit. If there were, you could have bet they would have had it on. Legally he was innocent because he had never been arrested or charged or prosecuted before he died, had any of his alleged victims had agreed to give evidence against him he would have been put on trial and probably found guilty As for the rest of your ramblings LOB They might have made the allegations up and if they had gone to court they could have got into serious trouble for perverting the course of justice, which is often a prisonable offence. The witnesses included some juvenile delinquents who were in this special school for ones with criminal tendencies. Lying was a way of life for these kids. I suspect when talking to their lawyer they got cold feet, or even before that. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 21, 2024 1:21:17 GMT
I still think Saville could have been innocent... In that case, you're a pillock. Of course.
These sexual allegations really bring out the high and mighty in people.
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Post by Handyman on Sept 21, 2024 10:04:44 GMT
Legally he was innocent because he had never been arrested or charged or prosecuted before he died, had any of his alleged victims had agreed to give evidence against him he would have been put on trial and probably found guilty As for the rest of your ramblings LOB They might have made the allegations up and if they had gone to court they could have got into serious trouble for perverting the course of justice, which is often a prisonable offence. The witnesses included some juvenile delinquents who were in this special school for ones with criminal tendencies. Lying was a way of life for these kids. I suspect when talking to their lawyer they got cold feet, or even before that. Many men have been charged and held in custody or convicted because an alleged victim has lied to the Police and the Court and yes it often means the alleged victim has been caught lying in Court and is charged with Perverting the Course of justice and sent to prison, as I stated earlier Rape is difficult to prove in Court very often its their word against the alleged rapist. I am probably wasting my time with you and your lack of understanding and knowledge even though its been right across the media for a long time when these men have been tried and found guilty If you are referring to the many young girls children that were raped repeatedly in Rotherham and area many of them were in Care Homes because their parents had basically abandoned them little or no parental control whatsoever, easy pickings for the odious men that plied them with drink and drugs and raped them multiple times. The Police did not believe the girls back then or chose not to believe them and like the Social Workers Child Welfare Workers etc all were frightened of being branded racists if they went public as the men involved were Asian men, it took a local MP that knew what had been happening for a long time to stand up in the House of Commons and make it public. Now the local Police have done their job as the many victims now adults have stood up and told the Police what happened to them in great detail, the CPS have then quite rightly put these odious men on trial and have secured convictions |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 21, 2024 10:22:44 GMT
That is rubbish, and you probably know it. However, as bad as Savile's crimes were, and he was a monster, they pale into insignificance when compared to thousands of children who since 1976 (First reported Pakistani grooming gang case) have been victims of a crime that has been consistently played down by the establishment. I still think Saville could have been innocent. I've not heard all the witnesses, but watched an hour long documentary of these people and none convinced me he did anything bad, rather it was interpreted after the event to be bad seeing it in a modern light. For example one of his acts which was popular with children was role playing and fantasy. He was playing with them, but anything sexual was in the context of say perhaps what you would get on Walt Disney or similar, like the fairy princess and all of that. His interaction with children also involved touching them and kissing them on the hand, whereupon they would smile with delight. He was like a father figure, but my theory is it could be the fucked up feminist mind, thinking every time a man touches a child it means he is a paedophile. It's a vile think though think, but hardcore feminists basically believe every man is a rapist. The TV documentary tried to jazz it up with the creepy mood music ,but it does not fool me. There really was not one proper smoking gun to exhibit. If there were, you could have bet they would have had it on. LOL! 
Idiot.
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