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Post by sandypine on Aug 9, 2024 19:18:07 GMT
The UK wasn't built on Islam. All the best. Does that make any difference?🤔 Yes, very much so. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 9, 2024 19:20:22 GMT
Does that make any difference?🤔 Yes, very much so. Why? |
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Post by Vinny on Aug 9, 2024 19:53:25 GMT
Muslims pay taxes too.
Those who do not riot, who do not bully, who live in peace without causing problems for others deserve protection.
Those who do riot, those who do bully, those who do cause problems for others, and those who are involved in terrorism, actively or supportively, deserve punishment.
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Post by sandypine on Aug 9, 2024 20:14:46 GMT
Because of the construction of laws and cultural norms. Egypt was built on Islam in general terms and the most common medical operation up to the 1920s was the removal of the right hand.. We have been putting eyes out and chopping ears off but the Christian ethos won through until even the death penalty for murder was done away with. In areas based on Islam a death sentence is still often applied and as regards questioning religion Christianity became much more tolerant of heretics. Islam leads to a rather formless society of angry people and even worse inculcates a general feeling of joylessness. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 9, 2024 20:32:25 GMT
Because of the construction of laws and cultural norms. Egypt was built on Islam in general terms and the most common medical operation up to the 1920s was the removal of the right hand.. We have been putting eyes out and chopping ears off but the Christian ethos won through until even the death penalty for murder was done away with. In areas based on Islam a death sentence is still often applied and as regards questioning religion Christianity became much more tolerant of heretics. Islam leads to a rather formless society of angry people and even worse inculcates a general feeling of joylessness. Egypt existed before Islam was the glint in the milkman's eye. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 9, 2024 20:39:40 GMT
Because of the construction of laws and cultural norms. Egypt was built on Islam in general terms and the most common medical operation up to the 1920s was the removal of the right hand.. We have been putting eyes out and chopping ears off but the Christian ethos won through until even the death penalty for murder was done away with. In areas based on Islam a death sentence is still often applied and as regards questioning religion Christianity became much more tolerant of heretics. Islam leads to a rather formless society of angry people and even worse inculcates a general feeling of joylessness. Egypt existed before Islam was the glint in the milkman's eye. As the UK in general terms before Christianity so I am not clear on your point |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 9, 2024 20:44:35 GMT
So the uk had laws before Christianity and Egypt had laws before Islam?
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Post by sandypine on Aug 9, 2024 20:54:17 GMT
So the uk had laws before Christianity and Egypt had laws before Islam? Yes? All countries had laws before anything but we are looking at how society was structured once the main religion came to pass. |
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Post by wassock on Aug 9, 2024 20:57:49 GMT
The UK wasn't built on Islam. All the best. Does that make any difference?🤔 Yes. This is the UK, the UK was built on Christianity whether we like it or not. I was just looking at the value the CofE received off government. I'm not religious and I think it's good news the CofE receives this. |
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Post by wassock on Aug 9, 2024 21:09:59 GMT
Of all documented human wars, only 7% were not religious based. Excluding religion from politics hasn't done mankind any favours. Does you have any evidence to support that claim? That's just another reason to fully separate Church and State. All The Best Yes, The Encyclopedia of Wars books.google.co.uk/books/about/Encyclopedia_of_Wars.html?id=1ghxQgAACAAJ&redir_esc=yIt documents all human conflicts and listed such things as the cause of the conflict, their outcome etc.. An unintentional aspect was, you could then list the wars based on religion, and only 7% were so. I think there's a few thousand listed. Take the two World Wars and the current Russia v Ukraine war, all three not religious based but many millions died. It is what it is, only 7% of human conflict is religious based. Of that 7%, there's some statistic of how many of those where Islamic. |
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Post by wassock on Aug 9, 2024 21:11:22 GMT
The UK wasn't built on Islam. All the best. Your point? Christianity is as much a foreign religion as Islam, it just happened further back in history. You are aware that the UK is so NOT a Christian country that we had to be "converted" twice. My point stands: Religion is a matter of Personal Choice, not a matter of state funding and subsidies. All The Best If you wish to protect some invisible stance/point, good for you. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 9, 2024 21:24:04 GMT
Does that make any difference?🤔 Yes. This is the UK, the UK was built on Christianity whether we like it or not. I was just looking at the value the CofE received off government. I'm not religious and I think it's good news the CofE receives this. So, just to be clear, you're equating money received to ethics? |
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Post by Rebirth on Aug 9, 2024 22:44:52 GMT
Yes. This is the UK, the UK was built on Christianity whether we like it or not. I was just looking at the value the CofE received off government. I'm not religious and I think it's good news the CofE receives this. So, just to be clear, you're equating money received to ethics? I think you're mistaking the fact that he sees Christianity as the long established religion in this country which many of our laws, customs and traditions were based on with some something else. I can understand why, since this is what Starmer believes, which is why he has diametric opposite views based on ethnicity and race as proven by what he supports and doesn't support. You just have to open your eyes to the absolute mind boggling hypocrisy that drives the man, and now the country. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 9, 2024 22:57:41 GMT
So, just to be clear, you're equating money received to ethics? I think you're mistaking the fact that he sees Christianity as the long established religion in this country which many of our laws, customs and traditions were based on with some something else. I can understand why, since this is what Starmer believes, which is why he has diametric opposite views based on ethnicity and race as proven by what he supports and doesn't support. You just have to open your eyes to the absolute mind boggling hypocrisy that drives the man, and now the country. What views based on ethnicity are you on about? |
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Post by Rebirth on Aug 9, 2024 23:14:42 GMT
It is interesting how little the King says about what's going on. It's fair enough that he wants to keep out of politics but he seems very happy to make asinine comments about climate change at every opportunity - and he is meant to be "the defender of faiths". So what does he think about the hard-line mosques that are cropping up all over the UK? Nothing apparently. One can only speculate: www.meforum.org/356/prince-charles-of-arabia |
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