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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 29, 2024 18:57:13 GMT
Another victim of the Carnival fighting for his life Achef who worked at a Michelin-star restaurant under Gordon Ramsay is fighting for his life after being attacked during Notting Hill Carnival. Mussie Imnetu, 41, is in critical condition in hospital after he was discovered unconscious with a head injury on Queensway, west London, on Monday night. He was described as a “well travelled chef” who had worked under Ramsay, Alain Ducasse and Marcus Wareing. A 31-year-old man from Newham has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and remains in custody, the Metropolitan Police said as it appealed for witnesses. The woman who was stabbed in the Groin may have to have her leg amputated. Terrible. And Khan the incompetent says London is a safe city. Incredible. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 29, 2024 19:00:48 GMT
Another victim of the Carnival fighting for his life Achef who worked at a Michelin-star restaurant under Gordon Ramsay is fighting for his life after being attacked during Notting Hill Carnival. Mussie Imnetu, 41, is in critical condition in hospital after he was discovered unconscious with a head injury on Queensway, west London, on Monday night. He was described as a “well travelled chef” who had worked under Ramsay, Alain Ducasse and Marcus Wareing. A 31-year-old man from Newham has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and remains in custody, the Metropolitan Police said as it appealed for witnesses. The woman who was stabbed in the Groin may have to have her leg amputated. Terrible. And Khan the incompetent says London is a safe city. Incredible. It’s the far far far far right white people that’s the problem innit. |
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Post by bancroft on Aug 29, 2024 19:00:52 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 29, 2024 19:10:11 GMT
Can you imagine that situation if it was white football fans? Or as the clip said, a St Georges day parade. On these occasions policing is quite different.... ...yet the 'authorities' say we don't have two tier policing. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 29, 2024 19:20:30 GMT
You have yet to give me any examples of ethnic culture. Ethnicity is based on shared identity based on culture, language, common ancestry, and religion. Some examples of ethnicity include Middle Eastern, Hispanic, Irish, Native American, Jewish, and Pacific Islander. I would add Jamaican, Scottish, . www.verywellmind.com/difference-between-race-and-ethnicity-5074205Culture the ideas, customs, and social behaviour of a particular people or society. "African-Caribbean culture" Do you deny that ethnic groups have ideas, customs and social behaviours that differ ? Do you deny that Middle Eastern Arabs generally differ in ideas , customs and social behaviours than Jamaicans? I don't dispute the existence of culture, I'm simply saying it's an entirely different thing from ethnicity. People are born with an ethnicity they aren't born with a culture. Do you deny that a child born of ethnically Chinese parents but raised in Britain will have a different cultural identity to an ethnically Chinese person born and raised in China? |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 29, 2024 19:25:22 GMT
Ethnicity is based on shared identity based on culture, language, common ancestry, and religion. Some examples of ethnicity include Middle Eastern, Hispanic, Irish, Native American, Jewish, and Pacific Islander. I would add Jamaican, Scottish, . www.verywellmind.com/difference-between-race-and-ethnicity-5074205Culture the ideas, customs, and social behaviour of a particular people or society. "African-Caribbean culture" Do you deny that ethnic groups have ideas, customs and social behaviours that differ ? Do you deny that Middle Eastern Arabs generally differ in ideas , customs and social behaviours than Jamaicans? I don't dispute the existence of culture, I'm simply saying it's an entirely different thing from ethnicity. People are born with an ethnicity they aren't born with a culture. Do you deny that a child born of ethnically Chinese parents but raised in Britain will have a different cultural identity to an ethnically Chinese person born and raised in China? You denied toxic ethnic culture and by doing that you deny ethnic culture . Do you claim that the Jews , Irish and Scot’s do not have a culture based on their ethnicity ? |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 29, 2024 19:29:50 GMT
I don't dispute the existence of culture, I'm simply saying it's an entirely different thing from ethnicity. People are born with an ethnicity they aren't born with a culture. Do you deny that a child born of ethnically Chinese parents but raised in Britain will have a different cultural identity to an ethnically Chinese person born and raised in China? You denied toxic ethnic culture and by doing that you deny ethnic culture . Do you claim that the Jews , Irish and Scot’s do not have a culture based on their ethnicity ? Yes, because of you took an ethnically Irish, Scottish or Jewish baby and raised them in France they would be culturally French. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 29, 2024 19:37:09 GMT
You denied toxic ethnic culture and by doing that you deny ethnic culture . Do you claim that the Jews , Irish and Scot’s do not have a culture based on their ethnicity ? Yes, because of you took an ethnically Irish, Scottish or Jewish baby and raised them in France they would be culturally French. That doesn’t refute the existence of ethnic culture does it ? Do you agree that if you took an ethnically Irish baby and raised it in an ethnically Irish community in France it could be culturally Irish but live in France? |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 29, 2024 19:38:24 GMT
