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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Sept 20, 2024 12:37:39 GMT
People make fake rape allegations all the time. It's often becasuse they withdraw consent after the act. Thats is why I stated claimed Baron. The information regarding him and Goldsmith and how he acquired his wealth is far more interesting than a tis with a prossie. He had a lot of money, a potent aphrodisiac, but women need to protect their image. Going with a rockstar looks cool until it is discovered he was a crook. Also there is this thing about you can't libel a dead person and a dead person can not defend a claim, so watch out for revelations conveniently leveled the moment someone dies, as with Saville. He could have been innocent, or it might have been that he would drop a load of other names in it. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 20, 2024 13:52:34 GMT
Thats is why I stated claimed Baron. The information regarding him and Goldsmith and how he acquired his wealth is far more interesting than a tis with a prossie. He had a lot of money, a potent aphrodisiac, but women need to protect their image. Going with a rockstar looks cool until it is discovered he was a crook. Also there is this thing about you can't libel a dead person and a dead person can not defend a claim, so watch out for revelations conveniently leveled the moment someone dies, as with Saville. He could have been innocent, or it might have been that he would drop a load of other names in it. We all know of fayeds shady dealings Baron. But is seems he was also a sexual preditor.......Starmer has a record of getting it wrong when he was head honcho at the CPS. |
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Post by Bentley on Sept 20, 2024 14:04:06 GMT
He was connected to the Goldsmith senior known as Jimmy Goldsmith. I have heard he was a "bagman" for some really serious criminal activity and this is how he became super rich. The bank used to finance the takeover of Harrods was a marked bank, known in the industry for handling dirty money. During the takeover operation the agencies in charge of monitoring the legitimacy of large financial transactions warned Thatcher and advised her to block the deal, but she steadfastly went against all the professional civil service/banking regulator advice given to her, and to this day no one understands why. The truth most likely died with those behind it. You have to be very careful when there are circumstances surrounding the allegation that are far more serious. It one where the three letter agencies are mixed up in it and all sorts of shady dealers. There is an old documentry on Jimmy goldsmith if you want to get some background to what he did, but it doe snot give the whole picture. I don't have the references anymore as I heard about all this some 20 years back and any links are well dead. I'm just giving you what I remember. But that doesent digress from the fact that 5 victims have claimed they were raped by fayed. My niece worked for Harrods before Diana died. She said that he was nonce then. Pretty much was is said now . |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 20, 2024 14:07:23 GMT
But that doesent digress from the fact that 5 victims have claimed they were raped by fayed. My niece worked for Harrods before Diana died. She said that he was nonce then. Pretty much was is said now . My late brother worked at stoke mandiville as a charge nurse he stated the same about saville.. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Sept 20, 2024 14:23:08 GMT
We have to wait until they are dead before people get justice, because the likes of Starmer protects them, Huw Edwards only got caught because he got cocky, (excuse the pun), and even then evaded prison, the likes him without a doubt get away with it because of their high profile status, Katie Price has avoided prison on many occasions, where most of us would be locked up for the same thing.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Sept 20, 2024 14:32:41 GMT
Two tier justice.
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Post by dodgydave on Sept 20, 2024 17:00:23 GMT
To be fair to Starmer, if the police / society turn a blind eye what can he do?
