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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 1:05:54 GMT
In fact, as I'm sure you are aware, some of the Bible myth motifs were copied from Greek mythology. It figures though, considering the honesty of a politician and indeed many of their followers. The nitpicking is the way it is done. I've had the same bullshit for years on forums. People just don't get the religion these days. Think you meant to say: By "nitpicking" I assume you mean blowing massive holes though the lies of Christianity. All The Best |
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Post by Rebirth on Aug 13, 2024 2:31:35 GMT
Most political types seem to be anti-Christianity. It figures though, considering the honesty of a politician and indeed many of their followers. The nitpicking is the way it is done. I've had the same bullshit for years on forums. People just don't get the religion these days. I tend to agree that most politicians don't have pure intent. However, I don't think that religion has a monopoly on honesty, truth, integrity or morality, all of which can and do exist outside religion. Good, well-intentioned trustworthy people can be found anywhere. Christianity in an argument sense is a guide that promotes these traits and not necessarily possess them all for themselves. This is why it's about doorways and not beheadings. It follows with some sort of reward, which could be eternal or just for the moment, depending on how you interprete it. I don't think of Christians in the UK as puritans, or anything like that, and Churchism doesn't seem too popular thesedays (who can blame them?). I find many have proven to be highly intelligent people in the field who would laugh at PV's hysterical nonsense. Other cults, like Paganism, believe in magic and spell books, and are probably wasted on shrooms. Not that I care, but as an outsider I do find a lot of the sectarianism rather amusing.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 13, 2024 9:11:25 GMT
If you want to find paedophiles then you look for places where there are children.
Paedophilia was never part of Christian doctrine but paedophiles hid within the Catholic Church .
Just as paedophile hid in the BBC,Scouts, schools, and sports clubs.
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 13:31:05 GMT
I find many have proven to be highly intelligent people in the field who would laugh at PV's hysterical nonsense. Hysterical Nonsense? Everything I have said is based on fact. You seek to ridicule it because you know that can not counter those facts. It demonstrates two things: 1) A lack of intellectual capacity. 2) A lack of genuine faith. Other cults, like Paganism, believe in magic and spell books, and are probably wasted on shrooms. Not that I care, but as an outsider I do find a lot of the sectarianism rather amusing. Other religions, like Paganism, Buddhism, Shintoism, Native American Animism, etc tend not be violently proselyting in the way that the three monotheistic Judaic religions are. You think a Pagan high on shrooms is any different from a Christian flagellant (such as the fanatics of Opus Dei who still practice it today) high on endorphins? All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 13:35:56 GMT
If you want to find paedophiles then you look for places where there are children. Paedophilia was never part of Christian doctrine but paedophiles hid within the Catholic Church . Just as paedophile hid in the BBC,Scouts, schools, and sports clubs. I suggest you look up: Numbers: 31:1-18 Deuteronomy: 20:10-14 Judges: 21:7-11 Exodus: 21:7-10 All are at least very suggestive that Christian theology condones, or at least turns a blind-eye to, paedophilia. Here's a recent Church Of England case: www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2gj77pvwwoRather than sacking such Priest the Church pays them off: Of course, part of the problem here is that all these ancient religions came about at times when it was common practice for girls to be married as soon as they had menstruated. There are socio-economic reasons for this that are not too difficult to grasp; but do make an uncomfortable line of thought for modern sensibilities. IMO this just demonstrates that a morality based on a 2000 year old socio-economic-political model is not fit for today's world. Which is why, again IMO, there should be a complete separation of church and state - including churches receiving economic assistance, direct or indirect, from the state. All The Best |
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 13, 2024 15:11:48 GMT
linkStarmer is providing £30 million to protect the muslim community and their mosques. But it seems that the Jews pay for the protection of their synagogues (from muslims usually) themselves, and the govt don't give money to the Church to protect their churches. (BTW most of the churches in the Middle East have been burnt down - too late to protect them). I don't object to the police protecting a mosque, on an ad hoc basis, if it comes under attack from rioters. But I think that if we're going to be giving money to protect mosques in general (presumably because the Labour govt wants the muslim vote) there should be some quid pro quo. For a start mosques should be open to all (like churches) and we should check them for extremist literature and hate preaching. After the Manchester Arena attack some muslim scholars went to the Didsbury mosque (which the bomber attended) and found extremist literature and an imam calling for "armed jihad in the UK". This was reported to the police but no action was taken despite the fact that it was a clear breach of the laws on incitement. It seems to me that the muslims behave extremely badly in the UK but our police and our govt are so shit scared of them that they spend their time grovelling to them. Something I would like to point out ...
A good few years ago the self righteous prick who heads up the BBC Radio 4 afternoon "all faith" programme and spends most of it telling us all how peaceful the religion of peace is did a two episode special on "the deobandis" which i probably have somewhere having stolen it onto two audio files.
Anyway, this bunch are the equivalent of the saudi thought police, there is no more extreme bunch of fundamentalist islamics going. They're all pro caliphate and admitted to buying up one house in the town south of Wakefield and setting about driving out the white people so their relatives could move in, and now they own the entire ghetto and are proud of it.
But the most amusing (to me) bit was right at the end of the show, when said po-faced apologist had to admit they had to abandon their intended broadcast. Turns out one of their researchers while poking around the mosque found a couple of copies of the now illegal handbook they published telling you how to make an IED (hint, as a molecular biologist with expertise in high energy exothermic reactions who acquired it and read it BEFORE it was proscribed, DON'T follow their advice, well not unless you want to get to the head of the queue to collect your virgins because believe me, following that will send prophets through the roof......) and they also found a load of other literature proclaiming the coming of the caliphate....
And their Imam naturally accused the BBC researcher of planting it.
End Transmission.....
