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Post by buccaneer on Aug 30, 2024 22:39:33 GMT
Starmer like Rayner in Ibiza trying to show they can 'connect' with people.
Taxing those same people to the hilt along with zealous net green policies demonstrates the opposite.
Their nebulous moments doing this or that with the hope it connects won't be their undoing, their stifling identity politics, cancel culture, heavy regulation, high tax, low growth ideology will be their undoing.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 31, 2024 6:32:27 GMT
Maggie was the best female PM we've ever had. And, if they'd listened to her, the Maastricht Rebellion wouldn't have happened and you'd have been a lot happier. Well, if her style of 'leadership' and the destruction of the working class in the UK and the creation of the housing fustercluck we see today are attributes of greatness, fair enough But given the only other female prime ministers we've had are Theresa May and Liz Truss (who doesn't really count because the parliamentary party and that bloody Indian's city pals screwed her over from day one) it doesn't really say much. She opposed the Maastricht Treaty, Howe and Heseltine stabbed her in the back to get Maastricht signed. If they'd listened to her the EU might not have been created.
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Post by see2 on Aug 31, 2024 6:32:58 GMT
Starmer like Rayner in Ibiza trying to show they can 'connect' with people. Taxing those same people to the hilt along with zealous net green policies demonstrates the opposite. Their nebulous moments doing this or that with the hope it connects won't be their undoing, their stifling identity politics, cancel culture, heavy regulation, high tax, low growth ideology will be their undoing. That's your distorted version of Labour ideology, it says a lot about yourself and little or nothing about Labour. You are clearly so biased and opinionated (not very Christian) that you have rejected Labour long before you can make any informed comment on the outcome of four or five years of Labour administration.
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Post by see2 on Aug 31, 2024 6:35:27 GMT
Well, if her style of 'leadership' and the destruction of the working class in the UK and the creation of the housing fustercluck we see today are attributes of greatness, fair enough But given the only other female prime ministers we've had are Theresa May and Liz Truss (who doesn't really count because the parliamentary party and that bloody Indian's city pals screwed her over from day one) it doesn't really say much. She opposed the Maastricht Treaty, Howe and Heseltine stabbed her in the back to get Maastricht signed. If they'd listened to her the EU might not have been created.And that would have been a massive negative. A lost opportunity.
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Post by see2 on Aug 31, 2024 6:39:29 GMT
Man moves picture in his house. Half this forum lose their shit over it. Happy Friday everyone. Exactly. Perhaps there weren't enough dinghies today. Starmer the Thatcher Snatcher. That's an improvement on Thatcher snatching milk from kids
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 31, 2024 6:58:06 GMT
Well, if her style of 'leadership' and the destruction of the working class in the UK and the creation of the housing fustercluck we see today are attributes of greatness, fair enough But given the only other female prime ministers we've had are Theresa May and Liz Truss (who doesn't really count because the parliamentary party and that bloody Indian's city pals screwed her over from day one) it doesn't really say much. She opposed the Maastricht Treaty, Howe and Heseltine stabbed her in the back to get Maastricht signed. If they'd listened to her the EU might not have been created. Yes I know, and I agree, if she had got her way the EU would not have then become the behemoth it did and we would almost certainly still be part of the trading bloc it was on her watch. It's the rest of what she did that's the problem
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Post by Vinny on Aug 31, 2024 7:01:16 GMT
I said she was the greatest female PM we ever had. She was not the greatest PM ever. But, she did some good.
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 31, 2024 8:11:00 GMT
Starmer like Rayner in Ibiza trying to show they can 'connect' with people. Taxing those same people to the hilt along with zealous net green policies demonstrates the opposite. Their nebulous moments doing this or that with the hope it connects won't be their undoing, their stifling identity politics, cancel culture, heavy regulation, high tax, low growth ideology will be their undoing. That's your distorted version of Labour ideology, it says a lot about yourself and little or nothing about Labour. You are clearly so biased and opinionated (not very Christian) that you have rejected Labour long before you can make any informed comment on the outcome of four or five years of Labour administration. You silly pillock. You expect me to wait four to five years to see what this two tier government are doing before I express my opinion about them? They've shown the road we're heading down after 50 days in office you silly billy. Therefore, I WILL let it be known what my opinion about them is.
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Post by Handyman on Aug 31, 2024 8:27:37 GMT
Exactly. Perhaps there weren't enough dinghies today. Starmer the Thatcher Snatcher. That's an improvement on Thatcher snatching milk from kids A slur a lie IMHO As the nation looks back at the legacy of the Thatcher era, FactCheck separates fact from fiction. Thatcher the milk snatcher The nickname was coined by Labour in opposition and the press after the government abolished free school milk for over-sevens in 1970 when Margaret Thatcher was education secretary. But according to her memoirs and archives, Lady Thatcher herself had argued in cabinet against getting rid of free milk altogether. It was a policy driven by the Treasury, first under Iain Macleod, then Anthony Barber. So in Barber’s first budget of October 1970, the policy was limited to children above the age of seven, and special schools and children with medical needs were excluded.
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 31, 2024 8:35:05 GMT
Starmer like Rayner in Ibiza trying to show they can 'connect' with people. Taxing those same people to the hilt along with zealous net green policies demonstrates the opposite. Their nebulous moments doing this or that with the hope it connects won't be their undoing, their stifling identity politics, cancel culture, heavy regulation, high tax, low growth ideology will be their undoing. The expat pensioners living abroad will be patting Rayner on the back, they get to keep their winter fuel allowance, they use their allowance to keep themselves cool.
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Post by piglet on Aug 31, 2024 9:31:03 GMT
See sums up the difference, that " damage" was done. Dragging Britain into the next century was DAMAGE. Without Thatcher the miners would still be there digging coal that no one wanted to buy. With see 2 thinking, happy families was better, while all goes to pot, never mind reforms of all kinds, id have out lawed unions etc, not limited them.
You cant pay yourself more than the country makes.
No...no...see2 you cant. Your not alone, the tories are as poisonous.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 31, 2024 15:17:06 GMT
Thatcher was a hard right (so called 'stocking footed fascist') who did extreme social and financial damage to the UK. Are you aware of the damage she did? You claim Thatcher was hard right! LOL, oh my aching sides. I claim you're a pillock, and as ever you provide the evidence for which many thanks.
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 1, 2024 6:11:39 GMT
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Post by ProVeritas on Sept 1, 2024 11:14:40 GMT
If you are not a dyed in the wool Tory with latent dominatrix fetishes why would you want a picture of Thatcher on the wall?
All The Best
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Post by see2 on Sept 1, 2024 11:42:46 GMT
I said she was the greatest female PM we ever had. She was not the greatest PM ever. But, she did some good. And a lot of social and financial damage.
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