BTW where the fuck are these victims fathers / brothers / husbands / boyfriend? If this was my relative / partner I wouldn't be bothering with the justice system.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Sept 20, 2024 18:50:37 GMT
My niece worked for Harrods before Diana died. She said that he was nonce then. Pretty much was is said now . My late brother worked at stoke mandiville as a charge nurse he stated the same about saville.. Both my brothers worked at Stoke Mandeville. One as a nurse, the other as a porter ... who, on several occasions, was assisted by Saville when a body had to be collected from a ward. Saville would hang around the mortuary waiting for the opportunity to "assist". Once the body had arrived at the mortuary he would stay with it. The next day he could be seen walking around in a "strange state of mind", not responding to people when they greeted him. This brother abruptly packed in the job without giving notice ... after a conversation with a mortuary attendant. The brother who was a nurse had a room in the hospital ... as did Saville. Late at night Saville was in the habit of turning up with a "young-looking" girl, sometimes two, one on each arm, and introducing them to the person on duty at the entrance to the living quarters. |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 20, 2024 19:37:11 GMT
My late brother worked at stoke mandiville as a charge nurse he stated the same about saville.. Both my brothers worked at Stoke Mandeville. One as a nurse, the other as a porter ... who, on several occasions, was assisted by Saville when a body had to be collected from a ward. Saville would hang around the mortuary waiting for the opportunity to "assist". Once the body had arrived at the mortuary he would stay with it. The next day he could be seen walking around in a "strange state of mind", not responding to people when they greeted him. This brother abruptly packed in the job without giving notice ... after a conversation with a mortuary attendant. The brother who was a nurse had a room in the hospital ... as did Saville. Late at night Saville was in the habit of turning up with a "young-looking" girl, sometimes two, one on each arm, and introducing them to the person on duty at the entrance to the living quarters. My btother told me once that saville had his own key to the mortuary and would spend all night in there if there was a new body on the slab. |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Sept 20, 2024 22:07:31 GMT
Both my brothers worked at Stoke Mandeville. One as a nurse, the other as a porter ... who, on several occasions, was assisted by Saville when a body had to be collected from a ward. Saville would hang around the mortuary waiting for the opportunity to "assist". Once the body had arrived at the mortuary he would stay with it. The next day he could be seen walking around in a "strange state of mind", not responding to people when they greeted him. This brother abruptly packed in the job without giving notice ... after a conversation with a mortuary attendant. The brother who was a nurse had a room in the hospital ... as did Saville. Late at night Saville was in the habit of turning up with a "young-looking" girl, sometimes two, one on each arm, and introducing them to the person on duty at the entrance to the living quarters. My btother told me once that saville had his own key to the mortuary and would spend all night in there if there was a new body on the slab. I once read that in Roman times young female bodies were not sent to the morgue for some time ... because of the behaviour of the attendants there. My wife died of a brain tumour ... but was "healthy looking" at the time of her death at the age of 40. I saw her in the morgue a few hours after she'd died. There was a distinct male odour about her ... then the source of the odour appeared ... a young man. The young nurse who took me to the morgue was, judging by her behaviour, aware of what was going on. I didn't say anything ... my wife was dead. She'd "ceased to exist". The antics of these people was of no consequence as far as my beliefs are concerned ... and ..."What can one say?" |
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Post by wapentake on Sept 20, 2024 22:25:08 GMT
Just been watching the news,Labour say they will accept no more clothes but there will be no apology because they had to look the part,what part is that then the three mustgettheirs all for one and all for us.
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Post by Handyman on Sept 20, 2024 22:51:34 GMT
Sexual assault can mean anything now. You can be charged by looking at a woman the wrong way, and I'm not kidding. Last time I was on a train there were these posters everywhere intimidating the public to this fact. I don't know who would ever want to "assault" Sue Grey, which is obviously the person who has mandated this move. Nonsense , every Criminal Offence in the UK has a legal definition to define what constitutes a Criminal Offence in different categories in allegations of Rape " A person (A) commits an offence if— (a)he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis, (b)B does not consent to the penetration, and (c)A does not reasonably believe that B consents. (2)Whether a belief is reasonable is to be determined having regard to all the circumstances, including any steps A has taken to ascertain whether B consents. " Other sexual offences can be inappropriate touching of a persons private parts, especially when it comes to children under the age of consent which is 16 years of age, they cannot legally consent to any sexual activity As for looking at someone LOB |
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Post by Handyman on Sept 20, 2024 23:16:45 GMT
Frayed, The Post Office Horizon debacle, saville, rolf harris, mossie grooming gangs our new pm seemed to have overlooked quiet a few high profile cases when he was in his previous role, let’s hope the neglect doesn’t continue into his new one.......Oh wait a minute........
