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Post by jaydee on Dec 15, 2022 9:49:09 GMT
What part of the old bollocks from me is incorrect. Go on tell me. Or are you trying to tell me who i should and should not reply to. Which part of vent your spleen on those who continually post it. Why are you shooting the messenger. See convinced, as I said, so what would be the point? The point is matey. You do not have to decide anything. As you put it. If any thing I have said in the last few exchanges is wrong . Is for you to correct. It is as simple as that. . As you are clearly not going to do so. Let me ask you again. Then lets get the ducks in order. You brought it up. Not me. Third time I have asked. Why are you shooting the messenger? ,
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Post by sheepy on Dec 15, 2022 9:54:16 GMT
See convinced, as I said, so what would be the point? The point is matey. You do not have to decide anything. As you put it. If any thing I have said in the last few exchanges is wrong . Is for you to correct. It is as simple as that. . As you are clearly not going to do so. Let me ask you again. Then lets get the ducks in order. You brought it up. Not me. Third time I have asked. Why are you shooting the messenger? , I haven't I don't see a messenger, you put yourself up as such, I said you mostly believe your own bollox, which is pretty standard for politicians and its followers of fashion. Which I fully expect you to be pedantic about.
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Post by jaydee on Dec 15, 2022 10:01:02 GMT
The point is matey. You do not have to decide anything. As you put it. If any thing I have said in the last few exchanges is wrong . Is for you to correct. It is as simple as that. . As you are clearly not going to do so. Let me ask you again. Then lets get the ducks in order. You brought it up. Not me. Third time I have asked. Why are you shooting the messenger? , I haven't I don't see a messenger, you put yourself up as such, I said you mostly believe your own bollox, which is pretty standard for politicians and its followers of fashion. Which I fully expect you to be pedantic about. Let me make it nice and easy for you. Correct anything that I have said in the last few exchanges. I do not only believe my old bollocks as you put it. I have given you links to prove it. Which I do with your countrymen as they post the same old bollocks at least three times in month. Now you prove those links on a FOI from the government which I posted to you are wrong. Which you are not going to do . So let me ask you again. Why are you shooting the messenger.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 15, 2022 10:12:54 GMT
I haven't I don't see a messenger, you put yourself up as such, I said you mostly believe your own bollox, which is pretty standard for politicians and its followers of fashion. Which I fully expect you to be pedantic about. Let me make it nice and easy for you. Correct anything that I have said in the last few exchanges. I do not only believe my old bollocks as you put it. I have given you links to prove it. Which I do with your countrymen as they post the same old bollocks at least three times in month. Now you prove those links on a FOI from the government which I posted to you are wrong. Which you are not going to do . So let me ask you again. Why are you shooting the messenger. You might not have noticed because you were busy spouting your own brand of bollox but I did in my previous post.
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Post by jaydee on Dec 15, 2022 10:34:28 GMT
Let me make it nice and easy for you. Correct anything that I have said in the last few exchanges. I do not only believe my old bollocks as you put it. I have given you links to prove it. Which I do with your countrymen as they post the same old bollocks at least three times in month. Now you prove those links on a FOI from the government which I posted to you are wrong. Which you are not going to do . So let me ask you again. Why are you shooting the messenger. You might not have noticed because you were busy spouting your own brand of bollox but I did in my previous post. No matey. I am not branding my own brand of bollocks. I am posting you facts, that your own countrymen as I have stated, have had posted at least 4 or so times a month. Now of my brand of bollocks as you put it. Is incorrect. I have already told you. You do not have to decide any thing. Just correct what I said. It is simple as that. So I will ask again. Why are you shooting the messenger, on continual post after post of old bollocks your own countrymen post. You arfe now saying what i posted in the links were wrong. So correct it.
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 15, 2022 10:35:06 GMT
I Never ever respond directly to jd, he goads posters then reports them, which is clearly against forum rules, I think we can safely say this poster is toxic. JD has never reported anyone as far as I know. edit - I just checked the archive of reports and there were no reports from JD. Likewise you can check my archives I have never reported jd even though I am a constant victim of his abuse.