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 13, 2024 15:31:22 GMT
If you want to find paedophiles then you look for places where there are children. Paedophilia was never part of Christian doctrine but paedophiles hid within the Catholic Church . Just as paedophile hid in the BBC,Scouts, schools, and sports clubs. I suggest you look up: Numbers: 31:1-18 Deuteronomy: 20:10-14 Judges: 21:7-11 Exodus: 21:7-10 All are at least very suggestive that Christian theology condones, or at least turns a blind-eye to, paedophilia. All The Best Well of coure this requires that you fail to distingush the whole concept of the new covenant in jesus christ that the christian church and its doctrine is built upon, but then i think we've been here before. Certainly the Jews have a similar problem with all manner of cultural and ethical values from a few millennia before 29AD, but again this is hardly new. |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 15:36:52 GMT
I suggest you look up: Numbers: 31:1-18 Deuteronomy: 20:10-14 Judges: 21:7-11 Exodus: 21:7-10 All are at least very suggestive that Christian theology condones, or at least turns a blind-eye to, paedophilia. All The Best , but then i think we've been here before. Certainly the Jews have a similar problem with all manner of cultural and ethical values from a few millennia before 29AD, but again this is hardly new. So why not expunge the Old Testament from the Bible? All The Best |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2024 15:57:07 GMT
Well of coure this requires that you fail to distingush the whole concept of the new covenant in jesus christ that the christian church and its doctrine is built upon, but then i think we've been here before. Certainly the Jews have a similar problem with all manner of cultural and ethical values from a few millennia before 29AD, but again this is hardly new. So why not expunge the Old Testament from the Bible? All The Best Ha ha. Good luck with that! |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 13, 2024 16:24:04 GMT
If you want to find paedophiles then you look for places where there are children. Paedophilia was never part of Christian doctrine but paedophiles hid within the Catholic Church . Just as paedophile hid in the BBC,Scouts, schools, and sports clubs. I suggest you look up: Numbers: 31:1-18 Deuteronomy: 20:10-14 Judges: 21:7-11 Exodus: 21:7-10 All are at least very suggestive that Christian theology condones, or at least turns a blind-eye to, paedophilia. Here's a recent Church Of England case: www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2gj77pvwwoRather than sacking such Priest the Church pays them off: Of course, part of the problem here is that all these ancient religions came about at times when it was common practice for girls to be married as soon as they had menstruated. There are socio-economic reasons for this that are not too difficult to grasp; but do make an uncomfortable line of thought for modern sensibilities. IMO this just demonstrates that a morality based on a 2000 year old socio-economic-political model is not fit for today's world. Which is why, again IMO, there should be a complete separation of church and state - including churches receiving economic assistance, direct or indirect, from the state. All The Best Are you sure that you have read the Bible ? I can’t see any reference to God saying it’s ok to shag pre pubescent children . I don’t think you can either . Also I don’t accept of the Old Testament as Christian . The Old Testament set the stage for the new covenant. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 13, 2024 16:26:21 GMT
Well of coure this requires that you fail to distingush the whole concept of the new covenant in jesus christ that the christian church and its doctrine is built upon, but then i think we've been here before. Certainly the Jews have a similar problem with all manner of cultural and ethical values from a few millennia before 29AD, but again this is hardly new. So why not expunge the Old Testament from the Bible? All The Best Because it’s the pre cursor to the redemption through Christ . |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 17:02:19 GMT
So why not expunge the Old Testament from the Bible? All The Best Because it’s the pre cursor to the redemption through Christ . Only if you believe the fairy tale of Christianity. Might as well be talking about the Lady Of The Lake offering King Arthur redemption by returning Excalibur to him when his pride had broken it. All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 17:12:58 GMT
I suggest you look up: Numbers: 31:1-18 Deuteronomy: 20:10-14 Judges: 21:7-11 Exodus: 21:7-10 All are at least very suggestive that Christian theology condones, or at least turns a blind-eye to, paedophilia. Here's a recent Church Of England case: www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2gj77pvwwoRather than sacking such Priest the Church pays them off: Of course, part of the problem here is that all these ancient religions came about at times when it was common practice for girls to be married as soon as they had menstruated. There are socio-economic reasons for this that are not too difficult to grasp; but do make an uncomfortable line of thought for modern sensibilities. IMO this just demonstrates that a morality based on a 2000 year old socio-economic-political model is not fit for today's world. Which is why, again IMO, there should be a complete separation of church and state - including churches receiving economic assistance, direct or indirect, from the state. All The Best Are you sure that you have read the Bible ? I can’t see any reference to God saying it’s ok to shag pre pubescent children . Numbers 31:18 Deuteronomy: 20:14 So God has given "the little ones" for his servants to "take unto themselves" There we have it, a god that condones child abuse. Exodus 21:7-10 Exodus condones selling daughters into slavery, and it would be naive in the extreme to think that did not include sexual slavery. But, its all OK because it sets the scene for the "nice Jesus"? What a load of bollocks, the OT is inhumane, immoral and abhorrent - it needs expunging. Especially if any attempt is going to made to suggest the Bible is a foundation of societal morality (I know you have not suggested that). All The Best |
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Post by ProVeritas on Aug 13, 2024 17:14:19 GMT
So why not expunge the Old Testament from the Bible? All The Best Ha ha. Good luck with that! Indeed. Religious fanatics so like to cling to the scriptural excuses for their extreme behaviour. All The Best |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 13, 2024 17:27:19 GMT
Because it’s the pre cursor to the redemption through Christ . Only if you believe the fairy tale of Christianity. Might as well be talking about the Lady Of The Lake offering King Arthur redemption by returning Excalibur to him when his pride had broken it. All The Best That’s just stating the bleeding obvious. |
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