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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 30, 2024 19:01:13 GMT
Man moves picture in his house. Half this forum lose their shit over it. Happy Friday everyone. But it's NOT 'his' house is it It is a government building, and he is pissing about with state property
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Aug 30, 2024 19:15:53 GMT
During Thatcher's "reign" a journalist wrote: "It never ceases to amaze me that people, up and down the country, rich and poor, dote on Margaret Thatcher ... that stern hockey mistress".
Someone else said: "When you have a problem she talks to you as if your dog's just died".
A TV news comment about a senior Tory politician (male) who had just had a meeting with her: "He looks as if he's had his bottom smacked".
I knew someone who worked with Thatcher before she became a politician. She would ask people to come to her office. Here she would sit behind her desk .. with the person sitting in front of her. She'd look at them ... then stand up, come round the desk and do a "menace" trip on those she wished to "control" ... facial expressions, hostile eyes, gestures, tone of voice.
Tony Blair said he admired Thatcher. Someone said about him: "He's a very good actor. No one (meaning the general public outside of politics, and his immediate circle) knows what he's really like."
I was in a charity shop when the news came on the radio that she was dead. I said: "Ah! The witch is dead!" Everybody present broke out in smiles.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 30, 2024 19:17:25 GMT
Sir Keir Starmer has had a portrait of Margaret Thatcher removed from No 10 Downing Street. The Prime Minister found the artwork “unsettling” and asked for it to be taken down. The portrait of Baroness Thatcher was commissioned by Labour prime minister Gordon Brown and unveiled to the Iron Lady at a private reception in 2009. Painted by Richard Stone, one of Britain’s leading portrait artists, it was intended for permanent display in Downing Street. www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/08/29/starmer-removes-portrait-margaret-thatcher-downing-street/This should put to rest anyone's doubts about comrade Starmers political beliefs. Whether you agreed with her is irrelevant, Baroness Thatcher was not only the UK's first female prime minister, she was the longest serving prime minister of the 21st century. And comrade Starmer has removed her portrait from 10 Downing Street because he finds it “unsettling”. I imagine he will have it replaced with a portrait of George Floyd. 20th century. But yes. Agreed. Hopefully it won't be too long before Starmer is removed from 10 Downing Street. He's useless.
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Post by Handyman on Aug 30, 2024 19:41:00 GMT
What everyone seems to be missing is that Thatcher was a leader. An actual leader. Not a dictator. Not a sycophant. Not a populist. A leader. Power exercised without the exhibition of leadership is dictatorship and is not respected. Leadership is doing the right thing even if it's not popular. And taking your people with you. Anyone who understands this will know exactly what I'm talking about. Anyone else is talking out of their arse. What you seem to be missing is that as the current occupant of No 10 Starmer can decorate it how he pleases. Imagine if it was him and his government trying to tell you what pictures you could and couldn't have hanging up in your house. He like all previous PM's can only redecorate the living quarters the Flat allocated to him in No10, the rest of the building no not allowed,
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 30, 2024 20:10:16 GMT
I'm sorry that this has gone over your head old chap, my point is that Raynor is a ghastly under class old bag and that you appear to support her and her equally distasteful incompetents, if you don't you only have to say. So you support people because of their class? Still don't know why you made this personal. When you say do I "support" her, you'll have to clarify in what sense? She is going to be responsible for workers rights. I'm happy to wait and see what she does.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 30, 2024 20:36:16 GMT
I didn’t like Thatcher and remember the old joke when she was made a baroness that someone said it’s a pity her father wasn’t barren,I feel much the same about the toolmaker.
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Post by Vinny on Aug 30, 2024 20:36:48 GMT
Maggie was the best female PM we've ever had. And, if they'd listened to her, the Maastricht Rebellion wouldn't have happened and you'd have been a lot happier.
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Post by Ripley on Aug 30, 2024 21:01:21 GMT
It's reminiscent of Obama removing Churchill's bust from the Oval Office, only to have Trump reinstate it. How so, Dan? Churchill was not a prior US president.
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Post by Handyman on Aug 30, 2024 21:01:57 GMT
IMO
She was the best PM we have ever had since Churchill,
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 30, 2024 21:32:01 GMT
IMO She was the best PM we have ever had since Churchill, Well tbh there was not much competition - I suppose Supermac might be a candidate but other than that...
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Aug 30, 2024 22:04:49 GMT
IMO She was the best PM we have ever had since Churchill, A male member of her first Cabinet was alleged to have said to said that he was "Not going to be bossed around by a woman". This became known to Thatcher ... her response was as follows: At a Cabinet meeting soup is served. The waitress "accidentally" tipped the soup into the guy's lap. Thatcher reacted to this by "consoling" the waitress ... because it was "just an accident". She got up from her seat and acted as if she really concerned about the poor woman's welfare. Eventually however, the men ganged up on her and she had a good cry about it.
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 30, 2024 22:08:27 GMT
Maggie was the best female PM we've ever had. And, if they'd listened to her, the Maastricht Rebellion wouldn't have happened and you'd have been a lot happier. Blimey. This has made me think. Quite possibly. I hated her, but you have to admire her. But the competition is May who was totally undermined by her own party, and Truss, who was quite frankly, well...
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Post by Bentley on Aug 30, 2024 22:13:27 GMT
I was a member of one of the most militant unions in the country and saw his they operated in London , including Fleet Street . I knew that it couldn’t go on and I often wondered how it would end . She answered my question .
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 30, 2024 22:18:31 GMT
Maggie was the best female PM we've ever had. And, if they'd listened to her, the Maastricht Rebellion wouldn't have happened and you'd have been a lot happier. Well, if her style of 'leadership' and the destruction of the working class in the UK and the creation of the housing fustercluck we see today are attributes of greatness, fair enough But given the only other female prime ministers we've had are Theresa May and Liz Truss (who doesn't really count because the parliamentary party and that bloody Indian's city pals screwed her over from day one) it doesn't really say much.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 30, 2024 22:26:58 GMT
Her master plan of making everyone wage slaves through the burden of mortgages was a masterstroke . I remember the times when there was a call for industrial action . The blokes in council houses were all for it . The ones with mortgages, especially ones recently taken out were not so much . Anyone who bought their council houses in the cheap are not entitled to criticise Thatcher . You know who are and you were complicit in her actions.
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