I warned the Queen that Fayed was a dirty old man, says former Royal security chief: Elizabeth was told Harrods boss was 'abuser of women' - while questions grow over why 2TS failed to charge him when at the CPS
A BBC investigation revealed slew of sexual assault allegations against Al-Fayed
Police were first made aware of accusations against Al-Fayed in the 1990s
2TS has faced questions about the failure to prosecute Al-Fayed
The late Queen was warned that Mohamed Al-Fayed was a 'salacious attacker of women' before Princess Diana's death, it emerged today, as five women accused the former Harrods boss of rape.
As a BBC investigation revealed a slew of sexual assault allegations against the late billionaire, Scotland Yard's former head of royalty protection Dai Davies disclosed that police were first made aware of such accusations against Al-Fayed in the 1990s.
Starmer has always been a arse licker of the famous and wealthy, he let Savile, Harris, and a load more go untouched because he feared the backlash, he's still like that now, the arse wipe accepting gifts, and freebies, allowing his mates to have a key to No. 10 come and go as they please, he's a fucking snob of the highest order, he loves the trappings of being the Prime Minister and all the perks and attention that goes with it, he's completely lost the plot and will be kicked out quicker than we predicted. I have no liking for Politicians in general and certainly no liking for Starmer a former Human Rights Lawyer who represented people who were under threat of being deported and people refused Asylum Status . When he was DPP head of the CPS he did not make day to day decisions of who would be Prosecuted for Criminal Offences or if there was sufficient evidence to charge and put them before a Court of Law, Barristers and Lawyers employed by the CPS made the decisions As for Saville he did not make the decision not to prosecute him, " Reuters was among the fact-checking services to dispute the claim that Starmer was directly involved in failing to prosecute Jimmy Savile, when it gained traction after his election as Labour leader. It was only after the TV presenter’s death in 2011 that it emerged he was one of Britain’s most prolific sex offenders. In 2007 and 2008, Surrey Police had investigated four complaints that Savile had sexually assaulted young girls and he was interviewed under caution. However, no arrest was made nor prosecution brought as the victims were not prepared to support police action.
“The suggestion of a link between the handling of the cases and Starmer is baseless,” said Reuters. While he was head of the CPS, he was not the reviewing lawyer for the case and later commissioned a review into the decision. Alison Levitt QC, who completed the review, was however “critical of how the case had been handled”, said The Telegraph. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Sept 20, 2024 23:26:53 GMT
Nonsense , every Criminal Offence in the UK has a legal definition to define what constitutes a Criminal Offence in different categories in allegations of Rape " A person (A) commits an offence if— (a)he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis, (b)B does not consent to the penetration, and (c)A does not reasonably believe that B consents. (2)Whether a belief is reasonable is to be determined having regard to all the circumstances, including any steps A has taken to ascertain whether B consents. " Other sexual offences can be inappropriate touching of a persons private parts, especially when it comes to children under the age of consent which is 16 years of age, they cannot legally consent to any sexual activity As for looking at someone LOB Unless the victim is a child and the offender is an adult of British Pakistani Muslim heritage. The police have 'apologised', more than once, for ignoring this abhorrent crime. I'd like to say this is an excellent read, but it isn't. It's an absolute travesty of so called justice.  |
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Post by Handyman on Sept 20, 2024 23:32:26 GMT
Nonsense , every Criminal Offence in the UK has a legal definition to define what constitutes a Criminal Offence in different categories in allegations of Rape " A person (A) commits an offence if— (a)he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis, (b)B does not consent to the penetration, and (c)A does not reasonably believe that B consents. (2)Whether a belief is reasonable is to be determined having regard to all the circumstances, including any steps A has taken to ascertain whether B consents. " Other sexual offences can be inappropriate touching of a persons private parts, especially when it comes to children under the age of consent which is 16 years of age, they cannot legally consent to any sexual activity As for looking at someone LOB Unless the victim is a child and the offender is an adult of British Pakistani Muslim heritage. The police have 'apologised', more than once, for ignoring this abhorrent crime. I'd like to say this is an excellent read, but it isn't. It's an absolute travesty of so called justice. I agree it has happened too often but not just with Asian Men , Saville was not charged because parents refused to allow their kids to give evidence in a Court |
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