You denied toxic ethnic culture and by doing that you deny ethnic culture . Do you claim that the Jews , Irish and Scot’s do not have a culture based on their ethnicity ? Yes, because of you took an ethnically Irish, Scottish or Jewish baby and raised them in France they would be culturally French. Only if you raised them within French Culture. Too often with multiculturalism the raising of a child is largely in a culture different from the French culture to which they are only partially exposed and often it is denigrated as being unworthy. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 29, 2024 19:38:45 GMT
Yes, because of you took an ethnically Irish, Scottish or Jewish baby and raised them in France they would be culturally French. That doesn’t refute the existence of ethnic culture does it ? Do you agree that if you took an ethnically Irish baby and raised it in an ethnically Irish community in France it could be culturally Irish but live in France? Yes that baby would be culturally Irish because of the culture it was raised in not its ethnicity. An ethnically French baby raised in that community would also be culturally Irish. |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 29, 2024 19:39:39 GMT
Yes, because of you took an ethnically Irish, Scottish or Jewish baby and raised them in France they would be culturally French. Only if you raised them within French Culture. Too often with multiculturalism the raising of a child is largely in a culture different from the French culture to which they are only partially exposed and often it is denigrated as being unworthy. So you agree cultural identity comes from the culture one is raised in and not ethnicity? |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 29, 2024 19:43:22 GMT
That doesn’t refute the existence of ethnic culture does it ? Do you agree that if you took an ethnically Irish baby and raised it in an ethnically Irish community in France it could be culturally Irish but live in France? Yes that baby would be culturally Irish because of the culture it was raised in not its ethnicity. An ethnically French baby raised in that community would also be culturally Irish. It would be culturally Irish because it was raised in an Ethnically Irish community that reflected Irish culture . An ethnically French baby would be French raised in an ethnically Irish community that reflects Irish culture . That example doesn’t refute the existence of ethnic culture . |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 29, 2024 19:48:13 GMT
Yes that baby would be culturally Irish because of the culture it was raised in not its ethnicity. An ethnically French baby raised in that community would also be culturally Irish. It would be culturally Irish because it was raised in an Ethnically Irish community that reflected Irish culture . An ethnically French baby would be French raised in an ethnically Irish community that reflects Irish culture . That example doesn’t refute the existence of ethnic culture . No it would be culturally Irish because, I'm assuming, it would be raised in a culturally Irish community. If the ethnically Irish community it was raised in was culturally French it would be culturally French. An ethnically French baby raised in an Irish culture would still be ethnically French but culturally Irish. You know there are literally millions of examples of people of a different ethnic background to the country they were born and raised in who have the cultural identity of the country they were raised in right? |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 29, 2024 19:58:38 GMT
It would be culturally Irish because it was raised in an Ethnically Irish community that reflected Irish culture . An ethnically French baby would be French raised in an ethnically Irish community that reflects Irish culture . That example doesn’t refute the existence of ethnic culture . No it would be culturally Irish because, I'm assuming, it would be raised in a culturally Irish community. If the ethnically Irish community it was raised in was culturally French it would be culturally French. An ethnically French baby raised in an Irish culture would still be ethnically French but culturally Irish. You know there are literally millions of examples of people of a different ethnic background to the country they were born and raised in who have the cultural identity of the country they were raised in right? No it would be culturally Irish because was raised in an ethnically Irish community that reflects Irish culture . If the community was not Irish it would not reflect Irish culture. Nope.An Egyptian Muslim ( which is what you are getting at) community in the UK reflecting English culture would reflect second / third etc generation Egyptian Muslim migrant culture that reflects an Egyptian Muslim migrant community in the UK . |
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Post by happyhornet3 on Aug 29, 2024 20:04:05 GMT
No it would be culturally Irish because, I'm assuming, it would be raised in a culturally Irish community. If the ethnically Irish community it was raised in was culturally French it would be culturally French. An ethnically French baby raised in an Irish culture would still be ethnically French but culturally Irish. You know there are literally millions of examples of people of a different ethnic background to the country they were born and raised in who have the cultural identity of the country they were raised in right? No it would be culturally Irish because was raised in an ethnically Irish community that reflects Irish culture . If the community was not Irish it would not reflect Irish culture. Nope.An Egyptian Muslim ( which is what you are getting at) community in the UK reflecting English culture would reflect second / third etc generation Egyptian Muslim migrant culture that reflects an Egyptian Muslim migrant community in the UK . Ok, so are you saying if you took an ethnically Irish baby, raised it in Russia to Russian parents, never told them about their Irish heritage and the kid never stepped foot on Irish soil it's whole life that kid would be culturally Irish? |
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