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Post by om15 on Dec 15, 2022 10:42:01 GMT
This clear and well written article outlines the five fiscal options that an independent Scotland faces, one option has been ruled out by the UK Government, the other options have drawbacks. As Jaydee hints, Scotland may not join the euro, however, the alternatives are pretty dreadful and are not options that a sane Government would choose. www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/currency-independent-scotland.pdfThe other attraction of the euro is that it fits nicely into suitcases, a point the First Minister has not overlooked.
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 15, 2022 10:47:13 GMT
This clear and well written article outlines the five fiscal options that an independent Scotland faces, one option has been ruled out by the UK Government, the other options have drawbacks. As Jaydee hints, Scotland may not join the euro, however, the alternatives are pretty dreadful and are not options that a sane Government would choose. www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/currency-independent-scotland.pdfThe other attraction of the euro is that it fits nicely into suitcases, a point the First Minister has not overlooked. When we can actually have a civil conversation on this topic (not meaning you).
It sounds like Scotland think they can have a choice in what currency they want to use when and if they ever became independent , that is not the case.
It has not been agreed they can use the GBP, and the EU have made it clear if Scotland joined they would have to use the Euro, yet again Sturgeon is making things up as she goes along.
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Post by jaydee on Dec 15, 2022 11:04:19 GMT
JD has never reported anyone as far as I know. edit - I just checked the archive of reports and there were no reports from JD. Likewise you can check my archives I have never reported jd even though I am a constant victim of his abuse. Likewise you can check my archives I have never reported jd even though I am a constant victim of his abuse. I could not giber a rats crap, if your report me or not. Second time I have asked. Point to this abuse. I have already posted four links to the contrary As you lied through your teeth I reported poster; Knowing full well you were a liar. You had the audacity to call me toxic, and that I insult you. When you threatened to beat me up. Or has that slipped your mind. I have been dealing with your ilk for seven decades and to put it politely. I would not piss on your ilk if they were on fire. You have the credibility of a diesel driven donut. As you rant the victim. Having been asked a simple question on the drivel you had posted Now you might not respond to me. But I will as sure as hell respond to you. On this or the Scottish forum. I have a better idea.If you want to rant drivel, and be free of a response. Put yourself on the English forum. I never or very seldom go on it. I think I have posted once on it asking a question It has nothing to do with me, or am I the least interested. Westminster and the Scottish forum has every thing to do with me. Now point to this abuse you are on about. You are good at spewing abuse to all asunder. . And matey lets cut to the chase. The reason you do not respond is because you are screwed for a response. Like your £84,000 your Albanians get for not working. It was so stupid, like your denial there is no safe route into the UK for immigrants, it begged a response. You got it. That is why it is called a discussion forum
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 15, 2022 11:05:33 GMT
More abuse ^^
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Post by jaydee on Dec 15, 2022 11:35:52 GMT
When we can actually have a civil conversation on this topic (not meaning you).
It sounds like Scotland think they can have a choice in what currency they want to use when and if they ever became independent , that is not the case.
It has not been agreed they can use the GBP, and the EU have made it clear if Scotland joined they would have to use the Euro, yet again Sturgeon is making things up as she goes along.
Oh dear. Desperation sets in. Allow me a copy and paste. It has not changed since the last time it was posted to OM15. You are incapable of any conversation. You rant. As you are doing now. What you mean is you do not know. I am not in favour of retaining the pound sterling. I have told you the reason dozens of times. And I am sorry if you misunderstood me. I do not appear to be in favour of leaving the UK. I am dedicated to it. Then I do not have to listen to your undiluted continual Jock hating crap. And here is another copy and paste which I posted to you for around the 100th time, several weeks back. . And you still come away with the same drivel. Now you tell me how you translate that I said I favour a Scottish Pound. Translates to your brain, I favour sterling. This is what I posted to you on your drivel.. Why do you have this constant need to make a total prat of yourself. Over hundreds of posts. You have not got one right. Despite having already been told, like now.
