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Post by Dogburger on Aug 29, 2024 15:06:38 GMT
Ref cancer care - I listened to Kwasi Kwarteng talking about this on GB News yesterday, and he flatly denied there was any truth in the rumours/stories about Truss planning to cut NHS cancer care. He said, and I agree with him, it would be political suicide for any politician to even suggest cutting NHS cancer care. Truss never had a chance , Team Sunak was after her from day one and she didn't have the support of her own MP's who were Sunak supporters . The conservative members put that right at the election ,unfortunately we are all paying the price for that under Starmer |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 29, 2024 15:18:44 GMT
Ref cancer care - I listened to Kwasi Kwarteng talking about this on GB News yesterday, and he flatly denied there was any truth in the rumours/stories about Truss planning to cut NHS cancer care. He said, and I agree with him, it would be political suicide for any politician to even suggest cutting NHS cancer care. Truss never had a chance , Team Sunak was after her from day one and she didn't have the support of her own MP's who were Sunak supporters . The conservative members put that right at the election ,unfortunately we are all paying the price for that under Starmer I couldn't agree more, I was always of the opinion that she wasn't given a chance for the very reasons you mention, the men in grey suits wanted Sunak. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 29, 2024 16:17:28 GMT
The Truss cancer story has been debunked by the guy that wrote the book - fake news from the Indy and Guardian.
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Post by ratcliff on Aug 29, 2024 16:30:19 GMT
Ref cancer care - I listened to Kwasi Kwarteng talking about this on GB News yesterday, and he flatly denied there was any truth in the rumours/stories about Truss planning to cut NHS cancer care. He said, and I agree with him, it would be political suicide for any politician to even suggest cutting NHS cancer care. Don't know about political suicide to suggest it - I doubt they'd even get as far reaching for the water jug before it was laced with arsenic |
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Post by ratcliff on Aug 29, 2024 16:31:06 GMT
There's only one poll that counts though right? Well that depends. For sure there's only one poll that puts a new prime minister into number 10, but if he wants to stay there he cant afford to be universally unpopular for long. He may have a large commons majority but if he loses the confidence of his own backbenchers as well as the electorate, he'll be out. Ant the ginger union patsy in |
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Post by ratcliff on Aug 29, 2024 16:33:23 GMT
The Truss cancer story has been debunked by the guy that wrote the book - fake news from the Indy and Guardian. Standard lefty scaremongering and appealing to their gullible lefty readership who drink in every word they publish without question |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 29, 2024 16:53:13 GMT
Liz Truss once ate a lefties hamster.
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 29, 2024 22:40:17 GMT
So with less than two months into a Labour government, some polls indicate falling support for the governing party, and theres another 58 months to go before the next general election.
Interesting data from YouGov done mid August shows that allthough Labour won the election on 34% of the popular vote compared to 24% for the Conservatives, if you give voters only 2 choices (Labour or Conservative), Labour come out with 61% and the Tories on 39%.
I reckon that the first year of this government is when the tough and unpopular choices will be made, budget decisions made in 2024 will take effect in April 2025 and begin to produce results by April 2026.
If Keir Starmer fixes the hole in Britains finances, which he seems to be very serious about doing, and if his plans for growth work, the second half of Labours term will bear fruit.
We have had 14 years of NOTHING, only misery, piss poor growth, austerity, failing public services, the NHS on its knees, falling living standards and most people worse off. I am willing to see if Starmer can do better in 5 years than what the Tories did in 14 years.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 29, 2024 22:43:06 GMT
“The first year of this government is when the tough and unpopular choices will be made. “
The rest of the term will be where the chickens come home to roost.
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Post by witchfinder on Aug 29, 2024 23:00:08 GMT
2010 - The Tories only just managed to scrape into government with help from the Lib Dems, but then they slashed and burnt all public services, cuts .. cuts .. cuts, austerity, the NHS fast deteriorated ( as always happens under the Tories ).
But yet strangely enough, the Conservatives still won the 2015 general election
So unpopular government choices do not necessarily mean election defeat, if Starmer pulls this off .. repairing the hole in the budget, then investing and improving our public services, especially the NHS, then Tories will not have a chance of government until 2034 at the earliest.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 30, 2024 0:05:25 GMT
So with less than two months into a Labour government, some polls indicate falling support for the governing party, and theres another 58 months to go before the next general election. Interesting data from YouGov done mid August shows that allthough Labour won the election on 34% of the popular vote compared to 24% for the Conservatives, if you give voters only 2 choices (Labour or Conservative), Labour come out with 61% and the Tories on 39%. I reckon that the first year of this government is when the tough and unpopular choices will be made, budget decisions made in 2024 will take effect in April 2025 and begin to produce results by April 2026. If Keir Starmer fixes the hole in Britains finances, which he seems to be very serious about doing, and if his plans for growth work, the second half of Labours term will bear fruit. We have had 14 years of NOTHING, only misery, piss poor growth, austerity, failing public services, the NHS on its knees, falling living standards and most people worse off. I am willing to see if Starmer can do better in 5 years than what the Tories did in 14 years. Labour did indeed win the election, with 34% of the vote, and it worth remembering that in 2019 Corbyn lost with 40% of the vote. Which means marxist Corbyn was more popular than Starmer. Out of the frying pan, whatever. Most of us are going to live to regret this Starmer hard left socialist government and over the next couple of years we will see increasing measures put in place to restrict peoples freedoms. Starmer has already publicly said he intends to come down hard on the 'far right'. But as far as comrade Starmer is concerned the 'far right' are no longer fascists or nazis, the 'far right' is any white English person who doesn't agree with him. Trust me, there's trouble ahead. |
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Post by see2 on Aug 30, 2024 9:59:09 GMT
Hmm, Rightists throwing shit at Labour has been the norm for generations, I wouldn't expect anything different today. LOL honestly you're a laugh. Do you really think Labour voters voted for this? Even though Starmer and his poxy socialist government are tanking in the polls, you havent seen anything yet. Just wait until October when Reeves increases various taxes, including fuel duty on petrol & diesel, and after the winter fuel payment was scrapped the cost of gas and electricity is also due to increase in October, just as winter starts. You think this government are unpopular now? LOL, you aint seen nothing yet. Give it a couple of months. I am fully aware of the damage done by dishonest and bigoted Rightist propaganda, I witnessed it in the latter days of New Labour. Such propaganda has always been a major weapon in the Conservative Armory. Its just more shite from the Right, perhaps throwing it makes them feel better LOL |
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Post by see2 on Aug 30, 2024 10:00:36 GMT
The Truss cancer story has been debunked by the guy that wrote the book - fake news from the Indy and Guardian. What book? |
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Post by see2 on Aug 30, 2024 10:03:49 GMT
No, I'm a realist, I expect the government to be unpopular in its early years as they take the hard decisions to make some sense of the shit left behind by the Tories. We will see what we see and hopefully your Crystal Ball will turn out to be as thick as the biased nonsense that exists between your ears. If you cant see trouble ahead you're a pillock. Get a new Crystal Ball, all the shit you post suggests you need one. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 30, 2024 10:50:42 GMT
The Truss cancer story has been debunked by the guy that wrote the book - fake news from the Indy and Guardian. What book? The book that started the story. |
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