Tell me something. What is the currency of the UK. Oh jings its sterling. As I type Scotland does not have a currency. Now in the real world of people. The Scottish central bank is now up and running. With sterling. On separation it will take time to set up the Scottish currency which will be the Scottish pound. Which a couple of post ago you stated she did not know what currency to use. Which translates to you did not know. But then you are always 100% wrong.. In that time frame. England will need time to adjust as the second Scotland does go it's merry way. It will have to borrow at a minimum £100 billion more than it does now. That just to stand still. And why Scotland can no longer afford bankrupt England. Now you tell me what exactly is your problem with both England and Scotland having to adjust to a different relationship. Particularly fiscal. Oh look France, Germany, Spain etc took time to adjust from their national currency to the Euro. But of course Scotland will fall of the world. Get it into the swede. Currency could be called anything. It is the buying power. That counts as energy rich Scotland will have plenty of that..
And I to disagree with the indy fiscal policy as it stands. It stinks of the best interest of the UK. That is the error Mr Salmond made on the last indy ref. I am only interested in the best interest of Scotland. I agree with Professor Richard Murphy and for Scotland to be ready with a Scottish pound. From the first second.. Why would any nationalist want to be tied to English currency?. Then deal with the divorce settlement. That is fluid. Not static as you rant. But that is way past you. Has it now dawned on you that Scotland will not be forced to join the Euro. Your last rant. It may as Sterling is getting worthless. Perhaps you could point to one country who was forced to join the Euro. You have a fascinating hatred of energy rich Scotland and very deluded about bankrupt England. That Scotland can no longer afford. Up next bollocks about a ferry contract. The beauty of CandP and minor time related tweeks.
ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/30755/threadwww.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2020/08/10/currency-is-the-number-one-issue-in-scottish-independence-debate/www.thenational.scot/politics/23027678.richard-murphy-nationalist-want-tied-english-currency/In terms of the EU. And the Euro. I am sure sheepy will now understand what I mean. The same old bollocks. On the same level as the ranted Albanian get £84,000 a year for nothing. And I just posted this less than an hour ago. On this very thread. Which part of European law which states ... It is important to note that the decision as to when, or if, to include a currency in the ERM II - a pre-condition for Eurozone membership - rests entirely with individual EU member states. Translates to you Scotland would have to join the Euro. The UK (and thus Scotland) is not a member of ERM II. If a national government decides not to join the ERM, as it is entitled to do, then by definition it cannot become eligible for membership of the Eurozone. Sweden is an example of an EU member state in this position - despite being an EU member since 1995, Sweden is not in the ERM II. And speaking of misleading and believing the fanny getting fed. See link. The Union is finished. But heh ho why let facts get in the road. Would you care to point to where the EU said Scotland would have to use the Euro www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-esther-mcvey-wrong-about-adopting-euro
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 15, 2022 11:40:51 GMT
and the abuse continues ^^
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Post by jaydee on Dec 15, 2022 11:43:54 GMT
and the abuse continues ^^ And the answer or not answering continues. Or to put it bluntly. making a complete divot of yourself on something you have about as much idea as brain surgery. Apart from that the answer on a question you asked was posted on this very thread less than a hour ago. Not a insult matey. I leave that to you. A fact. Are you going to report me for responding. You said you would if nobody sprung to your defence as you are the victim .
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Post by Steve on Dec 15, 2022 11:45:26 GMT
and the abuse continues ^^ You reckon? What words are abusive?
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 15, 2022 11:51:56 GMT
and the abuse continues ^^ You reckon? What words are abusive? Why don't you look back, do I ever quote jd in any of my posts?
I refer to jd because he is constantly quoting my posts, it is abuse of a poster when they continue to quote your posts when they have been 'clearly' told to stop quoting me as I have no intentions of directly responding to them.
jd appears to be rattled that I will not quote and respond directly to him, that is why he is subjecting me a torrent of abuse.
Like I am quoting you now and responding, I refuse to quote jd and respond.
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